Will Google Throw In The Towel In The Endgame Against Vringo Due To Legal Precedents? [View article]
rdmill,
It's very simple, if GOOG has it, show it. If I was JJ I'd say, "Put up or shut up right now. If you say you got, I want to see it "TODAY" I'm not giving you anymore time for anything. Let's see it! But they don't have one. It was stated by Becker that VRNG's patent is a METHOD or METHODOLOGY that cannot be worked around. It's not a technology.
Will Google Throw In The Towel In The Endgame Against Vringo Due To Legal Precedents? [View article]
Agreed, good article! Thanks Patent News Legal precedents are what matter in these cases being in courts of law. This is really over for GOOG unless JJ has some sympathy towards them for whatever reason. Doubt that!
Will Google Throw In The Towel In The Endgame Against Vringo Due To Legal Precedents? [View article]
panabryan,
You have no idea what you're doing or saying. Pump and dump? You shouldn't talk about something that you haven't researched. Please do some research before making dumb comments. Sheesch! Vrng has been showing it's mojo all along, they've been transparent, they've been tough. A pump and dump is a penny stock that's being pumped by underhanded crooks. A pump and dump has no real earnings, no real investments, and they're always evasive. VRNG is totally contrary to this. So again, don't condemn a company that you're obviously short on.
Can Judge Jackson Impose An Injunction Against Google's Unconfirmed Workaround? [View article]
Kev do you think we could/should add and "IF" to your last sentence? As in, "IF" JJ stands his ground and doesn't waiver in light of the USPTO's decision? He shouldn't let this decision by the USPTO sway him. but I'm always wondering about conspiracy, deception and pay offs. Could someone in Congress who has GOOG's ear and GOOG's backing intervene and call JJ? Maybe I'm going to far, but the underhanded dealings that go on never cease to amaze me. P.S. I know that VRNG will answer GOOG's latest rebuttal by today or Monday. I just hope that this is the end of this crap. It's gone on long enough, no more delays, just rule.
How Will Judge Jackson Handle Google's Confirmed Workaround? [View article]
How would Steve Jobs handle a "workaround" issue: In March 2010, after filing an ITC complaint and a federal lawsuit against HTC, Apple released an official statement with the following quote from Steve Jobs:
"We can sit by and watch competitors steal our patented inventions, or we can do something about it. We've decided to do something about it," said Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO. "We think competition is healthy, but competitors should create their own original technology, not steal ours."
That is still the only Apple comment on the HTC dispute. In fact, even after the ruling on Monday, a spokeswoman for Apple reiterated that position. Not only does nothing in that statement suggest that a workaround is a negative outcome but the second part even suggests that "competitors should create their own original technology". That's exactly what a workaround, or designaround, comes down to.
His official biography states that shortly after he brought litigation against HTC, Steve Jobs met with then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt and said: "I want you to stop using our ideas in Android, that's all I want." Again, that's what HTC is now going to do with respect to the "data tapping" patent. What HTC calls a workaround sounds more like a throwout -- a complete removal of the feature rather than an alternative implementation -- but either way it's just what Steve Jobs wanted. He wanted this with a view to far more patents than one, but Apple can now try to make his vision materialize one patent at a time. Its litigation has already resulted in several modifications of competing products, particularly on Samsung's part.
How Will Judge Jackson Handle Google's Confirmed Workaround? [View article]
Hmmm, found this elsewhere, but worth posting: Ok folks, believe me or not but i have some good news. Me and some buds did some code breaking today and guess what, Qbb has been disabled. So that is true, we found that the code in the adwords is identical to bing with one exception, bing used a filter for inserting pictures, otherwise the code is identical. That means that google has not changed the code.
Now i did not do this before or after the case so i can not 100 percent say that google did not do a modification of some sort, but if they did they are even more infringing! Now i had one of my friends who taught me my job as a coder, this guy has experience in the field and has testified in court as an expert to explain colorably different. He explained to me that the only way to be colorable different on the code and the current use would to be to do away with the ads, and the ranking systems. This also works for click though and pay per clicks. So rest assured there is no way google has a workaround and can still profit. I had some info sent to vringo from three certified government coders. So i wait to see how this plays out cause i do not trust the judge, but i did prove today that there is no change. If you want to test the theory you can google five short things on google and yahoo or bing and write down the top twenty. If you get 60 percent the same results there http://bit.ly/103oMx1 is your proof. Reason for sixty percent is because all the systems have vip placement code in the script. This is to place the vip ads up top for specific times. Good luck to all
How Long Until Vringo's Verdict Against Google Pays Off? [View article]
panabryan, you're not making sense, my goodness. Don't you read the other intelligent posts? There are so many experienced litigation traders here who've shown how wrong GOOG is, don't you read? No, because you're arrogant and short. You think you're right and all the rest of us are stupid and wrong. If you read, you'd understand that it's GOOG who' in trouble. But go ahead, short VRNG, go ahead. I've been in VRNG for a long time, they're ahead of GOOG 102 to 4 or something ridiculous like that as far as wins and losses. The USPTO isn't going to mean squat as far as this trial is concerned. Squat!
Google Cannot Penetrate Vringo's 7th Amendment Armor [View article]
Rick,
The problem with Congress passing legislation that reduces/limits the power of patents is that it destroys the patent process. It encourages thievery and fraud, which, yes, goes on all the time in Congress. However, passing this legislation is not going to be easy. I wouldn't hold my breath on seeing it accomplished anytime soon. Just because Obama wants it doesn't mean it's going to happen. If you think JJ has been slow in ruling, Congress does things even slower. So yeah, Kevin is right about this, nothing will be cut off by Congress for VRNG, because by the time Congress ever passes legislation, this will be over. Senator Schumer is supposed to introduce a bill to reduce patent legislation, we'll have to wait to see what he proposes, but it'll be changed, reduced, adjusted, and beaten to death by the time Congress votes on it. I doubt it'll change very much, especially because lawyers like the present system and they'll pressure Congress to keep it as is because they're making a ton of money from it.
Vringo: '420 Patent Re-Examination And Confusion [View article]
Great substitive article and thorough research, A+ Not sure if a USPTO decision can over rule a jury verdict. Thoughts? Also Chris, what does this do now to the 10 days that GOOG was given to respond to IP/engine and also does this impede or hamper JJ's ruling? Read also that this could simply be just a "wording" problem and nothing really to be too concerned about. I guess we will see. Patience and more patience for VRNG longs. Are you going to jump in and buy some shares of VRNG now, if the stock price drops?
Ruling Speeds Up End Game In Vringo Settlement [View article]
Patent Plays, I don't always agree wholeheartedly with you, but I like your thought process, the way you think and write. Also, for those who have condemned you and disagreed with you, write an article. Go ahead, write an article if you're brave enough. It is not easy and you'll always get criticized for something. You've got to be teflon.
Ruling Speeds Up End Game In Vringo Settlement [View article]
Since no one replied to "schmerkle" I will. The reason that GOOG's share price is going up is because GOOG shareholders could care less about this lawsuit. When GOOG has to pay up, and they will, the amount they'll pay in comparison to the billions that they've made off of VRNG's is just a drop in the bucket. Chump change. 1 billion for GOOG is less than 1/8 of their yearly revenue. They've got so much money they hardly know what to do with it. So GOOG's shareholders could care less about this lawsuit and most are so enamored with GOOG that nothing short of a nuclear explosion or wild fire will deter them from investing more into this huge elephant. So short VRNG schmerkle, go ahead, GOOG keeps losing this battle and they're in a corner right now. It's hard to see how they'll get out of it unless they buy VRNG which is a smart man's money play.
Ruling Speeds Up End Game In Vringo Settlement [View article]
Maybe we'll wake up tomorrow and the headline will read: Microsoft buys Vringo! I like that better than Goog buying them, but wouldn't that be a dagger in Goog's back. Yikes.
Will Google Throw In The Towel In The Endgame Against Vringo Due To Legal Precedents? [View article]
It's very simple, if GOOG has it, show it. If I was JJ I'd say, "Put up or shut up right now. If you say you got, I want to see it "TODAY" I'm not giving you anymore time for anything. Let's see it! But they don't have one. It was stated by Becker that VRNG's patent is a METHOD or METHODOLOGY that cannot be worked around. It's not a technology.
Will Google Throw In The Towel In The Endgame Against Vringo Due To Legal Precedents? [View article]
Will Google Throw In The Towel In The Endgame Against Vringo Due To Legal Precedents? [View article]
You have no idea what you're doing or saying. Pump and dump? You shouldn't talk about something that you haven't researched. Please do some research before making dumb comments. Sheesch! Vrng has been showing it's mojo all along, they've been transparent, they've been tough. A pump and dump is a penny stock that's being pumped by underhanded crooks. A pump and dump has no real earnings, no real investments, and they're always evasive. VRNG is totally contrary to this. So again, don't condemn a company that you're obviously short on.
Can Judge Jackson Impose An Injunction Against Google's Unconfirmed Workaround? [View article]
Can Judge Jackson Impose An Injunction Against Google's Unconfirmed Workaround? [View article]
P.S.
I know that VRNG will answer GOOG's latest rebuttal by today or Monday. I just hope that this is the end of this crap. It's gone on long enough, no more delays, just rule.
How Will Judge Jackson Handle Google's Confirmed Workaround? [View article]
"We can sit by and watch competitors steal our patented inventions, or we can do something about it. We've decided to do something about it," said Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO. "We think competition is healthy, but competitors should create their own original technology, not steal ours."
That is still the only Apple comment on the HTC dispute. In fact, even after the ruling on Monday, a spokeswoman for Apple reiterated that position. Not only does nothing in that statement suggest that a workaround is a negative outcome but the second part even suggests that "competitors should create their own original technology". That's exactly what a workaround, or designaround, comes down to.
His official biography states that shortly after he brought litigation against HTC, Steve Jobs met with then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt and said: "I want you to stop using our ideas in Android, that's all I want." Again, that's what HTC is now going to do with respect to the "data tapping" patent. What HTC calls a workaround sounds more like a throwout -- a complete removal of the feature rather than an alternative implementation -- but either way it's just what Steve Jobs wanted. He wanted this with a view to far more patents than one, but Apple can now try to make his vision materialize one patent at a time. Its litigation has already resulted in several modifications of competing products, particularly on Samsung's part.
How Will Judge Jackson Handle Google's Confirmed Workaround? [View article]
Now i did not do this before or after the case so i can not 100 percent say that google did not do a modification of some sort, but if they did they are even more infringing! Now i had one of my friends who taught me my job as a coder, this guy has experience in the field and has testified in court as an expert to explain colorably different. He explained to me that the only way to be colorable different on the code and the current use would to be to do away with the ads, and the ranking systems. This also works for click though and pay per clicks. So rest assured there is no way google has a workaround and can still profit. I had some info sent to vringo from three certified government coders. So i wait to see how this plays out cause i do not trust the judge, but i did prove today that there is no change. If you want to test the theory you can google five short things on google and yahoo or bing and write down the top twenty. If you get 60 percent the same results there http://bit.ly/103oMx1 is your proof. Reason for sixty percent is because all the systems have vip placement code in the script. This is to place the vip ads up top for specific times. Good luck to all
How Will Judge Jackson Handle Google's Confirmed Workaround? [View article]
How Long Until Vringo's Verdict Against Google Pays Off? [View article]
Google Cannot Penetrate Vringo's 7th Amendment Armor [View article]
The problem with Congress passing legislation that reduces/limits the power of patents is that it destroys the patent process. It encourages thievery and fraud, which, yes, goes on all the time in Congress. However, passing this legislation is not going to be easy. I wouldn't hold my breath on seeing it accomplished anytime soon. Just because Obama wants it doesn't mean it's going to happen. If you think JJ has been slow in ruling, Congress does things even slower. So yeah, Kevin is right about this, nothing will be cut off by Congress for VRNG, because by the time Congress ever passes legislation, this will be over. Senator Schumer is supposed to introduce a bill to reduce patent legislation, we'll have to wait to see what he proposes, but it'll be changed, reduced, adjusted, and beaten to death by the time Congress votes on it. I doubt it'll change very much, especially because lawyers like the present system and they'll pressure Congress to keep it as is because they're making a ton of money from it.
Vringo: '420 Patent Re-Examination And Confusion [View article]
Chris, what does this do now to the 10 days that GOOG was given to respond to IP/engine and also does this impede or hamper JJ's ruling?
Read also that this could simply be just a "wording" problem and nothing really to be too concerned about. I guess we will see. Patience and more patience for VRNG longs. Are you going to jump in and buy some shares of VRNG now, if the stock price drops?
Ruling Speeds Up End Game In Vringo Settlement [View article]
Ruling Speeds Up End Game In Vringo Settlement [View article]
Ruling Speeds Up End Game In Vringo Settlement [View article]
Ruling Speeds Up End Game In Vringo Settlement [View article]