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On Dec 20 09:25 PM Tempo dulu wrote:

> We have more coal than any nation on earth. Why are we importing
> oil from the Middle East when we can as cheaply and more cleanly
> convert coal to liquid fuels?
>
> - therein lies the false assumption. Coal CANNOT cheaply be converted
> into a liquid fuel. If it could everyone would be doing it. Coal
> is dirty and black, hazardous to health and a nightmare for the environment.
> Alternative solutions - solar, etc - are a better option.]]> Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:24:49 -0500

On Dec 20 09:25 PM Tempo dulu wrote:

> We have more coal than any nation on earth. Why are we importing
> oil from the Middle East when we can as cheaply and more cleanly
> convert coal to liquid fuels?
>
> - therein lies the false assumption. Coal CANNOT cheaply be converted
> into a liquid fuel. If it could everyone would be doing it. Coal
> is dirty and black, hazardous to health and a nightmare for the environment.
> Alternative solutions - solar, etc - are a better option.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/178787-you-say-fossil-fuels-i-say-future-fuels?source=feed#comment-814343 814343 Then, it is OK that 100's of acres of forest are being slashed and burned each second. The tons of CO2 released into the atmosphere each second are justified because they ain't gonna be fossils for millions of years. In a few years there will be renewable energy grown where the great CO2 sinks were.

"A regulated free market...isn't that what everyone wants? "
No, everyone wants to make a lot of money, now.]]> Sun, 20 Dec 2009 10:06:38 -0500 Then, it is OK that 100's of acres of forest are being slashed and burned each second. The tons of CO2 released into the atmosphere each second are justified because they ain't gonna be fossils for millions of years. In a few years there will be renewable energy grown where the great CO2 sinks were.

"A regulated free market...isn't that what everyone wants? "
No, everyone wants to make a lot of money, now.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/178787-you-say-fossil-fuels-i-say-future-fuels?source=feed#comment-813715 813715 Believer?
Skeptic?
Denier?
Neutral?
Opportunist?

What a second, what was the original question?
What's the difference between Global Warming and Climate Change?
What does green, clean, organic, renewable, non-renewable mean?
What was the start and finish of that chart? Which controlled which? What if you substitute O2 for CO2? Why didn't it end where we are? I really want to know. I'm still waiting for real data, not people calling each other names.

Like you said, Does it matter whether CO2 comes from me breathing, that cow breathing, that BBQ grill, opening that cola bottle, driving to work, speeding for the hell of it, raining on the caliche road that leads to my house, the catalytic converter in my car, making peanut brittle?
Before we discuss climate change, maybe we should define the words we use or all will be meaningless.
I'm not laughing, no matter what anyone says.]]> Sat, 19 Dec 2009 15:43:46 -0500 Believer?
Skeptic?
Denier?
Neutral?
Opportunist?

What a second, what was the original question?
What's the difference between Global Warming and Climate Change?
What does green, clean, organic, renewable, non-renewable mean?
What was the start and finish of that chart? Which controlled which? What if you substitute O2 for CO2? Why didn't it end where we are? I really want to know. I'm still waiting for real data, not people calling each other names.

Like you said, Does it matter whether CO2 comes from me breathing, that cow breathing, that BBQ grill, opening that cola bottle, driving to work, speeding for the hell of it, raining on the caliche road that leads to my house, the catalytic converter in my car, making peanut brittle?
Before we discuss climate change, maybe we should define the words we use or all will be meaningless.
I'm not laughing, no matter what anyone says.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/178737-which-green-stocks-will-be-the-last-standing?source=feed#comment-813645 813645
We were happy to pollute like mad (see 1960s, 1970s) when it was convenient to our growth and now we dictate to India and China they should not do what we do? Are we that holier than thou? Its hypocritical."

When we polluted in the 60's and 70's, we were blocking the sun and impeding global warming. Maybe it is their turn to cool the Earth. Maybe it will counter our trying to melt glaciers. It was the 70's when the US government started the push to produce more CO2 and less particulates. We are still stuck in this mode while trying cut back with the other hand. What are we doing besides inventing means to make money out of nothing? There are no resources left on the Earth, so we make air a resource. The current situation reminds me of an old "Three Stooges" movie, but I can't remember the name. Can someone help?]]> Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:46:24 -0500
We were happy to pollute like mad (see 1960s, 1970s) when it was convenient to our growth and now we dictate to India and China they should not do what we do? Are we that holier than thou? Its hypocritical."

When we polluted in the 60's and 70's, we were blocking the sun and impeding global warming. Maybe it is their turn to cool the Earth. Maybe it will counter our trying to melt glaciers. It was the 70's when the US government started the push to produce more CO2 and less particulates. We are still stuck in this mode while trying cut back with the other hand. What are we doing besides inventing means to make money out of nothing? There are no resources left on the Earth, so we make air a resource. The current situation reminds me of an old "Three Stooges" movie, but I can't remember the name. Can someone help?]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/178395-why-exxonmobil-took-the-nat-gas-plunge-now?source=feed#comment-813590 813590 If they venture into the earthquake scenario, they will have to explain why, when the US government frac'd with nuclear bombs in Colorado, they did not produce earthquakes.


On Dec 17 02:18 AM T. Boone wrote:


> ps.... disclosure: I own a ton of xto-- sure hope Congress doesn't
> mess with this deal.]]> Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:12:40 -0500 If they venture into the earthquake scenario, they will have to explain why, when the US government frac'd with nuclear bombs in Colorado, they did not produce earthquakes.


On Dec 17 02:18 AM T. Boone wrote:


> ps.... disclosure: I own a ton of xto-- sure hope Congress doesn't
> mess with this deal.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/178787-you-say-fossil-fuels-i-say-future-fuels?source=feed#comment-813546 813546

On Dec 18 01:41 PM Doug K wrote:


Why aren't our auto industries investing in diesel autos? ]]> Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:40:01 -0500

On Dec 18 01:41 PM Doug K wrote:


Why aren't our auto industries investing in diesel autos? ]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/178787-you-say-fossil-fuels-i-say-future-fuels?source=feed#comment-813526 813526 GM has cars that get better mileage and lower emissions than foreign competitors. Watching ads for foreign cars, it is obvious they are trying to sell the car with the brightest lights, that can go 160 mph while letting you text, use your GPS and look at old pictures of your kids, listen to your favorite music, and as a bonus, be safety conscious by knowing where the police radars are located. Watch GM and foreign car ads before making a 30-year-old knee-jerk statement. PS: You and I are GM, so we are on a path of destruction if you are right.


On Dec 18 11:19 AM LaChic wrote:

> GM, continues towards the path of destruction and has not DONE a
> thing to go green, or to make smaller cars.]]> Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:23:37 -0500 GM has cars that get better mileage and lower emissions than foreign competitors. Watching ads for foreign cars, it is obvious they are trying to sell the car with the brightest lights, that can go 160 mph while letting you text, use your GPS and look at old pictures of your kids, listen to your favorite music, and as a bonus, be safety conscious by knowing where the police radars are located. Watch GM and foreign car ads before making a 30-year-old knee-jerk statement. PS: You and I are GM, so we are on a path of destruction if you are right.


On Dec 18 11:19 AM LaChic wrote:

> GM, continues towards the path of destruction and has not DONE a
> thing to go green, or to make smaller cars.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/131641-unconventional-natural-gas-just-a-frac-away?source=feed#comment-813430 813430
Gas companies spend a lot of time making sure their profit doesn't percolate up. There are down hole tools that can actually map out where the fractures are being made. i.e., if they just spent over a million dollars to drill and complete a gas well, do they want to lose gas to other formations and/or maybe lose the well?


On Oct 11 01:23 AM User 498683 wrote:

> What about methane rising through the cracked rock and contaminating
> groundwater? That appears to be what happened in a few places already.
> I don't think enough is known about the long term problems of this
> hydraulic hydrofracking technology. Also, I believe that the author
> is wrong when he states that they only use sand and water. Typically
> shale formations require the addition of toxic chemicals to the frac
> slurry as the characteristics of shale are quite different than sandstone;
> one can not use just sand and water.]]> Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:50:16 -0500
Gas companies spend a lot of time making sure their profit doesn't percolate up. There are down hole tools that can actually map out where the fractures are being made. i.e., if they just spent over a million dollars to drill and complete a gas well, do they want to lose gas to other formations and/or maybe lose the well?


On Oct 11 01:23 AM User 498683 wrote:

> What about methane rising through the cracked rock and contaminating
> groundwater? That appears to be what happened in a few places already.
> I don't think enough is known about the long term problems of this
> hydraulic hydrofracking technology. Also, I believe that the author
> is wrong when he states that they only use sand and water. Typically
> shale formations require the addition of toxic chemicals to the frac
> slurry as the characteristics of shale are quite different than sandstone;
> one can not use just sand and water.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/178241-mind-over-matter-oil-coal-dependence-vs-alternative-energy?source=feed#comment-813412 813412
Where I am at now, I go to an Exxon station to refill propane. They charge me by the gallon. It usually comes out to $17 +/- $1. In the last place we lived, it cost $24 whether they put in 1 gallon or 7 gallons. If I go to a convenience store, I can get a container half the size of mine for $50. realityresearcher - you were just trash talking for the sake of trash talking, weren't you?]]> Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:13:54 -0500
Where I am at now, I go to an Exxon station to refill propane. They charge me by the gallon. It usually comes out to $17 +/- $1. In the last place we lived, it cost $24 whether they put in 1 gallon or 7 gallons. If I go to a convenience store, I can get a container half the size of mine for $50. realityresearcher - you were just trash talking for the sake of trash talking, weren't you?]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/178134-climategate-emissions-and-the-energy-market?source=feed#comment-813408 813408 If they have a carbon tax, I eat spaghetti and run a marathon, I owe a lot of taxes for polluting the Earth. ]]> Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:00:25 -0500 If they have a carbon tax, I eat spaghetti and run a marathon, I owe a lot of taxes for polluting the Earth. ]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/178787-you-say-fossil-fuels-i-say-future-fuels?source=feed#comment-813315 813315

On Dec 19 06:48 AM jaimemotta wrote:

> Better trust in engineers than in politics. They can resolve problems,
> polictics only take advantage of problems]]> Sat, 19 Dec 2009 09:10:06 -0500

On Dec 19 06:48 AM jaimemotta wrote:

> Better trust in engineers than in politics. They can resolve problems,
> polictics only take advantage of problems]]> http://seekingalpha.com/news/market_currents/post/38430?source=feed#comment-813069 813069 Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:45:23 -0500 http://seekingalpha.com/article/178241-mind-over-matter-oil-coal-dependence-vs-alternative-energy?source=feed#comment-813056 813056

On Dec 16 01:06 PM iggyDalrymple wrote:

> re Heinberg's mention of 'reforestation'.
>
> "The United States still has 70% of the forest land it had in pre-colonial
> times. The decline in U.S. forest land area stabilized shortly after
> 1900, following the end of widespread agricultural clearing, and
> has remained relatively constant since."
> www.hardwoodforest.org...;ID2=FAQ]]> Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:17:10 -0500

On Dec 16 01:06 PM iggyDalrymple wrote:

> re Heinberg's mention of 'reforestation'.
>
> "The United States still has 70% of the forest land it had in pre-colonial
> times. The decline in U.S. forest land area stabilized shortly after
> 1900, following the end of widespread agricultural clearing, and
> has remained relatively constant since."
> www.hardwoodforest.org...;ID2=FAQ]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/178241-mind-over-matter-oil-coal-dependence-vs-alternative-energy?source=feed#comment-813044 813044 But then, gas stations have never made a profit selling fuel. Thank goodness for cigarettes and beer.


On Dec 16 02:28 PM realityresearcher wrote:

> John Petersen (up at the top) sees what is: NG to power vehicles
> as a transition step, Exxon is already moving in this direction by
> acquisition of XTO; why are they doing this?? Let's consider how
> convenient it would be in the future to stop at a Tiger Mart to re-pressurize
> your NG tank, and fill your reserve gasohol tank (at $10.00 per gallon!)...a
> couple of gallons "just in case"....NG has a potential energy in
> megajoules per kilogram of 52 vs. gasoline at 48, and Exxon has just
> acquired 45 trillion cubic feet of it, with more to come.]]> Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:02:42 -0500 But then, gas stations have never made a profit selling fuel. Thank goodness for cigarettes and beer.


On Dec 16 02:28 PM realityresearcher wrote:

> John Petersen (up at the top) sees what is: NG to power vehicles
> as a transition step, Exxon is already moving in this direction by
> acquisition of XTO; why are they doing this?? Let's consider how
> convenient it would be in the future to stop at a Tiger Mart to re-pressurize
> your NG tank, and fill your reserve gasohol tank (at $10.00 per gallon!)...a
> couple of gallons "just in case"....NG has a potential energy in
> megajoules per kilogram of 52 vs. gasoline at 48, and Exxon has just
> acquired 45 trillion cubic feet of it, with more to come.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/178395-why-exxonmobil-took-the-nat-gas-plunge-now?source=feed#comment-808400 808400 Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:03:02 -0500 http://seekingalpha.com/article/178395-why-exxonmobil-took-the-nat-gas-plunge-now?source=feed#comment-808343 808343 Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:40:02 -0500 http://seekingalpha.com/article/178226-exxon-may-be-wrong?source=feed#comment-808284 808284 The government does not subsidize OIL. OIL is subsidizing the government. What will happen if OIL goes away? Why is our government fighting wars to keep OIL? Japan attacked Pearl Harbor to destroy the ships that were routinely blockading them from getting OIL.
Go on opensecrets.org and read the fine print, not what is highlighted. Then read the financial reports and filings of the hundreds of oil companies and see how much they pay in taxes.
I, personally, think the taxes on gasoline are too low. We waste as much as we use. But then, what happens when OIL is no longer king? Raiding Medicare and everyone's retirement funds (I still have my IOU) like we did under Reagan won't help. Maybe everyone will have to start paying their fair share for living in the US. Especially the moneychangers (I don't mean banks), who do nothing productive for the country.]]> Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:23:21 -0500 The government does not subsidize OIL. OIL is subsidizing the government. What will happen if OIL goes away? Why is our government fighting wars to keep OIL? Japan attacked Pearl Harbor to destroy the ships that were routinely blockading them from getting OIL.
Go on opensecrets.org and read the fine print, not what is highlighted. Then read the financial reports and filings of the hundreds of oil companies and see how much they pay in taxes.
I, personally, think the taxes on gasoline are too low. We waste as much as we use. But then, what happens when OIL is no longer king? Raiding Medicare and everyone's retirement funds (I still have my IOU) like we did under Reagan won't help. Maybe everyone will have to start paying their fair share for living in the US. Especially the moneychangers (I don't mean banks), who do nothing productive for the country.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/178200-exxon-xto-deal-majors-to-grow-reserves-through-natural-gas-acquisitions?source=feed#comment-807599 807599 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:47:14 -0500 http://seekingalpha.com/article/178241-mind-over-matter-oil-coal-dependence-vs-alternative-energy?source=feed#comment-806864 806864 This is no reason to start shorting money from companies. You will be joining the people you are vilifying.


On Dec 15 12:39 PM JP SHMORGAN wrote:

> Wall Street is run by criminals, pedophiles, maniacs, sadists, Madoff
> masters fraudsters jews, Fed jews, masochists, JP Shmorgans, Goldman
> Sucks.................... all stink the same.
> This is how it all started, this is what it is now. The system is
> run by power brokers who bribe government to steal from the middle
> class and poor to enrich insiders only. Nothing you can do, but one
> thing.
> You are still allowed to sell stocks they sold to you decades ago
> with promises of retiring rich, now you see who you are.
> I advise you to sell all this shit on the long side, if you don't
> know how to go short, then just cash in your chips and be free of
> what is to come. If you think you have lost much since 2008, then
> soon you will beg to sell it at this price pity nobody will bid this
> high.
> OK, they will just ruin it all, it's now or never. ir.pe/mksfinance
>]]> Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:48:15 -0500 This is no reason to start shorting money from companies. You will be joining the people you are vilifying.


On Dec 15 12:39 PM JP SHMORGAN wrote:

> Wall Street is run by criminals, pedophiles, maniacs, sadists, Madoff
> masters fraudsters jews, Fed jews, masochists, JP Shmorgans, Goldman
> Sucks.................... all stink the same.
> This is how it all started, this is what it is now. The system is
> run by power brokers who bribe government to steal from the middle
> class and poor to enrich insiders only. Nothing you can do, but one
> thing.
> You are still allowed to sell stocks they sold to you decades ago
> with promises of retiring rich, now you see who you are.
> I advise you to sell all this shit on the long side, if you don't
> know how to go short, then just cash in your chips and be free of
> what is to come. If you think you have lost much since 2008, then
> soon you will beg to sell it at this price pity nobody will bid this
> high.
> OK, they will just ruin it all, it's now or never. ir.pe/mksfinance
>]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/178226-exxon-may-be-wrong?source=feed#comment-806803 806803 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:26:58 -0500 http://seekingalpha.com/article/178200-exxon-xto-deal-majors-to-grow-reserves-through-natural-gas-acquisitions?source=feed#comment-806780 806780 In the 80's Exxon spent a lot of money on solar and geothermal energy. They had their irons in the fire on many more alternative energies. They called themselves an "Energy Company." When they talk about future of alternative energies, they are talking from experience, a bad experience our government is desperately trying to duplicate.
Loon-a-tick : Do you know the difference between gas and gas? The vast majority of the people in the US don't know there is a difference between gasoline and natural gas.]]> Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:14:05 -0500 In the 80's Exxon spent a lot of money on solar and geothermal energy. They had their irons in the fire on many more alternative energies. They called themselves an "Energy Company." When they talk about future of alternative energies, they are talking from experience, a bad experience our government is desperately trying to duplicate.
Loon-a-tick : Do you know the difference between gas and gas? The vast majority of the people in the US don't know there is a difference between gasoline and natural gas.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/178260-will-exxon-xto-deal-kick-off-an-energy-merger-chain-reaction?source=feed#comment-806658 806658 In the case of XOM, they have been selling oil fields, refineries, all of their gas stations in the US during the last 10 years or so. Maybe this is just going in a new direction, nothing more. ]]> Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:27:13 -0500 In the case of XOM, they have been selling oil fields, refineries, all of their gas stations in the US during the last 10 years or so. Maybe this is just going in a new direction, nothing more. ]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/178134-climategate-emissions-and-the-energy-market?source=feed#comment-806577 806577 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:01:12 -0500 http://seekingalpha.com/article/178134-climategate-emissions-and-the-energy-market?source=feed#comment-805665 805665 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:31:56 -0500 http://seekingalpha.com/article/178089-exxon-s-natural-gas-play-fuels-the-market?source=feed#comment-805585 805585 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:49:50 -0500 http://seekingalpha.com/article/177551-expect-a-new-direction-for-crude-oil?source=feed#comment-803732 803732
Like I said in my comment, I am not against geothermal. It is a good, tried and true method of obtaining energy. I was only commenting on one word in your comment: "green." The vast majority of people touting "green" only want our money. I have been offered a dozen jobs since I retired. Each one I looked into was selling the word "green" for a profit, nothing else. Because of entropy, I don't think there is such a thing as green energy. Conservation could be called green. The energy we don't use is green. ]]> Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:00:00 -0500
Like I said in my comment, I am not against geothermal. It is a good, tried and true method of obtaining energy. I was only commenting on one word in your comment: "green." The vast majority of people touting "green" only want our money. I have been offered a dozen jobs since I retired. Each one I looked into was selling the word "green" for a profit, nothing else. Because of entropy, I don't think there is such a thing as green energy. Conservation could be called green. The energy we don't use is green. ]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/177551-expect-a-new-direction-for-crude-oil?source=feed#comment-802934 802934 Directly and indirectly, our government gets the majority of tax revenues from OIL. They talk good in front of us, but they dare not actually do anything to OIL.
Once, in Houston, I was on a jury panel composed of 75 people. I wondered why there were so many of us, they only need 12. I found out it was a lawsuit against an oil company. The Judge asked if anyone benefited from the oil company in the lawsuit in any manner. Over 60 people raised their hands. They were all excluded, only gas station haters were left. Of course, the oil company lost.]]> Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:44:49 -0500 Directly and indirectly, our government gets the majority of tax revenues from OIL. They talk good in front of us, but they dare not actually do anything to OIL.
Once, in Houston, I was on a jury panel composed of 75 people. I wondered why there were so many of us, they only need 12. I found out it was a lawsuit against an oil company. The Judge asked if anyone benefited from the oil company in the lawsuit in any manner. Over 60 people raised their hands. They were all excluded, only gas station haters were left. Of course, the oil company lost.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/177859-dr-pepper-snapple-tapping-into-record-growth?source=feed#comment-802894 802894 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:56:46 -0500 http://seekingalpha.com/article/177551-expect-a-new-direction-for-crude-oil?source=feed#comment-802885 802885 PPS: Did you know that playground sand is a "Particularly Hazardous Chemical?"]]> Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:37:30 -0500 PPS: Did you know that playground sand is a "Particularly Hazardous Chemical?"]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/177551-expect-a-new-direction-for-crude-oil?source=feed#comment-802868 802868 So, I'm against geothermal? I never said that. Just don't invest in it because you are told it is "Green." Actually, none of the alternative energies are "Green." "Green" is an advertising gimmick to attract customers or investors or anyone willing to part with their money in the name of "Green." ]]> Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:13:10 -0500 So, I'm against geothermal? I never said that. Just don't invest in it because you are told it is "Green." Actually, none of the alternative energies are "Green." "Green" is an advertising gimmick to attract customers or investors or anyone willing to part with their money in the name of "Green." ]]>