The Pickens Plan: Where Are We One Year Later? [View article]
Fuel cells are not zero CO2. Their operation is, but not generation of hydrogen (most of which comes from natural gas today). The fuel cells are expensive (6 figures is standard for something that could power a car), the storage and transportation of H2 is still problematic. We'd need multiple practical breakthroughs before we could start making a manufacturable car. We can't wait 10-20 years for that to happen. Plus, on an EROEI perspective, it makes more sense to store electricity in a battery than to turn the electricity into hydrogen, transport the hydrogen, put it thru a fuel cell and get back some of the original electricity to power the car. I was once a fuel cell believer, but became educated and realized there are better alternatives.
On Jul 10 09:45 AM Longinvestor wrote: > > Letting cars alone use gasoline and converting semi's and trains > to hydrogen makes more technical sense to me. The little drop in > CO2 emissions with natural gas is not going to get any of my investment > money. I would prefer to use wind and solar power to make hydrogen > & oxygen gases. These stored gases would then run zero CO2 > emission fuel cells 24/7 per the recent MIT invention. > web.mit.edu/newsoffice... >
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Fuel cells are not zero CO2. Their operation is, but not generation of hydrogen (most of which comes from natural gas today). The fuel cells are expensive (6 figures is standard for something that could power a car), the storage and transportation of H2 is still problematic. We'd need multiple practical breakthroughs before we could start making a manufacturable car. We can't wait 10-20 years for that to happen.
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Plus, on an EROEI perspective, it makes more sense to store electricity in a battery than to turn the electricity into hydrogen, transport the hydrogen, put it thru a fuel cell and get back some of the original electricity to power the car.
I was once a fuel cell believer, but became educated and realized there are better alternatives.
On Jul 10 09:45 AM Longinvestor wrote:
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> Letting cars alone use gasoline and converting semi's and trains
> to hydrogen makes more technical sense to me. The little drop in
> CO2 emissions with natural gas is not going to get any of my investment
> money. I would prefer to use wind and solar power to make hydrogen
> & oxygen gases. These stored gases would then run zero CO2
> emission fuel cells 24/7 per the recent MIT invention.
> web.mit.edu/newsoffice...
>