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      <title>Art's Way: Micro-Cap With Divestiture Opportunity</title>
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        <![CDATA[I am curious why you think they would divest their container business? Did the management make those remarks? That seems at odds with the 10-K, p. 8: &quot;Our sales are increasing and we have more repeat customers. We believe we are positioned to have a profitable year in 2013.&quot; <br/><br/>Also, the debt numbers above don't jive with the financial statements (they have debt of $8.19 million as of Feb 28, 2013) -- by about $3 million. Given the size of the business, that is material. <br/><br/>Also, I wouldn't personally subtract the cash in the valuation because $2 million of the cash is in the form of a customer deposit and is therefore working capital and not &quot;free&quot; to be subtracted from the market price to get the ex-cash price or w.e. ]]>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:31:30 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[I am curious why you think they would divest their container business? Did the management make those remarks? That seems at odds with the 10-K, p. 8: &quot;Our sales are increasing and we have more repeat customers. We believe we are positioned to have a profitable year in 2013.&quot; <br/><br/>Also, the debt numbers above don't jive with the financial statements (they have debt of $8.19 million as of Feb 28, 2013) -- by about $3 million. Given the size of the business, that is material. <br/><br/>Also, I wouldn't personally subtract the cash in the valuation because $2 million of the cash is in the form of a customer deposit and is therefore working capital and not &quot;free&quot; to be subtracted from the market price to get the ex-cash price or w.e. ]]>
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      <title>Parke Bank: A Cheap Small Bank</title>
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        <![CDATA[Rubicon59,<br/><br/>I hear ya, I hear ya. I'll do a follow up to this as their portfolio develops and we will see, over time, what the truth is. ]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:52:09 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[Rubicon59,<br/><br/>I hear ya, I hear ya. I'll do a follow up to this as their portfolio develops and we will see, over time, what the truth is. ]]>
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      <title>Parke Bank: A Cheap Small Bank</title>
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        <![CDATA[Greg Porter,<br/><br/>Out of conservatism but also I believe there are different types of life insurance and I am not sure how realizable of an asset it is. What are your thoughts on the matter?<br/><br/>And thanks for the comment on NJ banks, I'll make a more appropriate comparison next time. <br/><br/>Yea, I think all your worries are justified and vetting management is pretty tough to do. I choose Parke (and skipped over similarly priced banks) because I thought Parke's NPL were disproportionately effected by individual assets and if some of the large problem loans are resolved, it could mean significant improvements in the portfolio. It is true that these are historical mistakes, and should be judged critically as such. <br/><br/>As to your last question Greg, I would agree -- although, I would also say that a diligent analyst might be able to get some insight into the properties which are nonperforming and such insights could be valuable. I'll be writing about more banks in coming weeks but feel free to send me some you'd like covered seeing as I am relatively new to the community and regional banking sector.]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:48:33 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[Greg Porter,<br/><br/>Out of conservatism but also I believe there are different types of life insurance and I am not sure how realizable of an asset it is. What are your thoughts on the matter?<br/><br/>And thanks for the comment on NJ banks, I'll make a more appropriate comparison next time. <br/><br/>Yea, I think all your worries are justified and vetting management is pretty tough to do. I choose Parke (and skipped over similarly priced banks) because I thought Parke's NPL were disproportionately effected by individual assets and if some of the large problem loans are resolved, it could mean significant improvements in the portfolio. It is true that these are historical mistakes, and should be judged critically as such. <br/><br/>As to your last question Greg, I would agree -- although, I would also say that a diligent analyst might be able to get some insight into the properties which are nonperforming and such insights could be valuable. I'll be writing about more banks in coming weeks but feel free to send me some you'd like covered seeing as I am relatively new to the community and regional banking sector.]]>
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      <title>Parke Bank: A Cheap Small Bank</title>
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        <![CDATA[Thanks kinte, I'll probably be doing just that... perhaps even starting in NJ because I was originally comparing Parke with other NJ banks but the details were a bit messy so I went with what you see above. I'll try and find the best ones to write about. ]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:33:12 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[Thanks kinte, I'll probably be doing just that... perhaps even starting in NJ because I was originally comparing Parke with other NJ banks but the details were a bit messy so I went with what you see above. I'll try and find the best ones to write about. ]]>
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      <title>Parke Bank: A Cheap Small Bank</title>
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        <![CDATA[ValueArtifex, <br/><br/>I agree about regional and smaller banks -- I'll be on the look out for more.]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:05:16 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[ValueArtifex, <br/><br/>I agree about regional and smaller banks -- I'll be on the look out for more.]]>
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      <title>Parke Bank: A Cheap Small Bank</title>
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        <![CDATA[Thanks duke1, I saw that too. Unfortunately, sells are less informative than buys but that is still a good point.]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:12:52 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[Thanks duke1, I saw that too. Unfortunately, sells are less informative than buys but that is still a good point.]]>
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      <title>PartnerRe: Solid Earnings At A Big Discount To Book</title>
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        <![CDATA[No, although that cash is truly &quot;free&quot; *until* there is a need for it to pay off claims... and the need for it might occur in the future. GAAP Net income has all sorts of problems, but averaging GAAP net income with insurers has been my procedure. Also, &quot;cash from operations&quot; and &quot;free-cash-flow&quot; will be effectively the same in an insurer. Free-cash-flow is most effective in industries where capital expenditures don't approximate the depreciation charges that are found on the income statement.]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:16:49 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[No, although that cash is truly &quot;free&quot; *until* there is a need for it to pay off claims... and the need for it might occur in the future. GAAP Net income has all sorts of problems, but averaging GAAP net income with insurers has been my procedure. Also, &quot;cash from operations&quot; and &quot;free-cash-flow&quot; will be effectively the same in an insurer. Free-cash-flow is most effective in industries where capital expenditures don't approximate the depreciation charges that are found on the income statement.]]>
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      <title>Privatized Prisons: Public Relations Nightmare But A Pretty Great Business</title>
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        <![CDATA[I agree, investing in CXW reminds me of investing in WRLD.]]>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 08 Jun 2013 14:29:41 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[I agree, investing in CXW reminds me of investing in WRLD.]]>
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      <title>PartnerRe: Solid Earnings At A Big Discount To Book</title>
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        <![CDATA[Carl Menger]]>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 07 Jun 2013 21:54:24 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[Carl Menger]]>
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      <title>PartnerRe: Solid Earnings At A Big Discount To Book</title>
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        <![CDATA[You should see my article on Assurant, sounds right up your alley: <a rel='nofollow' target='_blank' href='http://seekingalpha.com/a/r8vz'>http://seekingalpha.co...</a>]]>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 07 Jun 2013 19:52:57 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[You should see my article on Assurant, sounds right up your alley: <a rel='nofollow' target='_blank' href='http://seekingalpha.com/a/r8vz'>http://seekingalpha.co...</a>]]>
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      <title>PartnerRe: Solid Earnings At A Big Discount To Book</title>
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        <![CDATA[Fully invested else where. If I wasn't I might have had a position in a few of them, with Lancashire having the largest position... although it turns out I am lucky I didn't do that because Lancashire is down some 10% since I wrote about it. 10% more attractive if you ask me. ]]>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 07 Jun 2013 19:50:56 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[Fully invested else where. If I wasn't I might have had a position in a few of them, with Lancashire having the largest position... although it turns out I am lucky I didn't do that because Lancashire is down some 10% since I wrote about it. 10% more attractive if you ask me. ]]>
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      <title>PartnerRe: Solid Earnings At A Big Discount To Book</title>
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        <![CDATA[Yea , Buffett is as good as he even was but his vehicle is slowing down in terms of ROA and ROE. I do think his company will be the largest in the world before he dies. Or, at least, that seems to be the case if he lives long enough. ]]>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 07 Jun 2013 17:18:29 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[Yea , Buffett is as good as he even was but his vehicle is slowing down in terms of ROA and ROE. I do think his company will be the largest in the world before he dies. Or, at least, that seems to be the case if he lives long enough. ]]>
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      <title>PartnerRe: Solid Earnings At A Big Discount To Book</title>
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        <![CDATA[Always. The cash for those expenses is already out the door. Deferred Acquisition Costs is a capitalized expense -- an accounting placeholder for compliance with the revenue and expense 'matching' principle.]]>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 07 Jun 2013 17:16:25 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[Always. The cash for those expenses is already out the door. Deferred Acquisition Costs is a capitalized expense -- an accounting placeholder for compliance with the revenue and expense 'matching' principle.]]>
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      <title>Privatized Prisons: Public Relations Nightmare But A Pretty Great Business</title>
      <link>http://seekingalpha.com/article/1482351/comments?source=feed#comment-19719182</link>
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        <![CDATA[I wrote a paper on it once but those sources are a bit out dated, here is something from 2008. <br/><br/>1. <a rel='nofollow' target='_blank' href='http://bit.ly/ZyiN66'>http://bit.ly/ZyiN66</a><br/><br/>I doubt there will be reform but hopefully we have more public prisons moving forward.]]>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 07 Jun 2013 12:30:30 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[I wrote a paper on it once but those sources are a bit out dated, here is something from 2008. <br/><br/>1. <a rel='nofollow' target='_blank' href='http://bit.ly/ZyiN66'>http://bit.ly/ZyiN66</a><br/><br/>I doubt there will be reform but hopefully we have more public prisons moving forward.]]>
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      <title>Alaska Communications Is An Excellent Takeover Target</title>
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        <![CDATA[Hm... interesting points CJM_CC. ]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2013 16:01:11 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[Hm... interesting points CJM_CC. ]]>
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      <title>Alaska Communications Is An Excellent Takeover Target</title>
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        <![CDATA[Dance Pants, <br/><br/>The payments will likely result in a small gain or loss but the gain or loss will be determined by the *current* and depreciated carrying values of the assets as carried on the balance sheet. Since the assets are not carried at fair value, but historical amortized cost, who knows whether the $100 payments (probably $65 million after tax...) will result in a GAAP net income extraordinary gain. <br/><br/>The reversal of the deferred tax asset ought to result in a large gain, but deferred tax assets are sort of magical beasts anyways since they depend on future earnings (for the asset to be justifiable) and, even then, they are just *place holders for taxes already paid.* Deferred tax assets exist because tax accounting != GAAP accounting. Hope that helps. ]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2013 15:59:46 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[Dance Pants, <br/><br/>The payments will likely result in a small gain or loss but the gain or loss will be determined by the *current* and depreciated carrying values of the assets as carried on the balance sheet. Since the assets are not carried at fair value, but historical amortized cost, who knows whether the $100 payments (probably $65 million after tax...) will result in a GAAP net income extraordinary gain. <br/><br/>The reversal of the deferred tax asset ought to result in a large gain, but deferred tax assets are sort of magical beasts anyways since they depend on future earnings (for the asset to be justifiable) and, even then, they are just *place holders for taxes already paid.* Deferred tax assets exist because tax accounting != GAAP accounting. Hope that helps. ]]>
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      <title>Privatized Prisons: Public Relations Nightmare But A Pretty Great Business</title>
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        <![CDATA[Risk: the high recidivism rates coming out of CCA. Why?? Well think of the private prisons incentive to rehabilitate...]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2013 11:23:36 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[Risk: the high recidivism rates coming out of CCA. Why?? Well think of the private prisons incentive to rehabilitate...]]>
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      <title>Alaska Communications Is An Excellent Takeover Target</title>
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        <![CDATA[Good point on the likelihood of a acquisition. Yet after the AWN acquisition, the declining parts of ALSK's business will be in the new entity which will also significantly help future ALSK (or... that is my understanding when they say &quot;retail service revenue&quot;)<br/><br/>Also, with the debt pay down, ALSK will be much closer to an interest coverage ratio of 2 -- which is acceptable for a public utility. <br/><br/>I think the first two reasons you stated do have an effect a great number of people, but, obviously, a decline in a share price is good if there is value there. Also, Alaska is pretty shielded from the macro fall out of an international crisis so I am unsure that the geopolitical situation has baring here. Good comments though.]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Jun 2013 18:03:03 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[Good point on the likelihood of a acquisition. Yet after the AWN acquisition, the declining parts of ALSK's business will be in the new entity which will also significantly help future ALSK (or... that is my understanding when they say &quot;retail service revenue&quot;)<br/><br/>Also, with the debt pay down, ALSK will be much closer to an interest coverage ratio of 2 -- which is acceptable for a public utility. <br/><br/>I think the first two reasons you stated do have an effect a great number of people, but, obviously, a decline in a share price is good if there is value there. Also, Alaska is pretty shielded from the macro fall out of an international crisis so I am unsure that the geopolitical situation has baring here. Good comments though.]]>
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      <title>When Will People Understand Ford's Debt?</title>
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        <![CDATA[Great article.]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 20:23:21 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[Great article.]]>
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      <title>PartnerRe: Solid Earnings At A Big Discount To Book</title>
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        <![CDATA[Not sure when, but a few reinsurers, like PartnerRe, are also attractive on an earnings basis; e.g., Allied World Assurance (<a href='http://seekingalpha.com/symbol/awh' title='Allied World Assurance Company Holdings, AG'>AWH</a>)* or Lancashire (<a href='http://seekingalpha.com/symbol/lcshf.pk' title='Lancashire Holdings'>LCSHF.PK</a>)**. So, the discount to book is like an extra buffer while we patiently let earnings and growth in tangible book increased the value of the shares. Also, given PRE's exposure to property catastrophe reinsurance, which is short-tail, we can have rapid strength in the shares should the the near term provide few catastrophes. After all, PartnerRe, for 7 years, brought in over $1 billion in cash from operations each year. <br/><br/>PRE is a strong financial company selling at a PE of less than 10 -- the discount to book is icing on the cake. You should check out my article** on Lancashire because the company is selling at a premium to book (because of management, historical earnings, underwriting performance, and capital management) and it is still a good buy I think. The discounts to tangible book are protection and buffering. They provide safety and the possibility of added capital gains. Earnings are more likely to drive the share price than tangible book is -- and the best example of that is Lancashire. <br/><br/>*<a rel='nofollow' target='_blank' href='http://seekingalpha.com/a/tm3r'>http://seekingalpha.co...</a><br/>**<a rel='nofollow' target='_blank' href='http://seekingalpha.com/a/v5zp'>http://seekingalpha.co...</a>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 18:56:09 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[Not sure when, but a few reinsurers, like PartnerRe, are also attractive on an earnings basis; e.g., Allied World Assurance (<a href='http://seekingalpha.com/symbol/awh' title='Allied World Assurance Company Holdings, AG'>AWH</a>)* or Lancashire (<a href='http://seekingalpha.com/symbol/lcshf.pk' title='Lancashire Holdings'>LCSHF.PK</a>)**. So, the discount to book is like an extra buffer while we patiently let earnings and growth in tangible book increased the value of the shares. Also, given PRE's exposure to property catastrophe reinsurance, which is short-tail, we can have rapid strength in the shares should the the near term provide few catastrophes. After all, PartnerRe, for 7 years, brought in over $1 billion in cash from operations each year. <br/><br/>PRE is a strong financial company selling at a PE of less than 10 -- the discount to book is icing on the cake. You should check out my article** on Lancashire because the company is selling at a premium to book (because of management, historical earnings, underwriting performance, and capital management) and it is still a good buy I think. The discounts to tangible book are protection and buffering. They provide safety and the possibility of added capital gains. Earnings are more likely to drive the share price than tangible book is -- and the best example of that is Lancashire. <br/><br/>*<a rel='nofollow' target='_blank' href='http://seekingalpha.com/a/tm3r'>http://seekingalpha.co...</a><br/>**<a rel='nofollow' target='_blank' href='http://seekingalpha.com/a/v5zp'>http://seekingalpha.co...</a>]]>
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      <title>PartnerRe: Solid Earnings At A Big Discount To Book</title>
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        <![CDATA[Mckalip, <br/><br/>If I recall correctly, management has done about 11% on average since inception. Management, however, targets ROEs in the &quot;mid-to-low teens,&quot; I believe.]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 17:53:31 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[Mckalip, <br/><br/>If I recall correctly, management has done about 11% on average since inception. Management, however, targets ROEs in the &quot;mid-to-low teens,&quot; I believe.]]>
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      <title>PartnerRe: Solid Earnings At A Big Discount To Book</title>
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        <![CDATA[DoctorRx, <br/><br/>I didn't mean to submit that last comment, and seeking alpha doesn't allow us to edit comments because, I think, they like the historical record or whatever. In any case, the other comment is fine insofar as you are talking about a business without preferreds. Technically, you needs to subtract the preferred shares at liquidation preference. I don't think PartnerRe will redeem the preferreds soon but the preferreds still represent a chunk of capital within the business. In any case, once you take into account the preferreds the diluted book value of $102 and the tangible diluted book of $92 make sense. If you ignore the liquidation preferrence (which I did above... corrections will be coming to the article), you won't be able to reconcile the press release to the balance sheet and shares outstanding. So the reason the press release is so low is due to the preferreds and not a &quot;redilution&quot; or something. So, your comment helped me notice my error at about the same time as Greg Porter pointed it out. Thanks for that. ]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 16:26:33 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[DoctorRx, <br/><br/>I didn't mean to submit that last comment, and seeking alpha doesn't allow us to edit comments because, I think, they like the historical record or whatever. In any case, the other comment is fine insofar as you are talking about a business without preferreds. Technically, you needs to subtract the preferred shares at liquidation preference. I don't think PartnerRe will redeem the preferreds soon but the preferreds still represent a chunk of capital within the business. In any case, once you take into account the preferreds the diluted book value of $102 and the tangible diluted book of $92 make sense. If you ignore the liquidation preferrence (which I did above... corrections will be coming to the article), you won't be able to reconcile the press release to the balance sheet and shares outstanding. So the reason the press release is so low is due to the preferreds and not a &quot;redilution&quot; or something. So, your comment helped me notice my error at about the same time as Greg Porter pointed it out. Thanks for that. ]]>
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      <title>PartnerRe: Solid Earnings At A Big Discount To Book</title>
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        <![CDATA[Thanks Greg, you're right. I ought to have subtracted them at their liquidation preference... I've typically done that in other articles, seems I have passed over it this time around. You are quite right that at the liquidation preference PRE is not nearly as attractive. In my defense, I don't think management is going to redeem the preferreds anytime soon. For instance, only $230 million is now callable (here: <a rel='nofollow' target='_blank' href='http://bit.ly/10UefVl'>http://bit.ly/10UefVl</a> ) with $325 million being callable after June 2016 and $250 million being callable after March 2018. <br/><br/>In any case, thank you for the correction. I think if we take the preferreds into account, the corporation is at a premium to tangible book by $300 to $400 million. But, assuming time value of money discounting, we get back below book by a smidge. And, of course, if PartnerRe is overreserved, we are again below book. <br/><br/>There is also the case where PartnerRe doesn't redeem the preferreds which would allow the capital required to pay down the preferreds to be used in the business to the benefit of the common stock holders. After all, the cost of capital on the preferreds is pretty small and completely manageable. ]]>
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        <![CDATA[Thanks Greg, you're right. I ought to have subtracted them at their liquidation preference... I've typically done that in other articles, seems I have passed over it this time around. You are quite right that at the liquidation preference PRE is not nearly as attractive. In my defense, I don't think management is going to redeem the preferreds anytime soon. For instance, only $230 million is now callable (here: <a rel='nofollow' target='_blank' href='http://bit.ly/10UefVl'>http://bit.ly/10UefVl</a> ) with $325 million being callable after June 2016 and $250 million being callable after March 2018. <br/><br/>In any case, thank you for the correction. I think if we take the preferreds into account, the corporation is at a premium to tangible book by $300 to $400 million. But, assuming time value of money discounting, we get back below book by a smidge. And, of course, if PartnerRe is overreserved, we are again below book. <br/><br/>There is also the case where PartnerRe doesn't redeem the preferreds which would allow the capital required to pay down the preferreds to be used in the business to the benefit of the common stock holders. After all, the cost of capital on the preferreds is pretty small and completely manageable. ]]>
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      <title>PartnerRe: Solid Earnings At A Big Discount To Book</title>
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        <![CDATA[DoctorRx,<br/><br/>I take the most recent balance sheet (see here: <a rel='nofollow' target='_blank' href='http://1.usa.gov/ZoIXrY'>http://1.usa.gov/ZoIXrY</a>) and I grab stockholders equity (less non-controlling interest) which is about $6,910 million and subtract the following items:<br/><br/>Deferred acquisition costs - $646<br/>Goodwill - $456<br/>Intangible assets - $207<br/>Net tax assets - $11<br/><br/>The first three should always be subtracted, the last one requires some judgment but I like to subtract it to be conservative. <br/><br/>Doing that math, I get $5,590 million (I rounded to $5.6 billion in the article above). <br/><br/>Then, if you are able to find it, you'd want to subtract managements best estimate of the time value of money discount on reserves which is UNREPORTED under GAAP. Also, to be fair, this isn't reported by many reinsurers so its difficult to find and estimate. In PartnerRe's case, it is $452 million -- which you'd add to the $5,590 to get $6,042. <br/><br/>Then, I would look at how the insurer has typically reserved itself. If it has overreserved itself adequately for many years, I think it is safe to estimate that tangible book is future reduced due to conservatism and that it might be worth more as future claims are paid out. <br/><br/>This last bit is highly subjective and I suggest using very very conservative numbers but it is almost by necessity going to be arbitrary since the future hasn't happened yet. <br/><br/>So that is my approach -- and, to reiterate, after the basic adjustments to tangible book, the adjustments begin to take on a more subjective character and therefore one always needs to error on the side of caution. Hope that helps.]]>
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        <![CDATA[DoctorRx,<br/><br/>I take the most recent balance sheet (see here: <a rel='nofollow' target='_blank' href='http://1.usa.gov/ZoIXrY'>http://1.usa.gov/ZoIXrY</a>) and I grab stockholders equity (less non-controlling interest) which is about $6,910 million and subtract the following items:<br/><br/>Deferred acquisition costs - $646<br/>Goodwill - $456<br/>Intangible assets - $207<br/>Net tax assets - $11<br/><br/>The first three should always be subtracted, the last one requires some judgment but I like to subtract it to be conservative. <br/><br/>Doing that math, I get $5,590 million (I rounded to $5.6 billion in the article above). <br/><br/>Then, if you are able to find it, you'd want to subtract managements best estimate of the time value of money discount on reserves which is UNREPORTED under GAAP. Also, to be fair, this isn't reported by many reinsurers so its difficult to find and estimate. In PartnerRe's case, it is $452 million -- which you'd add to the $5,590 to get $6,042. <br/><br/>Then, I would look at how the insurer has typically reserved itself. If it has overreserved itself adequately for many years, I think it is safe to estimate that tangible book is future reduced due to conservatism and that it might be worth more as future claims are paid out. <br/><br/>This last bit is highly subjective and I suggest using very very conservative numbers but it is almost by necessity going to be arbitrary since the future hasn't happened yet. <br/><br/>So that is my approach -- and, to reiterate, after the basic adjustments to tangible book, the adjustments begin to take on a more subjective character and therefore one always needs to error on the side of caution. Hope that helps.]]>
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      <title>PartnerRe: Solid Earnings At A Big Discount To Book</title>
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        <![CDATA[Syarzhuk,<br/><br/>If you mean empirically, then they have lately traded sub book value since the panic of 08. But that isn't &quot;typical&quot; or &quot;atypical&quot; or anything. That is just the short term record of human transactions -- the transactions themselves don't necessarily have to do with the fundamentals of the business. Check out the historical record for the price-to-tangible-book ratio here:  <a rel='nofollow' target='_blank' href='http://bit.ly/13AK1IT'>http://bit.ly/13AK1IT</a> <br/><br/>Now, according to SFAS 5, reinsurance companies can't carry reserves for future catastrophe losses (because they haven't happened yet and accounting must be historical). So I suppose an argument could be made that reinsurers should sell at a slight discount to their value as justified by book or earnings. But how should one adjust for a 1 in 250 year catastrophe loss? There is not an obvious answer. If a 1 in 250 year loss could be 15% of shareholders equity, ought we to discount the book value by 15%? Or by 15% divided by 250 years -- i.e., 0.06%? SFAS 5 determined that under GAAP, accountants couldn't record reserves for future events which may or may not happen. If they happen, tangible book may seem retrospectively overstated while those claims are paid out. If a catastrophe doesn't happen, tangible book simply increases by the amount of the premium less the expense ratio. <br/><br/>Anyways, it is very true that reinsurers have sold below book recently (i.e., for the last 4 to 5 years) but that isn't justified by the fundamentals, I don't think. Nor is a 4 to 5 year period indicative of the normal course of business.<br/><br/>In my opinion, if a reinsurer has assets which are *most likely* worth $6 billion, and it is selling at $5 billion, that discount is neither typical or rational -- it is probably temporary and irrational. <br/><br/>That said, the market can be irrational for long period of time...as Keynes remarked: &quot;Markets can remain irrational a lot longer than you and I can remain solvent.&quot; Anyways, good question.]]>
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        <![CDATA[Syarzhuk,<br/><br/>If you mean empirically, then they have lately traded sub book value since the panic of 08. But that isn't &quot;typical&quot; or &quot;atypical&quot; or anything. That is just the short term record of human transactions -- the transactions themselves don't necessarily have to do with the fundamentals of the business. Check out the historical record for the price-to-tangible-book ratio here:  <a rel='nofollow' target='_blank' href='http://bit.ly/13AK1IT'>http://bit.ly/13AK1IT</a> <br/><br/>Now, according to SFAS 5, reinsurance companies can't carry reserves for future catastrophe losses (because they haven't happened yet and accounting must be historical). So I suppose an argument could be made that reinsurers should sell at a slight discount to their value as justified by book or earnings. But how should one adjust for a 1 in 250 year catastrophe loss? There is not an obvious answer. If a 1 in 250 year loss could be 15% of shareholders equity, ought we to discount the book value by 15%? Or by 15% divided by 250 years -- i.e., 0.06%? SFAS 5 determined that under GAAP, accountants couldn't record reserves for future events which may or may not happen. If they happen, tangible book may seem retrospectively overstated while those claims are paid out. If a catastrophe doesn't happen, tangible book simply increases by the amount of the premium less the expense ratio. <br/><br/>Anyways, it is very true that reinsurers have sold below book recently (i.e., for the last 4 to 5 years) but that isn't justified by the fundamentals, I don't think. Nor is a 4 to 5 year period indicative of the normal course of business.<br/><br/>In my opinion, if a reinsurer has assets which are *most likely* worth $6 billion, and it is selling at $5 billion, that discount is neither typical or rational -- it is probably temporary and irrational. <br/><br/>That said, the market can be irrational for long period of time...as Keynes remarked: &quot;Markets can remain irrational a lot longer than you and I can remain solvent.&quot; Anyways, good question.]]>
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        <![CDATA[Long ALSK too, although I am not betting on an acquisition. ]]>
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        <![CDATA[Long ALSK too, although I am not betting on an acquisition. ]]>
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      <title>Unlocking Value At Magnetek</title>
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        <![CDATA[Good find, Nick. The pension obligation is overstated by nearly double which would put stock holders equity in the positive. They are using a ridiculously low discount rate of 3.5% which is completely distorting the balance sheet.]]>
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        <![CDATA[Good find, Nick. The pension obligation is overstated by nearly double which would put stock holders equity in the positive. They are using a ridiculously low discount rate of 3.5% which is completely distorting the balance sheet.]]>
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      <title>Lancashire Holdings, High ROEs Maintained By High Dividends</title>
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        <![CDATA[Yes, if they wrote dramatically less business the special dividend would be less -- but that situation would be temporary. The company has a strong core of business which would most likely stay profitable and carry them through. Also, over any given 2 or 3 year period business like insurance and reinsurance can have volatile results. <br/><br/>Hence why I stress &quot;long-term&quot; because no one ever knows what events might come along in the short term -- but I trust the CEO and its differentiated culture, much of which I believe is demonstrated in the giving back of capital which can't be put to good use. <br/><br/>Also the long-term PE of 7.6, at today's prices, helps with the argument. For instance, Hiscox, another London traded Bermudian insurer and reinsurer trades at a premium and PE of 15 or 16. In my opinion Hiscox, despite its long history (since 1946 or 1901 depending on how much you want to give the founder credit for), doesn't seem to deserve the premium to Lancashire. Of course, Lancashire is still young so that counts against it a bit in the insurance business, but its management team has been around a long time (CEO Richard Brindle has at least 24 years of underwriting experience). <br/><br/>I understand the question, but I sort of think the company would right size itself should pricing become so weak has to dramatically reduce premiums. And, if they turn out to be right, we, as shareholders, would thank them for their foresight -- since losses due to inadequate pricing would shrink capital available in specific markets allowing Lancashire to advance back into them under better pricing conditions. But yes, they might carry staff into poor pricing conditions provided they believed them temporary.]]>
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        <![CDATA[Yes, if they wrote dramatically less business the special dividend would be less -- but that situation would be temporary. The company has a strong core of business which would most likely stay profitable and carry them through. Also, over any given 2 or 3 year period business like insurance and reinsurance can have volatile results. <br/><br/>Hence why I stress &quot;long-term&quot; because no one ever knows what events might come along in the short term -- but I trust the CEO and its differentiated culture, much of which I believe is demonstrated in the giving back of capital which can't be put to good use. <br/><br/>Also the long-term PE of 7.6, at today's prices, helps with the argument. For instance, Hiscox, another London traded Bermudian insurer and reinsurer trades at a premium and PE of 15 or 16. In my opinion Hiscox, despite its long history (since 1946 or 1901 depending on how much you want to give the founder credit for), doesn't seem to deserve the premium to Lancashire. Of course, Lancashire is still young so that counts against it a bit in the insurance business, but its management team has been around a long time (CEO Richard Brindle has at least 24 years of underwriting experience). <br/><br/>I understand the question, but I sort of think the company would right size itself should pricing become so weak has to dramatically reduce premiums. And, if they turn out to be right, we, as shareholders, would thank them for their foresight -- since losses due to inadequate pricing would shrink capital available in specific markets allowing Lancashire to advance back into them under better pricing conditions. But yes, they might carry staff into poor pricing conditions provided they believed them temporary.]]>
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      <title>Aspen Insurance Holdings: Discounted And Shareholder Friendly</title>
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        <![CDATA[Good question alaskapnp and thanks for the nice words. I wrote about that question in my article on Everest Re (<a href='http://seekingalpha.com/symbol/re' title='Everest Re Group Ltd.'>RE</a>)**. As you might guess, it is mostly due to regulation and taxation. Here is what I wrote then:<br/><br/>&quot;Why does Bermuda host so many insurance companies? How is it the second-largest reinsurance market, second only to New York? First, the country doesn't levy a corporate income tax on insurers, so that is quite a perk. Another reason is the regulatory environment which:<br/><br/>&quot;…fosters innovation and creativity by responding to the emerging needs of the insurance and reinsurance markets…from the development of mechanisms such as captives in the 1960's, through the formation of excess liability carriers ACE and XL and the development of finite risk reinsurer Centre Solution in the 1980's, and though the formation of property catastrophe companies Mid-Ocean Re, PartnerRe, Endurance Re and many other over the last two decades, Bermuda has been and continues to be, a centre for innovation in the insurance market.&quot; [1]<br/><br/>Also, there is a tax incentive for American insurers to purchase reinsurance from a foreign firm, e.g., firms from Bermuda. This tax incentive, which takes the form of allowing premiums paid to foreign insurers as tax deductions, would be eliminated in the most recent White House budget***. This elimination will make having Bermudian reinsurance less advantageous if you are an American insurer seeking reinsurance. Losing this advantage would make the Bermudian insurers less attractive.&quot;<br/><br/>I hope that answers your question. We could always go deeper and talk about specific laws (for instance, I think Bermuda recently promised in a law not to tax insurers until at least 2035 or thereabouts). But that is the gist. Thanks for reading.<br/><br/>** On Everest RE: <a rel='nofollow' target='_blank' href='http://bit.ly/13k2POt'>http://bit.ly/13k2POt</a><br/>***<a rel='nofollow' target='_blank' href='http://bit.ly/174koVK'>http://bit.ly/174koVK</a>]]>
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        <![CDATA[Good question alaskapnp and thanks for the nice words. I wrote about that question in my article on Everest Re (<a href='http://seekingalpha.com/symbol/re' title='Everest Re Group Ltd.'>RE</a>)**. As you might guess, it is mostly due to regulation and taxation. Here is what I wrote then:<br/><br/>&quot;Why does Bermuda host so many insurance companies? How is it the second-largest reinsurance market, second only to New York? First, the country doesn't levy a corporate income tax on insurers, so that is quite a perk. Another reason is the regulatory environment which:<br/><br/>&quot;…fosters innovation and creativity by responding to the emerging needs of the insurance and reinsurance markets…from the development of mechanisms such as captives in the 1960's, through the formation of excess liability carriers ACE and XL and the development of finite risk reinsurer Centre Solution in the 1980's, and though the formation of property catastrophe companies Mid-Ocean Re, PartnerRe, Endurance Re and many other over the last two decades, Bermuda has been and continues to be, a centre for innovation in the insurance market.&quot; [1]<br/><br/>Also, there is a tax incentive for American insurers to purchase reinsurance from a foreign firm, e.g., firms from Bermuda. This tax incentive, which takes the form of allowing premiums paid to foreign insurers as tax deductions, would be eliminated in the most recent White House budget***. This elimination will make having Bermudian reinsurance less advantageous if you are an American insurer seeking reinsurance. Losing this advantage would make the Bermudian insurers less attractive.&quot;<br/><br/>I hope that answers your question. We could always go deeper and talk about specific laws (for instance, I think Bermuda recently promised in a law not to tax insurers until at least 2035 or thereabouts). But that is the gist. Thanks for reading.<br/><br/>** On Everest RE: <a rel='nofollow' target='_blank' href='http://bit.ly/13k2POt'>http://bit.ly/13k2POt</a><br/>***<a rel='nofollow' target='_blank' href='http://bit.ly/174koVK'>http://bit.ly/174koVK</a>]]>
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      <title>Aspen Insurance Holdings: Discounted And Shareholder Friendly</title>
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        <![CDATA[Thanks Brian! And that is a good point. I've made mention of that in previous articles but looks like I left it out this time around. AHL is definitely a solid insurer. <br/><br/>I have some thoughts on the question: &quot;how much redundancy of reserves is too much?&quot; The question is interesting because those reserves are really just a book keeping entry on the balance sheet. The actual reserves themselves are in the form of bonds. So that capital, which is part of the reserve redundancy, is earning a yield on its bonds *rather* than the average ROE. To make a long story short, I think we could, in theory, quantify the &quot;loss from too much redundancy&quot; by multiplying the redundancy figure by the spread between the avg. ROE and the current yield on the investment portfolio. In more natural interest rate environments, I bet this spread would be much smaller than it is today. I suppose the moral is, perhaps, that now is the time to play it close to the chest as an insurer (i.e., not over-reserve) so that capital which would be allocated to low yielding bonds could instead be (1) allocated to the capital to expand the business and earn the avg. ROE or it could be (2) allocated to share buy backs or dividends. And with many of our reinsurers below book, buy backs are effectively a capital deployment at a yield of the avg. ROE + the discount from a accurately calculated book.]]>
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        <![CDATA[Thanks Brian! And that is a good point. I've made mention of that in previous articles but looks like I left it out this time around. AHL is definitely a solid insurer. <br/><br/>I have some thoughts on the question: &quot;how much redundancy of reserves is too much?&quot; The question is interesting because those reserves are really just a book keeping entry on the balance sheet. The actual reserves themselves are in the form of bonds. So that capital, which is part of the reserve redundancy, is earning a yield on its bonds *rather* than the average ROE. To make a long story short, I think we could, in theory, quantify the &quot;loss from too much redundancy&quot; by multiplying the redundancy figure by the spread between the avg. ROE and the current yield on the investment portfolio. In more natural interest rate environments, I bet this spread would be much smaller than it is today. I suppose the moral is, perhaps, that now is the time to play it close to the chest as an insurer (i.e., not over-reserve) so that capital which would be allocated to low yielding bonds could instead be (1) allocated to the capital to expand the business and earn the avg. ROE or it could be (2) allocated to share buy backs or dividends. And with many of our reinsurers below book, buy backs are effectively a capital deployment at a yield of the avg. ROE + the discount from a accurately calculated book.]]>
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