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Will the Clean Energy Economy Become the Next Internet?

Trivia continued (I got sidetracked and forgot to put in the punchline)

God must be an engineer. He put a waste disposal system right in the middle of a recreation zone.

Will the Clean Energy Economy Become the Next Internet?

Just some trivia.
We eat hydrocarbons that are broken down and the energy is saved in little batteries called "ATP." These batteries are transported to where they are needed, using energy sent to our heart. Muscles, etc use the energy stored in these batteries and the drained batteries have to be transported back to be recharged. There is gaseous, liquid and solid wastes produced. Except for heat, all the other wastes are considered hazardous.

Will the Clean Energy Economy Become the Next Internet?

"So where is the $300B/yr oil companies pay in taxes?"
in 2008:
XOM paid $42 billion in operating taxes
XOM paid $37 billion in income tax
Chevron paid $20 billion in operating taxes
Chevron paid $12 billion in income taxes

There are 500 more oil companies to list.

We paid $35 billion in sales taxes through Exxon and they only represent 3% of the market.

The oil business is big business, but just a business. We are the users of these products. We are the polluters. Just passing the buck doesn't make it so.

Will the Clean Energy Economy Become the Next Internet?

Energy cannot be created nor destroyed (Law of Conservation).
The energy is stored and released by acting on these shared massless electrons. There is always waste (entropy). I was just saying it doesn't matter whether it's methane or coal, it's the same chemical or physical reaction.


On Jul 28 12:58 AM rooferguy wrote:

> E=mc^2
>
> You can't make energy by moving a massless particle. Energy is released
> in heat by breaking chemical bonds in a hydrocarbon - and then turning
> just some of that heat into mechanical energy which is then partially
> turned into electrical energy. The rest is wasted heat - AKA global
> warming.
>
> Photons from the sun make the transition directly from light to electricity.
> Not too concentrated a source, but neither is photosynthesis. Much
> more distributed, cleaner, elegant and virtually no wasted energy
> (which turns into heat).

Will the Clean Energy Economy Become the Next Internet?

Actually, all energy is just the movement of massless electrons.
With methane and oxygen, massless electrons are moved to produce CO2 and H2O and the potential energy is released as kinetic energy. Same with biodiesel, diesel, gasoline, kerosene, wood, alcohol.
The internet is this same exact energy, just in orderly bursts. How else can you operate a laptop on propane?

Will the Clean Energy Economy Become the Next Internet?

Energy efficiency IS boring. After a while you don't even know you are doing it. Just the other day, I figured I saved $75,000 over my career by carpooling. In 1953, my father built a fluorescent-only home. How much money was saved over 60+ years?
Exxon makes 5 cents a gallon for gasoline. This adds up to billions of dollars.
The average driver wastes $1000/year just by pretending their car is a video game.
Energy efficiency IS boring and someone is thanking you for your contributions to their pocketbook.

Will the Clean Energy Economy Become the Next Internet?

Actually, oil is about the most heavily taxed commodity there is. If the biofuel business were to take over from the oil business, the US is destined to lose a Trillion dollars a year in tax revenues. Hopefully, algae will not be taxed out of business. The "oil companies" make money from other commodities to balance out. algae needs to become multifaceted if it to make it.


On Jul 27 12:17 PM stockferret wrote:

>,Oil is extremely heavily subsidized right now.