pas, It has nothing to do with sour grapes. These facts were out there and anyone paying attention knew about them. Do you think that taking work away from P&W after a fair competition, not selling to Spirit and blocking C-17 sales to NATO was fair? And should we reward them with taxpayer dollars for doing so? I think not. Would you call all the protests that have been launched against contracts that Boeing won sour grapes? CSARX- KC135 mainteance. You can say Boeing lost but did John McCain help in that loss? He wrote the letters and sent the e-mails altering the requirements. Was this a fair competition with these new requirements? And if it was, did Boeing Management go in with a bravado attitude that ultimately did them in? It sounds like that is what hurt them in the UK competition. ______________________... www.businessweek.com/g... From the above article: Although each of these deals had unique elements, taken together they foreshadowed some of the difficulties Boeing now faces in the U.S. As a hungry newcomer, EADS was more willing to make concessions to win customers. For example, in Britain it agreed to assume much of the financial risk in building the planes, and then lease them to the government.
Boeing, accustomed to traditional procurement contracts, never offered such an arrangement, consultant Beaver says. The U.S. aerospace giant had worked on other British military programs, notably the C-17 transport plane, "which was handled by a different part of Boeing and has been very successful because they understood the culture," Beaver says. But "the tanker people appeared not to understand the British market." ______________________...
Actually one of my favorite sayings is: Hey there upper management. Remember that speech that you gave your employees about this being a GLOBAL MARKET. Just before you laid them off. Well dig out that speech (you will find it in the bottom left drawer under all your junk food). Go into the men's room where ther is plenty of light and a big mirror (don't forget your glasses). Now read that speech to yourself because you have just been outssourced in this global economy!
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It has nothing to do with sour grapes. These facts were out there and anyone paying attention knew about them. Do you think that taking work away from P&W after a fair competition, not selling to Spirit and blocking C-17 sales to NATO was fair? And should we reward them with taxpayer dollars for doing so? I think not. Would you call all the protests that have been launched against contracts that Boeing won sour grapes? CSARX- KC135 mainteance. You can say Boeing lost but did John McCain help in that loss? He wrote the letters and sent the e-mails altering the requirements. Was this a fair competition with these new requirements? And if it was, did Boeing Management go in with a bravado attitude that ultimately did them in? It sounds like that is what hurt them in the UK competition.
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www.businessweek.com/g...
From the above article:
Although each of these deals had unique elements, taken together they foreshadowed some of the difficulties Boeing now faces in the U.S. As a hungry newcomer, EADS was more willing to make concessions to win customers. For example, in Britain it agreed to assume much of the financial risk in building the planes, and then lease them to the government.
Boeing, accustomed to traditional procurement contracts, never offered such an arrangement, consultant Beaver says. The U.S. aerospace giant had worked on other British military programs, notably the C-17 transport plane, "which was handled by a different part of Boeing and has been very successful because they understood the culture," Beaver says. But "the tanker people appeared not to understand the British market."
______________________...
Actually one of my favorite sayings is:
Hey there upper management. Remember that speech that you gave your employees about this being a GLOBAL MARKET. Just before you laid them off. Well dig out that speech (you will find it in the bottom left drawer under all your junk food). Go into the men's room where ther is plenty of light and a big mirror (don't forget your glasses). Now read that speech to yourself because you have just been outssourced in this global economy!