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With Help from California, Solar Gets Fired Up

David, you are a big chearleader for SOL and STP. Sol is currently trading down, as their confrence call didn't bode too well for future margins. Inflation will hit the solar market hard also.

With Help from California, Solar Gets Fired Up

These plans are all contingent on a 30% tax credit and also building an adequate delivery grid. If you wish to rest your hard earned dollars on a pipe dream, by all means go ahead.

Solar cannot survive without subsidies and is a very inefficient way of making electricity. Wind, as a renewable is much better suited as unlike solar, can provide energy throughout the day. Solar don't work at night period. You need a back up supply, plain and simple. The tax credits for this should be reduced. As Alpha24/7 states, it takes money out of the poor and disadvantaged anyway. Energy will never be free. we won't be able to get off fossil fuels until our technology increases exponentially, which for solar hasn't happened.

With Help from California, Solar Gets Fired Up

These plans are all contingent on a 30% tax credit and also building an adequate delivery grid. If you wish to rest your hard earned dollars on a pipe dream, by all means go ahead.

Solar cannot survive without subsidies and is a very inefficient way of making electricity. Wind, as a renewable is much better suited as unlike solar, can provide energy throughout the day. Solar don't work at night period. You need a back up supply, plain and simple. The tax credits for this should be reduced. As Alpha24/7 states, it takes money out of the poor and disadvantaged anyway. Energy will never be free. we won't be able to get off fossil fuels until our technology increases exponentially, which for solar hasn't happened.

Buying Green Energy Stocks Into The Elections

Yep fireball, McCain isn't my first choice. Being from NYC, I witnessed twice what Guiliani did after first a miserable Dinkins administration and then after 9/11. The man may have skeletons in his closet, but all these other guys are far worse. The problem is that he is "small time" for the lobyists. There has already been big money invested in these Hussein and McCain from before their presidential runs that the bribers want to have some fruition of their support.

I am a more of a conservative libertarian, if that can exist. Respectr and honor the Constitution, less government and economic stimulation through education and intelligence and hard work of the people. Stop with the handouts and every group claiming they are victims. There are no victims in the USA.

Buying Green Energy Stocks Into The Elections

Yep fireball, McCain isn't my first choice. Being from NYC, I witnessed twice what Guiliani did after first a miserable Dinkins administration and then after 9/11. The man may have skeletons in his closet, but all these other guys are far worse. The problem is that he is "small time" for the lobyists. There has already been big money invested in these Hussein and McCain from before their presidential runs that the bribers want to have some fruition of their support.

I am a more of a conservative libertarian, if that can exist. Respectr and honor the Constitution, less government and economic stimulation through education and intelligence and hard work of the people. Stop with the handouts and every group claiming they are victims. There are no victims in the USA.

Buying Green Energy Stocks Into The Elections

Yep fireball, McCain isn't my first choice. Being from NYC, I witnessed twice what Guiliani did after first a miserable Dinkins administration and then after 9/11. The man may have skeletons in his closet, but all these other guys are far worse. The problem is that he is "small time" for the lobyists. There has already been big money invested in these Hussein and McCain from before their presidential runs that the bribers want to have some fruition of their support.

I am a more of a conservative libertarian, if that can exist. Respectr and honor the Constitution, less government and economic stimulation through education and intelligence and hard work of the people. Stop with the handouts and every group claiming they are victims. There are no victims in the USA.

Buying Green Energy Stocks Into The Elections

Since this has turned into a political debate...I ask you all one question. The poor have been voting democratic for 20 years and they are still poor, while the upper class have seen their taxes go up in those same 20 years. Political parties are all the same, one bends you over without asking but uses vasaline, the other asks but doiesn't use the vasaline.

As far as Obama's platform and as traders you all should know this. He wishes to raise the capital gains tax substantially. This is bad for EVERONE poor and wealthy alike. The guy working a civil service job just above the poverty level has stocks in his union pension fund. He just doesn't see the connection. So, in a few years when he plans to retire, his pension will be greatly reduced and social security may not be there to boot. So it will be the poor who will get poorer by these lying, unAmerican, tax and spend liberals, plain and simple. A vote for Obama is a vote to beguile and abuse the poor.

Solars Should Bounce Today

petyaczar,

"My comment re solar to mobile was = Use solar panels at your house to charge up a battery (capacitor) which you then use during to plug into your hybrid and recharge.. not drive around on solar panels on your car."

Just how much power do you think you can get out of these panael? They are not very efficient and the systems are ridiculously expensive. Talk about gauging. I went to the SPWR website and requested a setup for my home. Over 100K and even with 38K in "government subsidy" it does not make sense. I have issue with the government subsidy on these panels anyway. Subsidies are holding the price of these systems up. Get rid of the subsidies, the prices will drop. American taxpayers are getting hammered in all directions with taxes.

As far as efficiency increases.....solar has been around for some time. The first bubble was in the 70's. The gains have not been all that great. I do not believe anyone is "holding the technology back" as some ignorant liberal rabble rousers would have you believe. If it was possible, don't you think Exxon Mobile, the biggest and most profitable company in the world would see it and start to develope the technology, or GE, Tyco, or any other company? We are a long way off from this . Conservation, more efficient motors and government policy will be the answer in the near term.

Solars Should Bounce Today

petyaczar,

No, actually, the Tipper comment I made was that I agree that she is not much to look at.

Now as to the solar solution. There currently isn't enough power capability to be harnessed by solar panels, batteries etc to power a vehicle. That technology is a long way off. Solar is not free as you say. I have purchased many solar powered lights for my yard, yearly. Why, because they don't last. The power producing capabilities degrade. A "consensus" I found is that they degrade 20-30% after 10 years. That is just from "normal sun exposure." Not to mention the wear and tear from the rain, changing seasons and thermal, wind, dust animals, etc. So it is not free. Do we need renewables, yes of course we do. But these panels and technology are not even close.

Solars Should Bounce Today

"The future is great for alternative energy, and noone needs some Wall street idiots to tell them otherwise and play some manipulation games. Wall street aint the center of the earth, and it has made HUGHE mistakes before. Atleast Germany has now an alternative energy sector creating ample new jobs, the USA on the other hand has a lot of empty houses. The antics of some of the SA editors here are just hilarious, i visit this site to have a good laugh for the most part. The amount of irony to spot is just excessive"

And Germany hasn't made HUGE mistakes in it's past.

You speak with an air of authority and wish to demean America. Your dissatisfaction is aimed at the wrong places. India, China, South America and the rest of the third world is now becoming more civilized. Where is your contempt for those countries and their policies? If anyone is contributing to "man made global warming" it is those countries. So at what price does the US have to subsidise their economic growth. By people like you spewing nonsense about an administration that wishes to protect our interests. That is what they are elected to do.

All you pseudo scientists don't wish to admit that the Earth has been getting warmer since the last ice age. With the eruption of Krakatoa, it helped to cool the earth some but the ball has been rolling since that asteriod hit the earth and wiped out the dinosaurs. Accept it that we have little controll over this, unless we can somehow effectively cause another controlled ice age or cooling period.

As far as solar power being free. It is not. There is energy expended to make the equipment. The panels are outside, in the elements and will degrade. Even a roof needs to be repaired or replaced every 10-15 years, and that is something simple, not panels that have very sensitive technological components. Also the amount of land/ surface area that is used is a tremendous hinderance. It will not support the "economic expansion" that these developing countries need.

These solar plays as of now are a huge bubble. Your self rightousness by being "green" will not make you "super hiolier than thou greenie" by pumping these stocks. Solar China stocks are a total oxymoron. SPWR, FSLR are trading at absurd P/E ratios. and they are down 40-50% of their highs. That is trying to catch a falling knife.

Solars Should Bounce Today

"PS ALGORE thinks Global warming is real because he spend too much time around Tipper Gore - SHE IS HOT!!!!"

I was with you until this.....????????

Solars Should Bounce Today

Jack,

As far as the european mentality that solar is the way to go, you are dead wrong. There is minimum free space in Italy and the "Forrestal" levies severe penalties for clearing land. I know because I have realatives there and my parent's land was cleared, (they live here) by thieves and the government had a big investigation to make sure we weren't involved. They have always had to deal with high prices, both for food and energy. That is nothing new. The Euro is holding strong so they haven't felt the increase in gas as much as the US.

As a matter of fact, Italy is considering new Nuclear power plants, information just released on May 23. Also, German chancellor Merkel said that "Germany will be the laughing stock of Europe by abandoning nuclear power in it's own country only to import it from the other countries."

Solar in it's present form will not be the answer. If we can ramp up the power obtainable then it will be useful. The present forms are just too ineffiecent for what the world demands now.