Bob'29's Comments RSS Syndication from SeekingAlpha.com http://seekingalpha.comuser/167120/comments http://seekingalpha.com/article/167164-halloween-indicators-issue-buy-signals-now-what?source=feed#comment-733897 733897 Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:45:02 -0400 http://seekingalpha.com/article/169387-etf-market-trends-bears-emerge-from-hibernation-in-oversold-market?source=feed#comment-733885 733885 Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:37:28 -0400 http://seekingalpha.com/article/169382-wednesday-outlook-commodities-global-markets?source=feed#comment-733878 733878 Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:35:02 -0400 http://seekingalpha.com/article/155366-a-few-bearish-views-on-the-stock-market?source=feed#comment-624586 624586 Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:54:45 -0400 http://seekingalpha.com/article/149530-a-week-of-superstar-bears-moving-the-market?source=feed#comment-592985 592985 "Blind Jockey Goads Horse Off the Track" Mr. Vito fails to inform us that some of the "spectacular" earnings of the week were actually abysmal. Intel beat their results of the '08 melt down quarter. Not exactly great...in fact very poor. Goldman Sacs made money after billions of government AIG bailout were siphoned in their back door. Both Paulson and Geitner are good ol' Goldman boys. A new rule prevents disclosure of where big block trades come from (the ones that have caused the late day moves this week). Can you smell Goldman Sacs? Are we happy that the government can now directly manipulate stock prices so that today's pain is put off until tomorrow. Unemployment is over 10% in fifteen states. The author is correct. We are we dupes with wool over our eyes. We are sheep ready to be skewered for the poolside barbecue. We are lemmings jumping into toxic water.]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:26:26 -0400 "Blind Jockey Goads Horse Off the Track" Mr. Vito fails to inform us that some of the "spectacular" earnings of the week were actually abysmal. Intel beat their results of the '08 melt down quarter. Not exactly great...in fact very poor. Goldman Sacs made money after billions of government AIG bailout were siphoned in their back door. Both Paulson and Geitner are good ol' Goldman boys. A new rule prevents disclosure of where big block trades come from (the ones that have caused the late day moves this week). Can you smell Goldman Sacs? Are we happy that the government can now directly manipulate stock prices so that today's pain is put off until tomorrow. Unemployment is over 10% in fifteen states. The author is correct. We are we dupes with wool over our eyes. We are sheep ready to be skewered for the poolside barbecue. We are lemmings jumping into toxic water.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/149535-is-the-recession-really-over?source=feed#comment-592980 592980 "Blind Jockey Goads Horse Off the Track" Mr. Vito fails to inform us that some of the "spectacular" earnings of the week were actually abysmal. Intel beat their results of the '08 melt down quarter. Not exactly great...in fact very poor. Goldman Sacs made money after billions of government AIG bailout were siphoned in their back door. Both Paulson and Geitner are good ol' Goldman boys. A new rule prevents disclosure of where big block trades come from (the ones that have caused the late day moves this week). Can you smell Goldman Sacs? Are we happy that the government can now directly manipulate stock prices so that today's pain is put off until tomorrow. Unemployment is over 10% in fifteen states. The author is correct. We are we dupes with wool over our eyes. We are sheep ready to be skewered for the poolside barbecue. We are lemmings jumping into toxic water.]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:16:22 -0400 "Blind Jockey Goads Horse Off the Track" Mr. Vito fails to inform us that some of the "spectacular" earnings of the week were actually abysmal. Intel beat their results of the '08 melt down quarter. Not exactly great...in fact very poor. Goldman Sacs made money after billions of government AIG bailout were siphoned in their back door. Both Paulson and Geitner are good ol' Goldman boys. A new rule prevents disclosure of where big block trades come from (the ones that have caused the late day moves this week). Can you smell Goldman Sacs? Are we happy that the government can now directly manipulate stock prices so that today's pain is put off until tomorrow. Unemployment is over 10% in fifteen states. The author is correct. We are we dupes with wool over our eyes. We are sheep ready to be skewered for the poolside barbecue. We are lemmings jumping into toxic water.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/149564-earnings-preview-week-of-july-20-24-2009?source=feed#comment-592978 592978 "Blind Jockey Goads Horse Off the Track" Mr. Vito fails to inform us that some of the "spectacular" earnings of the week were actually abysmal. Intel beat their results of the '08 melt down quarter. Not exactly great...in fact very poor. Goldman Sacs made money after billions of government AIG bailout were siphoned in their back door. Both Paulson and Geitner are good ol' Goldman boys. A new rule prevents disclosure of where big block trades come from (the ones that have caused the late day moves this week). Can you smell Goldman Sacs? Are we happy that the government can now directly manipulate stock prices so that today's pain is put off until tomorrow. Unemployment is over 10% in fifteen states. The author is correct. We are we dupes with wool over our eyes. We are sheep ready to be skewered for the poolside barbecue. We are lemmings jumping into toxic water.]]> Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:14:40 -0400 "Blind Jockey Goads Horse Off the Track" Mr. Vito fails to inform us that some of the "spectacular" earnings of the week were actually abysmal. Intel beat their results of the '08 melt down quarter. Not exactly great...in fact very poor. Goldman Sacs made money after billions of government AIG bailout were siphoned in their back door. Both Paulson and Geitner are good ol' Goldman boys. A new rule prevents disclosure of where big block trades come from (the ones that have caused the late day moves this week). Can you smell Goldman Sacs? Are we happy that the government can now directly manipulate stock prices so that today's pain is put off until tomorrow. Unemployment is over 10% in fifteen states. The author is correct. We are we dupes with wool over our eyes. We are sheep ready to be skewered for the poolside barbecue. We are lemmings jumping into toxic water.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/140641-4-bathwater-babies-and-20-dogs-with-fleas-stocks-for-the-week?source=feed#comment-533428 533428 Fri, 05 Jun 2009 10:33:45 -0400 http://seekingalpha.com/article/136902-hansen-natural-just-like-old-times?source=feed#comment-533419 533419 Fri, 05 Jun 2009 10:31:23 -0400 http://seekingalpha.com/article/138247-chips-bullish-on-the-restock-rally?source=feed#comment-520570 520570 Wed, 27 May 2009 22:18:31 -0400 http://seekingalpha.com/article/139188-the-rise-of-the-silver-surfer?source=feed#comment-515849 515849 Sun, 24 May 2009 01:12:20 -0400 http://seekingalpha.com/article/138159-45-cheap-repurchasers-of-stock?source=feed#comment-515518 515518

On May 23 01:15 PM Bob'29 wrote:

Error: Should read; At $8.83 Hot Topic, Inc (seekingalpha.com/symbo...) looked
to be a good repurchase choice. It closed 21% lower (not 9.7% lower) at weeks end at the price $6.97 (not $7.97). Hot Topic, Inc looks like Hot Bargin.]]> Sat, 23 May 2009 13:20:08 -0400

On May 23 01:15 PM Bob'29 wrote:

Error: Should read; At $8.83 Hot Topic, Inc (seekingalpha.com/symbo...) looked
to be a good repurchase choice. It closed 21% lower (not 9.7% lower) at weeks end at the price $6.97 (not $7.97). Hot Topic, Inc looks like Hot Bargin.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/138159-45-cheap-repurchasers-of-stock?source=feed#comment-515514 515514 HOTT) looked to be a good repurchase choice. It closed 9.7 % lower at weeks end at the price $7.97. Hot Topic, Inc looks like Hot Bargin.]]> Sat, 23 May 2009 13:15:37 -0400 HOTT) looked to be a good repurchase choice. It closed 9.7 % lower at weeks end at the price $7.97. Hot Topic, Inc looks like Hot Bargin.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/138597-short-base-rises-for-hot-topic?source=feed#comment-515127 515127 Fri, 22 May 2009 22:10:20 -0400 http://seekingalpha.com/article/138597-short-base-rises-for-hot-topic?source=feed#comment-515055 515055 Fri, 22 May 2009 20:00:21 -0400 http://seekingalpha.com/article/136102-ben-franklin-on-where-the-market-is-heading?source=feed#comment-493700 493700 Thu, 07 May 2009 10:22:08 -0400 http://seekingalpha.com/article/125951-it-s-a-winter-warming-spell-but-more-snow-ahead-for-markets?source=feed#comment-425794 425794 SMH) moved up 15% in this same time. The up move for the sector and the major indexes may be nearly exausted. It is of interest that Neely, who is unequivacle master of Elliot Wave analysis is looking at 764 on the S&P as the climax of this rally and the beginning of the next leg down to the area of 625. Time to pull up the shorts again? ]]> Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:56:13 -0400 SMH) moved up 15% in this same time. The up move for the sector and the major indexes may be nearly exausted. It is of interest that Neely, who is unequivacle master of Elliot Wave analysis is looking at 764 on the S&P as the climax of this rally and the beginning of the next leg down to the area of 625. Time to pull up the shorts again? ]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/115649-no-upturn-for-semi-equipment-until-june-at-earliest?source=feed#comment-425789 425789 SMH) moved up 15% in this same time. The up move for the sector and the major indexes may be nearly exausted. It is of interest that the Neely, who is unequivacle master of Elliot Wave analysis is looking at 764 on the S&P as the climax of this rally and the beginning of the next leg down to the area of 625. Time to pull up the shorts again?]]> Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:51:40 -0400 SMH) moved up 15% in this same time. The up move for the sector and the major indexes may be nearly exausted. It is of interest that the Neely, who is unequivacle master of Elliot Wave analysis is looking at 764 on the S&P as the climax of this rally and the beginning of the next leg down to the area of 625. Time to pull up the shorts again?]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/125667-intel-is-there-growth-potential-beyond-the-core?source=feed#comment-425784 425784 SMH) moved up 15% in this same time. The up move for the sector and the major indexes may be nearly exausted. It is of interest that the Neely, who is unequivacle master of Elliot Wave analysis is watching 764 (a mere 8 points) on the S&P as the climax of this rally and the beginning of the next leg down to the area of 625. Time to pull up the shorts again?]]> Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:43:57 -0400 SMH) moved up 15% in this same time. The up move for the sector and the major indexes may be nearly exausted. It is of interest that the Neely, who is unequivacle master of Elliot Wave analysis is watching 764 (a mere 8 points) on the S&P as the climax of this rally and the beginning of the next leg down to the area of 625. Time to pull up the shorts again?]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/114122-four-banks-to-bank-on-barron-s?source=feed#comment-357153 357153 Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:01:19 -0500 http://seekingalpha.com/article/114122-four-banks-to-bank-on-barron-s?source=feed#comment-352906 352906 "Citi May Book $10 Billion Gain on Morgan Stanley Deal (Update1)


By Bradley Keoun and Christine Harper


Jan. 12 (Bloomberg) -- Citigroup Inc. may book a gain of as much as $10 billion by selling control of its brokerage to Morgan Stanley, helping to replenish capital depleted by the biggest losses in the bank’s history, a person familiar with the talks said.

The pretax gain would come from writing up the value of Citigroup’s Smith Barney unit to a new price set by the deal, said the person, who declined to be identified because the talks are confidential. The gain of $5 billion to $6 billion after taxes would flow into Citigroup’s capital, a loan-loss cushion so eroded that the New York-based bank had to get $45 billion of rescue funds last year from the U.S. government.

“You’re selling out the future to get through the crisis of the present, and unfortunately they don’t have a lot of other choice,” David Trone, an analyst at Fox-Pitt Kelton Cochran Caronia Waller in New York, said in a Jan. 9 interview.

The worst banking crisis since the Great Depression forced Citigroup Chief Executive Officer Vikram Pandit, 51, to abandon his pledge not to sell Smith Barney. For the past decade, the unit has been at the center of the bank’s plan to provide bond- underwriting, savings accounts and investment advice under a single umbrella. Former U.S. Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, 70, who joined the company in 1999 and had opposed calls to break it up, said Friday he plans to quit the board.

Citigroup spokesman Michael Hanretta declined to comment. Jim Wiggins, a spokesman for Morgan Stanley, didn’t return calls seeking comment.

‘Morgan Stanley Smith Barney’

Talks on the plan to combine Smith Barney with Morgan Stanley’s brokerage in a $20 billion joint venture progressed over the weekend, another person briefed on the talks said. The deal may be announced as soon as mid-week, this person said.

Under the plan being considered, Morgan Stanley would pay $2 billion to $3 billion to Citigroup to obtain 51 percent of a venture that would combine both firms’ retail brokerage arms, people familiar with the plan said.

The new firm, tentatively named Morgan Stanley Smith Barney, would have about 22,000 brokers, exceeding the network created by Bank of America Corp.’s Jan. 1 takeover of Merrill Lynch & Co., which have about 20,000 brokers between them.

Citigroup posted $10.4 billion of net losses in the first nine months of 2008, putting the bank on track to post its worst year since predecessor City Bank of New York was founded in 1812. Beleaguered by writedowns on mortgage-related bonds, losses on commercial real estate loans and costs related to the bankruptcy of chemicals maker LyondellBasell Industries AF, Citigroup probably lost another $5.82 billion in the fourth quarter, Sandler O’Neill & Partners analyst Jeff Harte estimated in a Jan. 9 report.

German Sale

That figure doesn’t include a $4 billion one-time gain that Citigroup expects from the sale, completed last month, of its retail banking operations in Germany. That unit was also sold by Pandit in an effort to free up capital.

Citigroup, which has 352,000 employees and 200 million customers and does business in more than 100 countries, was pieced together through acquisitions during a 17-year span by former Chairman Sanford “Sandy” Weill, who stepped down from a full-time role in October 2003.

Pandit, hired in December 2007 following the ouster of Weill’s handpicked successor, Charles O. “Chuck” Prince, vowed to conduct a “dispassionate” review of Citigroup’s business mix, and whether the company was too big to manage, as some analysts and investors contended. Pandit, who turns 52 this week, concluded that while cost cuts were needed and some assets should be sold, Smith Barney should remain united with the bank’s other operations of branch banking, securities trading and underwriting and payment processing.

Government Help

Pandit told employees on a Nov. 21 conference call that he didn’t plan to break up the company, singling out Smith Barney as a business he wanted to keep. Later that day, the bank’s share price plunged to a 15-year-low of $3.77, and Pandit spent the ensuing weekend huddled in talks with officials from the U.S. Treasury Department, Federal Reserve and Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. over a plan to receive $20 billion of government bailout funds in addition to the $25 billion it had already received, and $306 billion of guarantees on troubled assets.

The decision to sell majority control of Smith Barney is an acknowledgement by Pandit that relinquishing responsibility for the unit may simplify the task of managing Citigroup’s remaining businesses, one of the people familiar with the plan said.

Citigroup had the worst stock performance for two years in a row among large U.S. banks, as measured by the KBW Bank Index. The stock closed at $6.75 on Jan. 9 in New York Stock Exchange composite trading.

‘Right-Sizing’

“There’s a growing dissatisfaction with the slowness with which Citi seems to be dealing with its issues, particularly in terms of right-sizing the company,” said Bert Ely, chief executive officer of banking industry consultant Ely & Co. in Alexandria, Virginia. That requires “not only substantial downsizing of the balance sheet, but also disposing of and selling off activities that are not crucial to its long-term strategy.”

Richard Parsons, 60, Citigroup’s lead outside director, told the Wall Street Journal that the board has confidence in Pandit’s leadership. Parsons may be named later this month to replace board Chairman Win Bischoff, 67, the Journal reported yesterday, citing unidentified people familiar with the plans."

To contact the reporter on this story: Bradley Keoun in New York at bkeoun@bloomberg.net; Christine Harper in New York at charper@bloomberg.net.

Last Updated: January 11, 2009 22:15 EST

]]> Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:36:08 -0500 "Citi May Book $10 Billion Gain on Morgan Stanley Deal (Update1)


By Bradley Keoun and Christine Harper


Jan. 12 (Bloomberg) -- Citigroup Inc. may book a gain of as much as $10 billion by selling control of its brokerage to Morgan Stanley, helping to replenish capital depleted by the biggest losses in the bank’s history, a person familiar with the talks said.

The pretax gain would come from writing up the value of Citigroup’s Smith Barney unit to a new price set by the deal, said the person, who declined to be identified because the talks are confidential. The gain of $5 billion to $6 billion after taxes would flow into Citigroup’s capital, a loan-loss cushion so eroded that the New York-based bank had to get $45 billion of rescue funds last year from the U.S. government.

“You’re selling out the future to get through the crisis of the present, and unfortunately they don’t have a lot of other choice,” David Trone, an analyst at Fox-Pitt Kelton Cochran Caronia Waller in New York, said in a Jan. 9 interview.

The worst banking crisis since the Great Depression forced Citigroup Chief Executive Officer Vikram Pandit, 51, to abandon his pledge not to sell Smith Barney. For the past decade, the unit has been at the center of the bank’s plan to provide bond- underwriting, savings accounts and investment advice under a single umbrella. Former U.S. Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, 70, who joined the company in 1999 and had opposed calls to break it up, said Friday he plans to quit the board.

Citigroup spokesman Michael Hanretta declined to comment. Jim Wiggins, a spokesman for Morgan Stanley, didn’t return calls seeking comment.

‘Morgan Stanley Smith Barney’

Talks on the plan to combine Smith Barney with Morgan Stanley’s brokerage in a $20 billion joint venture progressed over the weekend, another person briefed on the talks said. The deal may be announced as soon as mid-week, this person said.

Under the plan being considered, Morgan Stanley would pay $2 billion to $3 billion to Citigroup to obtain 51 percent of a venture that would combine both firms’ retail brokerage arms, people familiar with the plan said.

The new firm, tentatively named Morgan Stanley Smith Barney, would have about 22,000 brokers, exceeding the network created by Bank of America Corp.’s Jan. 1 takeover of Merrill Lynch & Co., which have about 20,000 brokers between them.

Citigroup posted $10.4 billion of net losses in the first nine months of 2008, putting the bank on track to post its worst year since predecessor City Bank of New York was founded in 1812. Beleaguered by writedowns on mortgage-related bonds, losses on commercial real estate loans and costs related to the bankruptcy of chemicals maker LyondellBasell Industries AF, Citigroup probably lost another $5.82 billion in the fourth quarter, Sandler O’Neill & Partners analyst Jeff Harte estimated in a Jan. 9 report.

German Sale

That figure doesn’t include a $4 billion one-time gain that Citigroup expects from the sale, completed last month, of its retail banking operations in Germany. That unit was also sold by Pandit in an effort to free up capital.

Citigroup, which has 352,000 employees and 200 million customers and does business in more than 100 countries, was pieced together through acquisitions during a 17-year span by former Chairman Sanford “Sandy” Weill, who stepped down from a full-time role in October 2003.

Pandit, hired in December 2007 following the ouster of Weill’s handpicked successor, Charles O. “Chuck” Prince, vowed to conduct a “dispassionate” review of Citigroup’s business mix, and whether the company was too big to manage, as some analysts and investors contended. Pandit, who turns 52 this week, concluded that while cost cuts were needed and some assets should be sold, Smith Barney should remain united with the bank’s other operations of branch banking, securities trading and underwriting and payment processing.

Government Help

Pandit told employees on a Nov. 21 conference call that he didn’t plan to break up the company, singling out Smith Barney as a business he wanted to keep. Later that day, the bank’s share price plunged to a 15-year-low of $3.77, and Pandit spent the ensuing weekend huddled in talks with officials from the U.S. Treasury Department, Federal Reserve and Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. over a plan to receive $20 billion of government bailout funds in addition to the $25 billion it had already received, and $306 billion of guarantees on troubled assets.

The decision to sell majority control of Smith Barney is an acknowledgement by Pandit that relinquishing responsibility for the unit may simplify the task of managing Citigroup’s remaining businesses, one of the people familiar with the plan said.

Citigroup had the worst stock performance for two years in a row among large U.S. banks, as measured by the KBW Bank Index. The stock closed at $6.75 on Jan. 9 in New York Stock Exchange composite trading.

‘Right-Sizing’

“There’s a growing dissatisfaction with the slowness with which Citi seems to be dealing with its issues, particularly in terms of right-sizing the company,” said Bert Ely, chief executive officer of banking industry consultant Ely & Co. in Alexandria, Virginia. That requires “not only substantial downsizing of the balance sheet, but also disposing of and selling off activities that are not crucial to its long-term strategy.”

Richard Parsons, 60, Citigroup’s lead outside director, told the Wall Street Journal that the board has confidence in Pandit’s leadership. Parsons may be named later this month to replace board Chairman Win Bischoff, 67, the Journal reported yesterday, citing unidentified people familiar with the plans."

To contact the reporter on this story: Bradley Keoun in New York at bkeoun@bloomberg.net; Christine Harper in New York at charper@bloomberg.net.

Last Updated: January 11, 2009 22:15 EST

]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/114122-four-banks-to-bank-on-barron-s?source=feed#comment-352588 352588
"Why 'Morgan Barney' Makes Sense

ONE OF MORGAN STANLEY'S key initiatives in the past few quarters has been to reduce its risk profile -- and the rumored talks Friday to merge its brokerage unit with Citigroup's (ticker: C) Smith Barney unit would advance that goal.

It's unclear how such a deal would be structured but it apparently would involve a payment by Morgan Stanley (MS) to Citi in order to give Morgan Stanley a 51% interest in the joint venture and an option to gain full ownership in five years. Such payment could involve several billion dollars because Citi's brokerage business now is larger and more profitable than that of Morgan Stanley.

The retail brokerage business isn't capital intensive, earns high returns on equity even in difficult periods, and doesn't involve big risks like proprietary trading. Morgan Stanley has indicated it's pulling back from that field.

The firm, with more than 8,000 brokers, has been viewed as being below an optimal scale. A deal with Citi for Smith Barney would make Morgan Stanley the No. 1 retail broker with more than 22,000 financial advisors, above Merrill Lynch's 16,000 and Wachovia's 15,000. Morgan Stanley ended its fiscal fourth quarter with 8,400 financial advisors, versus 14,700 at Smith Barney.

A deal for Smith Barney would offer further evidence of the allure of retail-brokerage franchises. Bank of America (BAC) bought Merrill Lynch largely because of B of A's desire to control Merrill's industry-leading retail brokerage business.

A key issue is price. Smith Barney earned $1.3 billion before taxes during 2007. It probably earned less than that in 2008 because of market declines that hurt fee income from wrap accounts. This suggests Smith Barney is worth $8 billion or more, which would be roughly 10 times after-tax income for 2007.

Morgan Stanley's wealth-management unit earned about $200 million before taxes and one-time charges in its fourth quarter of 2008, or $800 million annualized.

Wall Street has been wondering what to make of Morgan Stanley's retreat from proprietary trading since the firm telegraphed that approach in December. Some figured it would put Morgan Stanley further behind rival Goldman Sachs. Morgan Stanley sees it differently, emphasizing a sharp reduction in the size of its balance sheet and higher capital ratios.

A Smith Barney deal would signal the growing power inside Morgan Stanley of co-president Jim Gorman, who is credited with improving the financial performance and assets of the firm's formerly underperforming brokerage business since coming from Merrill Lynch in 2006. If the deal proves a winner, it could make Gorman a front-runner to succeed Morgan Stanley CEO John Mack in 2010, when Mack is expected to retire.

In trading Friday, Morgan Stanley gained 24 cents to 19.06 while Citi shares declined 41 cents to 6.75."

Barron's article by Andrew Bary

]]> Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:22:40 -0500
"Why 'Morgan Barney' Makes Sense

ONE OF MORGAN STANLEY'S key initiatives in the past few quarters has been to reduce its risk profile -- and the rumored talks Friday to merge its brokerage unit with Citigroup's (ticker: C) Smith Barney unit would advance that goal.

It's unclear how such a deal would be structured but it apparently would involve a payment by Morgan Stanley (MS) to Citi in order to give Morgan Stanley a 51% interest in the joint venture and an option to gain full ownership in five years. Such payment could involve several billion dollars because Citi's brokerage business now is larger and more profitable than that of Morgan Stanley.

The retail brokerage business isn't capital intensive, earns high returns on equity even in difficult periods, and doesn't involve big risks like proprietary trading. Morgan Stanley has indicated it's pulling back from that field.

The firm, with more than 8,000 brokers, has been viewed as being below an optimal scale. A deal with Citi for Smith Barney would make Morgan Stanley the No. 1 retail broker with more than 22,000 financial advisors, above Merrill Lynch's 16,000 and Wachovia's 15,000. Morgan Stanley ended its fiscal fourth quarter with 8,400 financial advisors, versus 14,700 at Smith Barney.

A deal for Smith Barney would offer further evidence of the allure of retail-brokerage franchises. Bank of America (BAC) bought Merrill Lynch largely because of B of A's desire to control Merrill's industry-leading retail brokerage business.

A key issue is price. Smith Barney earned $1.3 billion before taxes during 2007. It probably earned less than that in 2008 because of market declines that hurt fee income from wrap accounts. This suggests Smith Barney is worth $8 billion or more, which would be roughly 10 times after-tax income for 2007.

Morgan Stanley's wealth-management unit earned about $200 million before taxes and one-time charges in its fourth quarter of 2008, or $800 million annualized.

Wall Street has been wondering what to make of Morgan Stanley's retreat from proprietary trading since the firm telegraphed that approach in December. Some figured it would put Morgan Stanley further behind rival Goldman Sachs. Morgan Stanley sees it differently, emphasizing a sharp reduction in the size of its balance sheet and higher capital ratios.

A Smith Barney deal would signal the growing power inside Morgan Stanley of co-president Jim Gorman, who is credited with improving the financial performance and assets of the firm's formerly underperforming brokerage business since coming from Merrill Lynch in 2006. If the deal proves a winner, it could make Gorman a front-runner to succeed Morgan Stanley CEO John Mack in 2010, when Mack is expected to retire.

In trading Friday, Morgan Stanley gained 24 cents to 19.06 while Citi shares declined 41 cents to 6.75."

Barron's article by Andrew Bary

]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/114122-four-banks-to-bank-on-barron-s?source=feed#comment-352568 352568 From today's Marketwatch on it's assessment of the current market:

"Financials, whose enormous losses have helped drive S&P 500 earnings for six straight quarters of falling profits, may actually buffer some of the downturn in other sectors" (in the coming weeks).

Tradingmarkets.com comments that Monday may see an upturn in the financials that have been thus ignored.


]]> Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:04:11 -0500 From today's Marketwatch on it's assessment of the current market:

"Financials, whose enormous losses have helped drive S&P 500 earnings for six straight quarters of falling profits, may actually buffer some of the downturn in other sectors" (in the coming weeks).

Tradingmarkets.com comments that Monday may see an upturn in the financials that have been thus ignored.


]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/112322-the-technicals-say-it-s-time-for-oil?source=feed#comment-340491 340491 Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:55:33 -0500 http://seekingalpha.com/article/103676-had-enough-volatility-yet-direxion-set-to-launch-3x-leveraged-etfs?source=feed#comment-323920 323920 Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:40:10 -0500 http://seekingalpha.com/article/106143-highly-volatile-new-direxion-triple-etfs-could-revolution-day-trading?source=feed#comment-323918 323918 Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:37:24 -0500 http://seekingalpha.com/article/105263-direxion-launches-3x-leveraged-etfs?source=feed#comment-323912 323912 Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:35:06 -0500 http://seekingalpha.com/article/99556-lehman-cds-auction-ends-now-what?source=feed#comment-280606 280606 Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:03:23 -0400 http://seekingalpha.com/article/99546-hedge-fund-liquidations-bear-some-blame-for-market-drop?source=feed#comment-280588 280588 Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:51:04 -0400 http://seekingalpha.com/article/99234-potash-corp-liquidity-trouble-ahead?source=feed#comment-279604 279604 Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:32:12 -0400