White House Report: GM Volt Is Not Ready for Prime Time [View article]
If a solution won't work unless the older alternative solution's price is raised via taxation then I say that the new solution is a very poor one.
That is what I would expect from an agenda driven government, not from a practical, thinking government.
New ways to do things should offer benefits unavailable with the old way in such quantity as to command a higher price, not because of a government distortion of the pricing system.
On Apr 24 08:57 AM Steven Chu wrote:
> The US only has the production capacity for hamsters - but Asia has > horses. And they are Li-ion horses being sold in massive quantities. > > > The dumbest thing we could do is not stimulate these firms. Of course > they are losing. And that is partially due to poor historical policy > to create incentives for better technology, manufacturing, and cost > reduction. Subsidized gas instead of subsidized EVs and batteries. > > > It will be expensive. But stimulating these companies is necessary. > > > Battery technology and vehicle design must be parallel processes > and must be continuous. We may end up driving GM/Segway PUMAs instead > of sedans, but it won't happen with US batteries if we sit on the > sidelines. > > And remember, half of the battle is getting consumers used to the > idea of using a different type of vehicle - this needs time, momentum, > and marketing. It won't happen unless there are incentives from the > consumer and producer sides, and unless alternatives (combustion > horses) ado not have their carbon mitigation costs priced in. > > $27 billion manufacturer incentives, $7500 consumer subsidy, government > purchase of EV fleets, and gas tax for $3.50 gas. This is the formula > for change. >
Response to Jack Lifton's 'Lithium Batteries: Nothing But Illusion' [View article]
But isn't lead toxic and a danger to the environment? And isn't the acid the same?
On Apr 22 12:58 PM altaman wrote:
> Actually lithium is the wrong approach to motor vehicles because > it is too expensive and highly toxic. Just how is anyone going to > sell the used cars when they require a $5000-10000 battery replacement? > A better approach is the so called advanced lead-acid battery mated > to a large capacitor to buffer and protect the acid cells (developed > in Australia). Its is about 1/3 the cost while being only 1/3 heaver. > That is an extremely worthwhile tradeoff particularly in larger vehicles.
White House Report: GM Volt Is Not Ready for Prime Time [View article]
price is raised via taxation then I say that the new solution is
a very poor one.
That is what I would expect from an agenda driven government,
not from a practical, thinking government.
New ways to do things should offer benefits unavailable
with the old way in such quantity as to command a higher price,
not because of a government distortion of the pricing system.
On Apr 24 08:57 AM Steven Chu wrote:
> The US only has the production capacity for hamsters - but Asia has
> horses. And they are Li-ion horses being sold in massive quantities.
>
>
> The dumbest thing we could do is not stimulate these firms. Of course
> they are losing. And that is partially due to poor historical policy
> to create incentives for better technology, manufacturing, and cost
> reduction. Subsidized gas instead of subsidized EVs and batteries.
>
>
> It will be expensive. But stimulating these companies is necessary.
>
>
> Battery technology and vehicle design must be parallel processes
> and must be continuous. We may end up driving GM/Segway PUMAs instead
> of sedans, but it won't happen with US batteries if we sit on the
> sidelines.
>
> And remember, half of the battle is getting consumers used to the
> idea of using a different type of vehicle - this needs time, momentum,
> and marketing. It won't happen unless there are incentives from the
> consumer and producer sides, and unless alternatives (combustion
> horses) ado not have their carbon mitigation costs priced in.
>
> $27 billion manufacturer incentives, $7500 consumer subsidy, government
> purchase of EV fleets, and gas tax for $3.50 gas. This is the formula
> for change.
>
Response to Jack Lifton's 'Lithium Batteries: Nothing But Illusion' [View article]
And isn't the acid the same?
On Apr 22 12:58 PM altaman wrote:
> Actually lithium is the wrong approach to motor vehicles because
> it is too expensive and highly toxic. Just how is anyone going to
> sell the used cars when they require a $5000-10000 battery replacement?
> A better approach is the so called advanced lead-acid battery mated
> to a large capacitor to buffer and protect the acid cells (developed
> in Australia). Its is about 1/3 the cost while being only 1/3 heaver.
> That is an extremely worthwhile tradeoff particularly in larger vehicles.