Subprime is soooo 2007-2008. About a month ago I said that ETFC only has a chance if trust is regained. For that to happen you need time, which is running out, with the the 3rd phase of the 1st wave (subprime - arm option reset) about to hit the beaches simultanuously with wave 2 (durable) and wave 3 (non-durable). I said it at $4 and I say it again at $3: play this baby (pun intended) long under $2 and short above $5, with defined risk.
Well well this is getting interesting! Since what is happening here seems to be some sort of extrapolation on general sentiment I will make a serious effort to share my thoughts and observations with you all. Sit back and enjoy the ride.
First off though I want to state my position on ETFC, just so I won't be accused of being a pumper nor a basher. Currently I have no position in ETFC. When I said they will out-beta any index by 300-500% it should be clear that beta works either way. The $5-mark / 90% fail-break observation (and $2 for that matter) didn't get any feedback, which is a pity since it is one of the most overlooked yet reliable rules in the whole wide stock universe (valid even with optical plays such as reverse splitting).
Now for the real work, starting with the general state of affairs. In my opinion we haven't yet scrathed the surface of what will become a world of pain. The Dow is off by some 20%, peanuts, in EUR terms the Dow has been stuck, for 5 years running, around the 8k-10k mark. Currently it is at 8k (12307,35 * 0.65), and yes, as you perhaps had guessed already, I am European. That's what happens when the USD goes Zimbabwean. It is my belief that we're currently in the 2nd phase of the 1st wave (mortgage meldown). The 3rd and final phase will start shortly, with (Option) ARM reset. The second and third wave will come ashore this fall, they are durable-credit and non-durable credit, and these waves will be bigger, longer and have a much greater impact than the first wave, difficult to imagine as it is, because they will affect not just upside-down home-owners and financials, they will hit everybody. This is the real unwind, affecting people in mortgage-free houses too, and it will take at least a decade to work through it, possibly much more (just ask our harikiri friends how they are doing, some 20 years after the top). Cash will be king, which doesn't spell much good for stocks, and you can see Treasury yield ticking up already. Actually spiking up is a better name for it. Cash is getting more expensive regardless of the FED Funds Rate. FED up, that's what the market is.
Let's enter the financial subfield of brokerage now. I have no doubt that the ETFC platform is great, many people here attest to that. I have no idea but will take their word for it. Good for ETFC. The problem is that ETFC is a bank disguised as a broker. Cindy has been busy combing through the numbers, which in my opinion is useless, since we won't know what we won't know, Rumsfeld's unknown unknowns so to speak. Trust should be regained in that matter, which will take time, which is running out, as stated above. Also the longterm profitability of ETFC (per share) must somehow be factored in, and here it gets interesting. Some of you may have heart of VanderMoolen (MOO), a Dutch brokerage. They used to have American operations, since wound down / sold. Search for the stockchart of this puppy, it is almost a carbon-copy of ETFC. History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes. MOO currently stands at EUR 3,27, with a 12 month high/low of 4,29/1,75. All-time high was over €40 7 years ago. My point here is that the 2-5 rule, with a slight undershoot, is alive and kickin'. This week S&P upgraded ETFC. I won't go into S&P, apart from saying that whatever they think doesn't interest me in the least, just to be clear on that one. Cindy probably climaxed on that call, but the stock didn't, being exactly in the beta observation, 111m shorts included. It is my belief that almost all shorts above $5 have hedged by now, so I do not see a short squeeze above that level.
I am winding down Your Honor. If you ask me gun to head where ETFC will be in 2 year's time: $3,50. We will see $2 ánd $5. Since I have no idea which one will come first I will sideline until one of these levels is breached and then, with defined risk, will take a contrary position. Pumpbaby Cindy, and friends, will fade over time, although in the meantime they are mighty irritating. The relentless pumping was what triggered me to respond in the first place. ETFC the company I wish all the best, no grudges here, have made some money with it, not much, but my position wasn't big to begin with. Any questions?
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Dear Veronica,
If you have big brown eyes and a happy disposition I will concur with your chicken call. As to ETFC, my view is that it will out-beta the index (any index) by 300-500%, just because it is listed, not because of intrinsic value, which I believe to be a non-starter in this environment. And this environment will not go away anytime soon. In investing as in romance time will tell, in the meantime keep smiling!
E*Trade's 'First In, First Out' Position: Yes, 111M Shorts Can Be Wrong [View article]
Veronica, was that 10% down in 2 days a bankable fact? My point is that there appears to be an inverse relationship with regard to Cindy's incessant plugging and the share price, hence the "take a hike" advice. Also, she (and others) are marketing current conditions as t.h.e. low, well let me tell you we ain't seen nothing yet. Just suppose WM or C goes belly-up, or GE catches a cold to $23, or GM/F are collected to the Big Honcho in the sky, or the Naz craters, or the USD goes Zimbabwean, or or or, than we have Cindy plugging her love-baby at $1,60 and the herd still likin' it. E*Trade may be great (no idea, but generallly good comments) but the share-price is composed of many factors, some of them micro (the company itself) and some of them macro. And by the way, what I said about 90% of stock falling through $5 never regaining that level is a valid observation, we can argue chicken/egg here as to why, but we won't. Finally, I am trading this cracked fountain of hope, not investing in it, and no, I am not short in it and neither do I have puts or short calls. And a final finally, not all 111m shorts are at $4 and there's also no way of knowing if they have hedged their position, so that number in itself is not very instructive.
E*Trade's 'First In, First Out' Position: Yes, 111M Shorts Can Be Wrong [View article]
Darling,
You don't need to write yet another hysterical piece on your love-baby, no no, what you really need is a vacation, preferably somewhere with no internet access. Relax, have a Bud, get bronzed, let the hair hang loose, and enjoy life for a week or two. Clear up the mind and pamper the body. ETFC is going nowhere until some macro issues are dealt with and huge imbalances are worked out of the system. Will be over in a year or 10, so no use auto-mutilating your brain with each and every ETFC tick. I very much doubt ETFC will survive in the current form and even if they do that it will be profitable from $4 upwards, but hey what the heck do we care with the US financial and monetary system imploding all around us. From a statistical point of view: 90% of stocks that fall through $5 never regain that level. Basically the same thing applies to $2, so worry about that, but only after your (and our) vacation. Hasta la vista, bon bini, surf's up and all that, Your tourguide Orca
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Since what is happening here seems to be some sort of extrapolation on general sentiment I will make a serious effort to share my thoughts and observations with you all. Sit back and enjoy the ride.
First off though I want to state my position on ETFC, just so I won't be accused of being a pumper nor a basher. Currently I have no position in ETFC. When I said they will out-beta any index by 300-500% it should be clear that beta works either way. The $5-mark / 90% fail-break observation (and $2 for that matter) didn't get any feedback, which is a pity since it is one of the most overlooked yet reliable rules in the whole wide stock universe (valid even with optical plays such as reverse splitting).
Now for the real work, starting with the general state of affairs. In my opinion we haven't yet scrathed the surface of what will become a world of pain. The Dow is off by some 20%, peanuts, in EUR terms the Dow has been stuck, for 5 years running, around the 8k-10k mark. Currently it is at 8k (12307,35 * 0.65), and yes, as you perhaps had guessed already, I am European. That's what happens when the USD goes Zimbabwean. It is my belief that we're currently in the 2nd phase of the 1st wave (mortgage meldown). The 3rd and final phase will start shortly, with (Option) ARM reset. The second and third wave will come ashore this fall, they are durable-credit and non-durable credit, and these waves will be bigger, longer and have a much greater impact than the first wave, difficult to imagine as it is, because they will affect not just upside-down home-owners and financials, they will hit everybody. This is the real unwind, affecting people in mortgage-free houses too, and it will take at least a decade to work through it, possibly much more (just ask our harikiri friends how they are doing, some 20 years after the top). Cash will be king, which doesn't spell much good for stocks, and you can see Treasury yield ticking up already. Actually spiking up is a better name for it. Cash is getting more expensive regardless of the FED Funds Rate. FED up, that's what the market is.
Let's enter the financial subfield of brokerage now. I have no doubt that the ETFC platform is great, many people here attest to that. I have no idea but will take their word for it. Good for ETFC. The problem is that ETFC is a bank disguised as a broker. Cindy has been busy combing through the numbers, which in my opinion is useless, since we won't know what we won't know, Rumsfeld's unknown unknowns so to speak. Trust should be regained in that matter, which will take time, which is running out, as stated above.
Also the longterm profitability of ETFC (per share) must somehow be factored in, and here it gets interesting. Some of you may have heart of VanderMoolen (MOO), a Dutch brokerage. They used to have American operations, since wound down / sold. Search for the stockchart of this puppy, it is almost a carbon-copy of ETFC. History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes. MOO currently stands at EUR 3,27, with a 12 month high/low of 4,29/1,75. All-time high was over €40 7 years ago. My point here is that the 2-5 rule, with a slight undershoot, is alive and kickin'.
This week S&P upgraded ETFC. I won't go into S&P, apart from saying that whatever they think doesn't interest me in the least, just to be clear on that one. Cindy probably climaxed on that call, but the stock didn't, being exactly in the beta observation, 111m shorts included. It is my belief that almost all shorts above $5 have hedged by now, so I do not see a short squeeze above that level.
I am winding down Your Honor. If you ask me gun to head where ETFC will be in 2 year's time: $3,50. We will see $2 ánd $5. Since I have no idea which one will come first I will sideline until one of these levels is breached and then, with defined risk, will take a contrary position. Pumpbaby Cindy, and friends, will fade over time, although in the meantime they are mighty irritating. The relentless pumping was what triggered me to respond in the first place. ETFC the company I wish all the best, no grudges here, have made some money with it, not much, but my position wasn't big to begin with. Any questions?
E*Trade's 'First In, First Out' Position: Yes, 111M Shorts Can Be Wrong [View article]
If you have big brown eyes and a happy disposition I will concur with your chicken call. As to ETFC, my view is that it will out-beta the index (any index) by 300-500%, just because it is listed, not because of intrinsic value, which I believe to be a non-starter in this environment. And this environment will not go away anytime soon.
In investing as in romance time will tell, in the meantime keep smiling!
E*Trade's 'First In, First Out' Position: Yes, 111M Shorts Can Be Wrong [View article]
E*Trade may be great (no idea, but generallly good comments) but the share-price is composed of many factors, some of them micro (the company itself) and some of them macro. And by the way, what I said about 90% of stock falling through $5 never regaining that level is a valid observation, we can argue chicken/egg here as to why, but we won't.
Finally, I am trading this cracked fountain of hope, not investing in it, and no, I am not short in it and neither do I have puts or short calls.
And a final finally, not all 111m shorts are at $4 and there's also no way of knowing if they have hedged their position, so that number in itself is not very instructive.
E*Trade's 'First In, First Out' Position: Yes, 111M Shorts Can Be Wrong [View article]
You don't need to write yet another hysterical piece on your love-baby, no no, what you really need is a vacation, preferably somewhere with no internet access. Relax, have a Bud, get bronzed, let the hair hang loose, and enjoy life for a week or two. Clear up the mind and pamper the body. ETFC is going nowhere until some macro issues are dealt with and huge imbalances are worked out of the system. Will be over in a year or 10, so no use auto-mutilating your brain with each and every ETFC tick. I very much doubt ETFC will survive in the current form and even if they do that it will be profitable from $4 upwards, but hey what the heck do we care with the US financial and monetary system imploding all around us. From a statistical point of view: 90% of stocks that fall through $5 never regain that level. Basically the same thing applies to $2, so worry about that, but only after your (and our) vacation.
Hasta la vista, bon bini, surf's up and all that,
Your tourguide
Orca