Microsoft in Perfect Position to Undercut Previous Yahoo Offer [View article]
I concur with the above. I found a few things I disagree with in this article: 1. I do not follow any of your valuation calculations. You say due to MSN "owning" 10% of the search market, this values MSN at $10-15B? Is this saying that the search market is $100-150B? That practically all of MSN's value is derived from search? (And the same math applied to Yahoo's value?). Regardless of how you got there, I'll give you a value of $21.42/share because that is near where it was at before the offer. 2. I think instead of meaning $6B in Cash Flow, you were referring to $6B in Estimated Revenue? And Yahoo's and Google's margins are different and in this case not comparable. It is pie-in-the-sky to think that Yahoo's estimated Net Profit of $798M will come close to $2.2B. That is 176% higher than expected. And this is why Yahoo has a forward P/E of 48 at the moment and not 21. 3. Based on Google's past growth, it will make $47B in less than 6 years... likely more around 4 years with the forecasts for overall search advertising and the other lines of business it is getting into. This is why it is not foolish for the two to merge--it is riskier not to as Google gobbles up the advertising spend. 4. What incentive would Microsoft have to "come back to the table" when the shares hit 15-20. I think you would mean *Yahoo* will come back based on it being the one to hold out for $37. Microsoft is already "willing" to buy Yahoo at $33 or less... 5. Microsoft's offer to buy at $31 (above your $21-25 target) was generous, not foolish. Microsoft wants to merge Yahoo with good will and retain top talent.
and Buzzly--can you provide a link to the WSJ source? I'm interested in reading more. I have been watching the Calls and Puts and have not seen this volume/trading you are referring to.
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1. I do not follow any of your valuation calculations. You say due to MSN "owning" 10% of the search market, this values MSN at $10-15B? Is this saying that the search market is $100-150B? That practically all of MSN's value is derived from search? (And the same math applied to Yahoo's value?). Regardless of how you got there, I'll give you a value of $21.42/share because that is near where it was at before the offer.
2. I think instead of meaning $6B in Cash Flow, you were referring to $6B in Estimated Revenue? And Yahoo's and Google's margins are different and in this case not comparable. It is pie-in-the-sky to think that Yahoo's estimated Net Profit of $798M will come close to $2.2B. That is 176% higher than expected. And this is why Yahoo has a forward P/E of 48 at the moment and not 21.
3. Based on Google's past growth, it will make $47B in less than 6 years... likely more around 4 years with the forecasts for overall search advertising and the other lines of business it is getting into. This is why it is not foolish for the two to merge--it is riskier not to as Google gobbles up the advertising spend.
4. What incentive would Microsoft have to "come back to the table" when the shares hit 15-20. I think you would mean *Yahoo* will come back based on it being the one to hold out for $37. Microsoft is already "willing" to buy Yahoo at $33 or less...
5. Microsoft's offer to buy at $31 (above your $21-25 target) was generous, not foolish. Microsoft wants to merge Yahoo with good will and retain top talent.
and Buzzly--can you provide a link to the WSJ source? I'm interested in reading more. I have been watching the Calls and Puts and have not seen this volume/trading you are referring to.