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3 Reasons To Be Bullish on Solar Stocks - Cowen
You have no concept of anything about fundamentals or tech rallies. Tech rallies once born tend to have this euphoria which isn't justified by the multiples long term. Even if some of these companies are profitable, their earnings would have to quadruple to have a P/E ratio comprable to other stocks in the universe. Tehre would be good reason to buy a stock with good growth at say 25-50 times earnings, but never at 700 to 800. The fund managers that track "emerging growth" stocks will have to unload these stocks if they can't keep up the pace as they won't meet the fund criteria. If they are finisged their growth then the "value" guys pick them up. Or the dividend guys. I don't see that happening in the near term.. Take SPWR, one of the last ones out there with an absurd P/E: They missed their earnings last quarter and stated that there are "difficulties ahead." They will report on April 17th. I cannot forsee them increasing guidance, given that the job claims came in at 407,000. Retailers will be looking to close stores not invest in building out expensive improvements on leased property. Looking for SPWR to lose 50% by that day.
Forget about a recession. We have been in one for at least two quarters. Hope we don't go into a depression. At the very leastthe economy will get worse than what it is now in the next year to a year and a half.
Solar Stocks Show Signs of Life
As far as China and the article:www.nytimes.com/2008/0...
Yep, I am eight thousand percent sure they follow standard accepted accounting principles for their government companies. Who are their accountants...Hou, Wi, Foo, Kum & Hasol?
Solar Stocks Show Signs of Life
As far as these going to Home Depot. Never until the prices come down alot. They won't for some time as these companies want to bleed the governments first.
SOL is a China stock. I am a free market kind of guy. No company that is owned by a government will be longf in my portfolio, especially a communist one. Isn't that the biggest oxymoron out there, China stocks. They beat up on Monks, subjugate their people, violate all child labor laws out there, pollute like there is no tommorrow. Yep, sure give me a few thousand shares.
Solar Stocks Show Signs of Life
Monthly Share Rotation Number of Shares Value of Change Percent of Shares Outstanding
Buyers 3/29/08 60,850 $3,999,062 0.80%
Sellers 3/29/08 1,973,109 $129,676,678 3.00%
You guys really need to wake up. There are many "good clean in favor" companies out there. I am not a bear because I don't believe global warming is real. It is real, but we may not have a choice anyway. The earthg was probably meant to be warmer anyway. Look at the prehistoric times. Just because as meteor hit the earth and caused the ice age, we have been getting warmer since. No new news.
I would purchase solar panels if they were right for me, and all should do the same. But if you are an investor or trader, these are totally crap fundamentally. Look at MSFT, IBM, EBAY, GOOG any company that made it. There were massive insider buying, NOT SELLING. I am following the lead of the insiders and institutions which clearly is to sell.
Solar Stocks Show Signs of Life
Contradictions in the Solar Market
Contradictions in the Solar Market
Yeah sure, nuclear power is so dangerous and unpredictable that they use it to power most naval ships that have more bombs and other dangerous stuff on them. Think about it. Even TMI was completely contained and not one person was injured. Chernobyl was a mess because it was a Russian desin that was inadequate, which I am sure the engineers have corrected by now in other plants if it needed to be.
I like this article. Am short SPWR and have puts. Crash and burn baby.
Is Solar Power Inherently Deflationary?
I would be surprised to see if this actually gets done, on time and on schedule and then produce the amount that they say it will. This may be another waste of our taxes when we clearly don't have the excess to throw away. Proven sources of power will win out.
3 Reasons To Be Bullish on Solar Stocks - Cowen
3 Reasons To Be Bullish on Solar Stocks - Cowen
STP trades greater than 94% of it's peers. The growth isn't that good to warrant the present price. Also it's margins aren't the greatest and with the supply of silicone being scarce, as they say, the margins will shrink. Careful with that type of risk. Just look at Ethanol stocks.
I will keep my shorts as I fear if I cover, I won't be able to get back in. SPWR will be back to where it was last year, in the 40's.
Is Solar Power Inherently Deflationary?
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Is Solar Power Inherently Deflationary?
Is Solar Power Inherently Deflationary?
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Given that the average US home requires 9000 killowats that plant will be able to power maybe 20 homes. It will also need backup power, because it won't be able to handle the "peak power" periods.
I think solar has huge baggage. Tremendous amount of land wasted that could be used to plant trees and other CO2 reducing plants and agriculture. The cost of these panels is way too high, and I don't understand why. Silicone has become an incredible cartel it seems, worse than the oil cartels. If they would make these panels cheaper, then the homebuilders could place a few panels on every new home built that would help everone involved. Until that happens, panels will have limited use.
Nuclear power will be our ultimate choice. They will have to build more plants soon and they will. 200/bar oil is in our near future.
3 Reasons To Be Bullish on Solar Stocks - Cowen
These multiples will come down as the stock prices come down. That is the only way. The groth rate is factored into these ratios and they are not possible in the near future, nor the next 2 years. Durable goods numbers this morning came in worse than expected. We are nowhere near a bottom in this recession we are just heading into. Evenone is hoping that there will be a "V" turnaround bottom but that never happens, look at all the rest of the downturns, there are all "U" shaped. So this volatility will have to end before you go long. This stock will never see 140 again. I know, been burned before by many "profitable" companies that had mickey mouse magical kingdom multiples. If you own these stocks, sell then. There will be a time and place to enter a position. It isn't here or in the next year and a half.
3 Reasons To Be Bullish on Solar Stocks - Cowen