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Are Energy Storage Investors Chasing Their Own Tails?

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Are Energy Storage Investors Chasing Their Own Tails?

We may getting hit by the OPPOSITION.

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Are Energy Storage Investors Chasing Their Own Tails?

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Are Energy Storage Investors Chasing Their Own Tails?

No problem Don Harmon

from a graduate [fossil] of a class of 1959.

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Are Energy Storage Investors Chasing Their Own Tails?

A handful of US battery makers is scrambling for government support ahead of a deadline this week as the US struggles to win back lost ground from Asian competitors in one of the world’s next important technologies.

The race is also the first test of how the administration will use the near-$190bn in stimulus money earmarked this year to support “green” technologies, from alternative fuels to energy-efficient building materials.

Advanced batteries are seen as a strategic technology, given their importance to electric and hybrid vehicles, and their military applications.

www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ef8...

We are becoming more convinced that there is a BTU in problem with what goes into energy storage.


Gasoline, regular unleaded, (typical) gallon 114,100 BTU = 1.00 gallon (typical)

Q How much does a gallon of gasoline weigh?

A 2.69 to 2.91 kg (5.93 to 6.42 lbs), depending on temperature, type and blend

114,100/ 5.93 = 19,241.15 and 114,100/6.42 = 17,772.59 which means that gasoline contains about twice as
many BTUs per pound a coal.

Alternative Energy Storage: Cheap Outperforms Cool

PNM has not responded so far.

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10 Green Energy Gambles for 2009: 3 Month Update

"Why did my generation fail to develop wind and solar? Because our energy choices are ruthlessly ruled, not by political judgments, but by the immutable laws of thermodynamics. In engineer-speak, turning diffused sources of energy such as photons in sunlight or the kinetic energy in wind requires massive investment to concentrate that energy into a form that's usable on any meaningful scale. ...

Now, I was told back in the 1970s the same that you're being told today: that wind and solar power are 'alternatives' to fossil fuels. A more honest description would be 'supplements'. Taken together, wind and solar power today account for just one-sixth of 1% of America's annual energy consumption today. Let me repeat that statistic - one-sixth of one percent -- .0016. "

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Long Live the Cleantech Revolution

"[J]ust outside the city sits a sprawling complex abandoned years ago by US Steel. Not long ago, it was a brownfield, the soil contaminated and the massive industrial buildings rusting alongside the railway tracks that once brought in the ore and carried out steel beams and rolls.

Now, it is an incubator in the so-called "Green Economy" that President Obama and others hold out as both the answer to America's industrial decline and its dependence on foreign oil. ..."

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Facts:
1 Laws of thermodynamics are tough to repeal
2 HEAT RATE - second law
3 CAPACITY FACTOR - reality

An email message from Whitman [a liberal arts] College college president Gerorge Bridges.

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Money to be made from those who don't understand 1, 2, and 3.

Long Live the Cleantech Revolution

"Last Thursday, he [Obama] unveiled a 10-year plan that envisions $150 billion in alternative energy subsidies ..."

This may be a lawyer's attempt to fund repeal of the first law of thermodynamics?

Kedrosky appears to be getting close to this conclusion.

Alternative Energy Is a Giant Capital Pit, Kedrosky Says: "There's No There There"

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Is "Long Live the Cleantech Revolution" attempted business PR for

www.altenergystocks.co...?

Alternative Energy Storage Stocks: Review and Outlook

Here's a New Mexico solar storage idea.

"The RFP follows a feasibility study performed by the Electric Power Research Institute last year that found that the most feasible solar technology currently available for a large-scale plant here is parabolic trough.

It utilizes a series of trough-shaped mirrors to focus sunlight onto an oil-filled tube, and then uses the hot oil to generate steam. The steam is used to turn a generator, producing electricity. When combined with thermal energy storage, this solar technology is capable of generating electricity at night, as well as during cloudy periods, the utilities said in a joint news release.

The parabolic trough technology technology looks the most promising and most economically feasible, in part because it has been field tested the most, Buell said.

The study also mentioned that potential locations could be near Albuquerque or Lordsburg in southwest New Mexico, although no more specific information on potential sites was available, Tri-State spokesman Jim Van Someren said.

If the RFP process is successful, the utilities plan to have a contract negotiated by the end of 2008, and the solar facility could be generating electricity by 2011."

Albuquerque Journal Tuesday July 1, 2008

Let's see what happens.

We're still questioning whether solar and wind have enough BTU's IN to produce the advertised KWh out at 3412.14163 BTU = 1 KWh.

But we do not question that there is some good money to be made selling wind and solar electric generation equipment to those who do understand the laws of thermodynamics, or HEAT RATE and CAPACITY FACTOR.

Alternative Energy Storage: It's All About Price vs. Performance

If, in fact, US electric energy shortages appear within the next several years, it will be interesting to see what will win. The environment or more electric power generation?


"The suit, filed Thursday in federal court in Washington, asks for a court order requiring the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency to set limits for mercury and dozens of other hazardous air pollutants.

"Power plants are the largest unregulated industrial source of air toxics," said Jim Pew, an attorney with Earthjustice, one of the groups that filed the suit. "It is unconscionable that six years after the deadline for action, we still do not have air toxics controls on these large existing sources of pollution."

The suit follows up on a ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia that threw out two Bush administration rules governing power plant emissions. The Bush EPA rules had essentially overturned a Clinton administration move under the 1990 Clean Air Act to set new air limits for arsenic, chromium, various acid mists and other hazardous air pollutants. ..."

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Radiation apparently too.

Lead times for bringing new electric power sources on line are sufficiently long [see FOIL 10] that we might in for electric shortage problems.

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We also read, vienna,

"[C]urrently, there are 439 reactors in 30 different countries. The reactors consume 167 million pounds of uranium on an annual basis. The problem is that current mine production is only 108 million pounds per year. ... " See link at top FOIL 10 page.

How Will Temporary Decline in Oil Prices Impact Energy Sector?

After more than a year attending PNM's electric integrated resource planning meeting and reading articles on Internet, I see possibility of electric grid power shortages within the next several years.

FOIL 9 in my Alternate Report at website shows New Mexico electric reserve margins falling.

Reserve margin decline in other states appear to follow what PNM forecasts for New Mexico from what we have read on Internet.

Our energy lifesyles may change in the next several years due to energy shortage and increased costs?

New construction, according to PNM forecaster Steve Martin, accounts for the major part of electric load increase. If new construction must be limited in the future for energy shortage reasons, then this might cause unfortunate economic results.