Your comments on China's financial system are very correct, but as long as China has such large share of exports and the trade surplus is rising; they have a great deal of money they can waste. Bailing out banking system really would not impact government finances on medium or long term basis. Short term it would get ugly. But China has necessary reserves to do so.
Also some chinese politicians have stated they will aim for 2 trillion worth of loans next year as well. If that happens then we really see a spike in NPL's. It is accurate to predict quite serious financial fallout if this happens.
Things look at bit rocky, If the global markets get hit. I think china will fall pretty hard, but only short term. Infact a little financial system problem now could be quite healthy for China medium and long term.
If excesses are allowed to build and structural change does not happen without a short term corrcetion now. Then we could see longer terms problems.
Of course the advantage with holding down everyones wages i that investment wastage on projects where few make it big take longer to come back as bad investments.
If the Dong falls another 20% against other currencies, it will be a very wise move to fly there and buy some property or dong denominated assets. Make a nice holiday.
I am not entirely sure why the Vietnam government did not devalue the dong by 30% 5 months ago. Then peg it to dollar. Can you imagine the amount of new manufacturers that would go there. And the holiday visitors
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Come on Mr Richman. We know you feel strongly about China's trade practices. But believe me putting Warren Buffet at the healm is not going to help bring trade deficit down. Can you imagine the conflicts of interest here!!
I figure Obama is going to replace Geithner because he has no real guaanxi to talk about and quite frankly knows f**k all about how to get the Chinese to play a little fairer. I also figure that Obama is more interested in opening up China's financial system as apposed to trade wars. Who better to do this, than a banker? One who has spent time in China.
If it was upto me I think I would put someone from Asian or African decent. White people antagonise the Chinese far too easily. Especially Amercian white people.
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Wow, you are a very smart guy Patrick. I know a huge amount about China, its culture and am very very well travelled.
But I am pale into comparsion to you. Please please keep on posting further pieces to this article.
Very interested for you to start breaking down and talking about the new trends emerging in the nine nations. Hangzhou developing into financial backend (administration) centre to support Shanghai's as the front end financial operator.
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this is a very good article... can the masters of the universe hold back the tides indeed.
of coruse as negative as all this is, if the OECD countries can generate enrgey using clean technology and take away flows of USD to the oil countries. Then we could see a re-emergence of wealth back to the west. Also if the west shuts off imports into their markets, more domestic manufacturing could fuel added value in the western economies.
The point here is that the USA has more faith in making money in the Chinese market and by doing so become closer to China. Then to block off chinese exports and make them in their own country.
I agree that the asset bubbles created a veil of untruth and hid the underlying weaknesses of the west economies but be clear these asset bubbles were financed by the east as well. So in effect the east paid a great deal towards this fake wealth. Also the IT and technology revolution did add a great deal of real value to the western economies.
Innovation and technological advancement adds so much to an economy. More than economists can ever believe. This is why R+D pays off. The USA strategy of getting low value added goods madeinthe East while spending its time/money on R+D may pay off.
From where the US is standing I belive they know they have to create real value added to their economy. So I do not think their arrogance is blinding them. They better hurry up and they better hope they can generate 2-3 trillion/year from clean energy. If they create enough money through QE and hyperinflate the money supply by 100-150%. Then in 2020 they may be able to wipe out all their debt.
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Yes Dixon,
Purchasing power of US consumers is taking a hit as credit is being withdrawn. However it US consumer purchasing power was at such highs this had to happen. After all a few years ago, people with very low monthly income had the ability to buy exceptionally expensive properties with no downpayment. In China if you have no money, you can eat with no problem but you can not buy things like high end computer goods, cars and certainly/certainly not property. You have people earning 1000USD/Month buying 600 000USD houses. Bloody rediculous.
This being said the USA will trade its way out of trouble, but by the time it does so. China would have cemented its power as number two.
Why Krugman Is Wrong About the Yuan [View article]
I like your work Shaun, I have great optimism like yourself for the consumer economy in China. I agree with a lot of your work.
I have to say however I do not agree with what you have stated in this article. The USD is not weak on any long-term relative basis, purachins power basis. If you look at long term currency charts you will see it is exactly in the middle of its range. Not expensive, not cheap. Not high, not low.
You also go to say that the market is taking the USD lower due to its structural imbalance. High trade deficits, budget deficits etc. This by your own definition means you understand that fundamentalyl the USD is stronger than it should be. The truth is the USD is overvalued because Asian countries are running large trade surpluses and buying the USD, this is artifical demand because the Asian currencies are weakening their currencies by buying the USD. This is the source of the problem as a lot of Asian currencies are not based on market pricing mechanism. We all know that the USD is maniuplated by the FED through polciy from time-time. But this is different from direct peg and guided price levels.
The point here that has been missed is that Obama is ok with the RMB-USD exchange rate. As long as it goes in the right direction. 4-5% revaluing per year is exactly what Obama wants. Anything more than that will create huge issues for US companies, inflation (important when you are creating new money through QE) and the funding mechanism for the US through selling Treasury Bonds. You have said this but missed that Obama is playing lip service to hide the fact that the Europeans are being forced to take the adjustment. The USD is falling against Euro, pegged to the Yuan means that Chinese goods in Euros are cheaper. And US goods are cheaper in Euros. The US and China share common goals in this respect, I would dare to say that both parties know this at the top level.
The US does have a lot to export to China but the exports are being blocked through protectionism. Import tariffs, lack of access to supply chains, no way in to distrubution networks, technology requirements that shut US companies out, subsidy loans, local laws that require joint ventures be set up (always bad for interntional partner). This is the true issue that Obama is focusiing on. The rmb is a red herring. It allows China to show it is not bowing down to US pressure, so Hu and Wen can keep face inside the Politburo and to the nation. It also gives them a little more room to allow some advantage to the US in China's rise.
Relations between the two countries are probably better than most people think. However there are very large risks, after all Hu and Wen do not hold all the power and there are a lot of right wing policitcans abd business leaders that want to see China hold all the cards in everyway. Hu knows that the best tactic is to concede some ground in negotiations, so's not to start a trade war with the US (its best customer). Being a surplus country starting trade wars with the main party who is a deficit country does not make sense. This has nothing to do with the China-US arguement, just pure economics.
The RMB is 15-20% undervalued due to the amount fo USD reserves it holds. The USD is overvalued, in part because one of its largest trading partners, China holds a peg.
Expect 5% revaluing on the Yuan per year for next three years. Expect USD to go down a little lower, before making long term base. If this does not happen there will be serious trade wars and the US may retailate not by stamping duties of chinese imports but destroying the value of the dollar.
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In terms of the small banks, they will be gobbled up by big banks so the FDIC does not get itself under water anymore. Then when things stabilise these super banks will be split up. No doubt they will be split up but the offshore holding companies will have interconnected ownership, so in effect they will seem like they are less risky to the system. But if the shit hits the fan, the cross holdings will create the same rush to the door as the last crisis we have seen.
Roubini Says 'Don't Forget About Me' [View article]
I like intellectuals, A Sexual, no emotions, no transference. They judge on what they see, not who they are inside.
Roubini is very smart but internally morbid. Guys like this always are perma-bears.
Whitney is a strong women, so wants to be right all the time. Putting down her male colleagues in the industry motivates a lot of her calls.
The market will move to 10 700, then sell off back down to 10 000. It will hold 10 000. If it does not more liquidity will be put into the system. There is enough liquidity in the system anyway, so it will hold 10 000. Dollar will make its low around 10 700 and they trade sideways. Gold will make its high when market is sitting up at 10 700. It will be interesting how this sells off.
Maybe we will get winter of storage as apposed to winter of discontent. Whatever way expect boring 2/3 months ahead.
Check-Up on China and the Baltic Dry [View article]
The question is, is the Baltic at new highs because shipping companies have cut capacity and routes. The shipping industry has colluded and it working together to manipulate freight transit rates. So to me the baltic index is just a manifestation of the reduced capacity when the west is restocking for christmas.
China's exports have been ok the last 2-3 months. Not great, not as bad as last year. The Shanghai market is awash with liquidity. The Shanghai property market is awash with liquidity.
Hot money flows are quite high. Savings are coming out the bank.
China Currency Issue: A Red Herring [View article]
Blah Blah Blah Blah.... Blah Blah Blah Blah...
The USA does not care about China's fx policy. If China was to allow its currency to strengthen, they would have to sell USD Debt. That would take the value of the USD down too quickly and make the USA funding ever harder at a time that ample liquidity is needed in this market.
The USA is taking its currency down against other currencies to improve its trade deficit. By China keeping the peg with the USD and the US taking its currency down against the Euro. What is happening is that Europe is taking the burden of the adjustment. The USA is happy to let China slowly revalue the Yuan, instead pressing for access to its financial sector and to allow the USA multinationals to get a piece of the pie. Think Boeing/GM.
The US has to make out that it is trying to get China to revalue, or Europe its main ally will get frustrated and annoyed. The US knows that the currency is not the big issue. But the main issue is protectionism on every leval, subsidising the manufacturing sector and various trade barriers. The US also knows that China is scared of devaluing its currency after what happend to Japan after the Plaza accord. The US knows China does not want this to happen to them and they fear being forced to, so will not press too hard even if they wanted swift re-balancing. Which they don't. To reblance trade, China just needs to stop blocking US products and give fair access. Simple as that..
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A rapid 'excessive' expansion of credit = instability in the banking system = financial crisis.
This is certainly the truth. The higher the wastage resulting from expansion of credit, the higher the chances of instability in the banking system from balance sheet issues. Which of course leads to financial crisis due to the connectedness of the system.
We have as yet no proven that the expansion of credit in China is excessive. Yes the numbers are huge, but so is China's saving. I would say as large as the expansion has been, in ratio terms against domestic savings. The numbers have really not been that big. This ratio is the true way to decipher how large expansion of credit has been.
Insteas of a financial crisis, the most likely outcome of this lending boom is stagnation as the chinese savings are eaten up from all the bad loans in the banking system. I get the sense that as long as savings stay high and china maintains its trade advantage. We will not get the bust everyone predicts.
Saying this China does face a number of important destabilising forces. One of which is its aging population, so it better keep its investment wastage under control. Of course investment in a developing economy with the 1.3 billion people is easier to keep under control than a developed nation that is in debt that wastes money day in day out on things they dont need.
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Also some chinese politicians have stated they will aim for 2 trillion worth of loans next year as well. If that happens then we really see a spike in NPL's. It is accurate to predict quite serious financial fallout if this happens.
Things look at bit rocky, If the global markets get hit. I think china will fall pretty hard, but only short term. Infact a little financial system problem now could be quite healthy for China medium and long term.
If excesses are allowed to build and structural change does not happen without a short term corrcetion now. Then we could see longer terms problems.
Of course the advantage with holding down everyones wages i that investment wastage on projects where few make it big take longer to come back as bad investments.
all very interesting..
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I am not entirely sure why the Vietnam government did not devalue the dong by 30% 5 months ago. Then peg it to dollar. Can you imagine the amount of new manufacturers that would go there. And the holiday visitors
Never mind...
lets do it this way
Will Obama Replace Geithner with Dimon? [View article]
I figure Obama is going to replace Geithner because he has no real guaanxi to talk about and quite frankly knows f**k all about how to get the Chinese to play a little fairer. I also figure that Obama is more interested in opening up China's financial system as apposed to trade wars. Who better to do this, than a banker? One who has spent time in China.
If it was upto me I think I would put someone from Asian or African decent. White people antagonise the Chinese far too easily.
Especially Amercian white people.
Investing in China: Why the Nine Nations Matter [View article]
I know a huge amount about China, its culture and am very very well travelled.
But I am pale into comparsion to you.
Please please keep on posting further pieces to this article.
Very interested for you to start breaking down and talking about the new trends emerging in the nine nations. Hangzhou developing into financial backend (administration) centre to support Shanghai's as the front end financial operator.
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be careful, especially emerging markets
The King Canute Economy: Governments' Futile Attempt to Stem the Tide [View article]
can the masters of the universe hold back the tides indeed.
of coruse as negative as all this is, if the OECD countries can generate enrgey using clean technology and take away flows of USD to the oil countries. Then we could see a re-emergence of wealth back to the west. Also if the west shuts off imports into their markets, more domestic manufacturing could fuel added value in the western economies.
The point here is that the USA has more faith in making money in the Chinese market and by doing so become closer to China. Then to block off chinese exports and make them in their own country.
I agree that the asset bubbles created a veil of untruth and hid the underlying weaknesses of the west economies but be clear these asset bubbles were financed by the east as well. So in effect the east paid a great deal towards this fake wealth. Also the IT and technology revolution did add a great deal of real value to the western economies.
Innovation and technological advancement adds so much to an economy. More than economists can ever believe. This is why R+D pays off. The USA strategy of getting low value added goods madeinthe East while spending its time/money on R+D may pay off.
From where the US is standing I belive they know they have to create real value added to their economy. So I do not think their arrogance is blinding them. They better hurry up and they better hope they can generate 2-3 trillion/year from clean energy. If they create enough money through QE and hyperinflate the money supply by 100-150%. Then in 2020 they may be able to wipe out all their debt.
Why Krugman Is Wrong About the Yuan [View article]
Purchasing power of US consumers is taking a hit as credit is being withdrawn. However it US consumer purchasing power was at such highs this had to happen. After all a few years ago, people with very low monthly income had the ability to buy exceptionally expensive properties with no downpayment. In China if you have no money, you can eat with no problem but you can not buy things like high end computer goods, cars and certainly/certainly not property. You have people earning 1000USD/Month buying 600 000USD houses. Bloody rediculous.
This being said the USA will trade its way out of trouble, but by the time it does so. China would have cemented its power as number two.
Why Krugman Is Wrong About the Yuan [View article]
I have to say however I do not agree with what you have stated in this article. The USD is not weak on any long-term relative basis, purachins power basis. If you look at long term currency charts you will see it is exactly in the middle of its range. Not expensive, not cheap. Not high, not low.
You also go to say that the market is taking the USD lower due to its structural imbalance. High trade deficits, budget deficits etc. This by your own definition means you understand that fundamentalyl the USD is stronger than it should be. The truth is the USD is overvalued because Asian countries are running large trade surpluses and buying the USD, this is artifical demand because the Asian currencies are weakening their currencies by buying the USD. This is the source of the problem as a lot of Asian currencies are not based on market pricing mechanism. We all know that the USD is maniuplated by the FED through polciy from time-time. But this is different from direct peg and guided price levels.
The point here that has been missed is that Obama is ok with the RMB-USD exchange rate. As long as it goes in the right direction. 4-5% revaluing per year is exactly what Obama wants. Anything more than that will create huge issues for US companies, inflation (important when you are creating new money through QE) and the funding mechanism for the US through selling Treasury Bonds. You have said this but missed that Obama is playing lip service to hide the fact that the Europeans are being forced to take the adjustment. The USD is falling against Euro, pegged to the Yuan means that Chinese goods in Euros are cheaper. And US goods are cheaper in Euros. The US and China share common goals in this respect, I would dare to say that both parties know this at the top level.
The US does have a lot to export to China but the exports are being blocked through protectionism. Import tariffs, lack of access to supply chains, no way in to distrubution networks, technology requirements that shut US companies out, subsidy loans, local laws that require joint ventures be set up (always bad for interntional partner). This is the true issue that Obama is focusiing on. The rmb is a red herring. It allows China to show it is not bowing down to US pressure, so Hu and Wen can keep face inside the Politburo and to the nation. It also gives them a little more room to allow some advantage to the US in China's rise.
Relations between the two countries are probably better than most people think. However there are very large risks, after all Hu and Wen do not hold all the power and there are a lot of right wing policitcans abd business leaders that want to see China hold all the cards in everyway. Hu knows that the best tactic is to concede some ground in negotiations, so's not to start a trade war with the US (its best customer). Being a surplus country starting trade wars with the main party who is a deficit country does not make sense. This has nothing to do with the China-US arguement, just pure economics.
The RMB is 15-20% undervalued due to the amount fo USD reserves it holds. The USD is overvalued, in part because one of its largest trading partners, China holds a peg.
Expect 5% revaluing on the Yuan per year for next three years.
Expect USD to go down a little lower, before making long term base. If this does not happen there will be serious trade wars and the US may retailate not by stamping duties of chinese imports but destroying the value of the dollar.
All very interesting
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better still look at my comments of the unfloding of China as I see it day-day,
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Roubini Says 'Don't Forget About Me' [View article]
They judge on what they see, not who they are inside.
Roubini is very smart but internally morbid.
Guys like this always are perma-bears.
Whitney is a strong women, so wants to be right all the time.
Putting down her male colleagues in the industry motivates a lot of her calls.
The market will move to 10 700, then sell off back down to 10 000.
It will hold 10 000. If it does not more liquidity will be put into the system. There is enough liquidity in the system anyway, so it will hold 10 000. Dollar will make its low around 10 700 and they trade sideways. Gold will make its high when market is sitting up at 10 700. It will be interesting how this sells off.
Maybe we will get winter of storage as apposed to winter of discontent. Whatever way expect boring 2/3 months ahead.
Check-Up on China and the Baltic Dry [View article]
China's exports have been ok the last 2-3 months.
Not great, not as bad as last year.
The Shanghai market is awash with liquidity.
The Shanghai property market is awash with liquidity.
Hot money flows are quite high.
Savings are coming out the bank.
Expect things to slow down as we enter winter,
China Currency Issue: A Red Herring [View article]
Blah Blah Blah Blah...
The USA does not care about China's fx policy. If China was to allow its currency to strengthen, they would have to sell USD Debt. That would take the value of the USD down too quickly and make the USA funding ever harder at a time that ample liquidity is needed in this market.
The USA is taking its currency down against other currencies to improve its trade deficit. By China keeping the peg with the USD and the US taking its currency down against the Euro. What is happening is that Europe is taking the burden of the adjustment. The USA is happy to let China slowly revalue the Yuan, instead pressing for access to its financial sector and to allow the USA multinationals to get a piece of the pie. Think Boeing/GM.
The US has to make out that it is trying to get China to revalue, or Europe its main ally will get frustrated and annoyed. The US knows that the currency is not the big issue. But the main issue is protectionism on every leval, subsidising the manufacturing sector and various trade barriers. The US also knows that China is scared of devaluing its currency after what happend to Japan after the Plaza accord. The US knows China does not want this to happen to them and they fear being forced to, so will not press too hard even if they wanted swift re-balancing. Which they don't. To reblance trade, China just needs to stop blocking US products and give fair access. Simple as that..
Love you work Patrick,
U.S. and China: Lecturing Each Other on Trade [View article]
This is certainly the truth. The higher the wastage resulting from expansion of credit, the higher the chances of instability in the banking system from balance sheet issues. Which of course leads to financial crisis due to the connectedness of the system.
We have as yet no proven that the expansion of credit in China is excessive. Yes the numbers are huge, but so is China's saving. I would say as large as the expansion has been, in ratio terms against domestic savings. The numbers have really not been that big. This ratio is the true way to decipher how large expansion of credit has been.
Insteas of a financial crisis, the most likely outcome of this lending boom is stagnation as the chinese savings are eaten up from all the bad loans in the banking system. I get the sense that as long as savings stay high and china maintains its trade advantage. We will not get the bust everyone predicts.
Saying this China does face a number of important destabilising forces. One of which is its aging population, so it better keep its investment wastage under control. Of course investment in a developing economy with the 1.3 billion people is easier to keep under control than a developed nation that is in debt that wastes money day in day out on things they dont need.
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Chin after all has printed some serious amount of yuan over the last few years.