To summarize your numbers: - distillate inventory is ~9m bpd over average (about 7%) - gasoline inventory is ~6m bpd over agerage (about 3%) - crude inventory is ~35m bpd below average (about 12%)
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There is a significant difference between the oil price rises and the other bubbles you mention: oil is not an asset. Internet stocks and real estate are both assets, in that they are not consumed. When I buy them, I can't use them, I need to either hold them for their revenue stream or sell them to another investor.
Oil is not an asset, it gets used up by the final buyer.
Oil futures are assets. A bubble in oil futures would qualify as an asset bubble. But since oil futures expire into actual oil, such an asset bubble would necessarily be pricked at expiration time. For bubble students, this maps to the dutch tulip bubble centuries ago.
I'm not so naive as to suggest that futures prices have zero effect on spot prices, but the non-asset nature of oil is a critical aspect of this price rise that needs to be addressed by any bubble theory.
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I love this article! You encounter the concept of confirmation bias, and you immediately fall in love with it because it confirms your bias that oil bulls are misled. LOL!
I completely agree with your thought that all investors need to be concerned with confirmation bias, and I highly recommend The Black Swan for that concept and others. However it is a risk and pitfall that every investor needs to struggle against (with the possible exception of index investors).
I agree with you about the peak oil crowd, but the same applies to the oil bubble crowd.
I definitely agree that black swan thinking applies to oil pricing. With spare supply capacity at an extreme low, oil is very vulnerable to negative swans (black or grey). And unfortunately, it is very easy to imagine a variety of negative events, so easy that when you put them all together there is a material chance of at least one of them happening.
On the flip side, it is definitely possible to imagine a large positive black swan like a huge oil discovery somewhere. But the asymmetry is, the negative events can stop oil flowing overnight, whereas the positive ones start oil flowing after 3-6 years.
Pickens may speculate but he is not just a speculator. He placed the largest order for wind turbines that GE has ever received. He is going to build and operate them. That is not a speculative act - he is going to be stuck with those things for their 30 (50?) year operating life.
IEA's Oil Market Outlook: Off the Mark [View article]
It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. (Thanks Yogi!)
Yes they have revised their demand numbers down, based on higher oil prices which they didn't predict - but very very few predicted them to go as high as they did as quickly as they did, even energy bulls. Those that did can't post here because they are on a beach in Tahiti enjoying their fortunes.
"The IEA doesn't correctly take into account speculative demand."
But you and the Senate do?
"The IEA has, by the way, only an incomplete view about what is going on in global oil inventories"
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I don't think the wealth effect is going to have too much of an effect on the average chinese citizen. Most people don't own any shares at all. What matters to them is economic growth, which is still strong in china. As long as their economy grows, they will burn more oil. That will be true even if the government ends their subsidies, though I'm sure that would cause a slowdown in oil usage growth and very likely a short-term contraction of usage.
I think people expect prices to go up in some proportion to demand going up. And maybe they are right.
But consider this thought: what if, up till now, supply has basically been sufficient to satisfy every mile that anyone wanted to drive. I.e. there's extra capacity that could be ramped up. In that world, prices are a function of costs, plus some decent profit to suppliers. If suppliers want more profit, they have to organize a cartel, i.e. OPEC.
Now imagine that we have just crossed the line to a world where there are a few more miles people want to drive than there is gas to power them. Now, the prices have to rise to the point where some people who want to drive some miles, decide not to. I.e. prices are determined by value to the customer.
Cost + profit is a totally different number than utility value to the customer. Flipping from one to the other could involve a small amount of oil but a huge swing in prices. Like we're seen.
Analogy: if 10 guys come in from the desert dying of thirst and there's a whole costco full of water there, they are going to get their water for a buck a bottle like anyone else. But if 10 guys come in from the desert and there are only 9 bottles of water for sale, whoever sells those bottles is gonna get their whole wallets and credit cards because someone is going thirsty.
Read the IEA report. People are going thirsty. The big question to me is, will new production get us back into the lovely world we have been so used to for all these years? Or are we in a world where every extra gallon burned in BRIC has to be balanced by a gallon less burned in US/Europe?
Toyota doesn't get everything right. Did you see their press release on May US sales? Their sales of Priuses was down 37.5% "mainly as a result of limited availability". biz.yahoo.com/ap/08060...
As if a single quarter delta of 2% vs 2.5% proves anything - ordinary fluctuations or heck a rounding error could do that. Or perhaps the price increases caused demand to dip a smidge - without the price increases, perhaps the world would have tried to burn 3% i.e. more than is available.
I'm sure there are speculators around - when prices of anything shoot up, speculators will be there. Perhaps that means oil will drop some from current prices. But is anyone suggesting it will fall to $10?
weightyworld: We can both be right! If your hydrogen technology comes along in a few years, then we have to start deploying it across the whole US (and everywhere else I guess). Think how many vehicles we have to build. Think how many fuel stations we have to convert. Think of the massive infrastructure required - power stations to produce electricity to create hydrogen, then we need to ship it around. None of this is impossible, it just takes a long time.
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- distillate inventory is ~9m bpd over average (about 7%)
- gasoline inventory is ~6m bpd over agerage (about 3%)
- crude inventory is ~35m bpd below average (about 12%)
The Oil Bubble Will Meet the Same Fate as Tech, Housing [View article]
Oil is not an asset, it gets used up by the final buyer.
Oil futures are assets. A bubble in oil futures would qualify as an asset bubble. But since oil futures expire into actual oil, such an asset bubble would necessarily be pricked at expiration time. For bubble students, this maps to the dutch tulip bubble centuries ago.
I'm not so naive as to suggest that futures prices have zero effect on spot prices, but the non-asset nature of oil is a critical aspect of this price rise that needs to be addressed by any bubble theory.
Confirmatory Bias and Oil Investing [View article]
I completely agree with your thought that all investors need to be concerned with confirmation bias, and I highly recommend The Black Swan for that concept and others. However it is a risk and pitfall that every investor needs to struggle against (with the possible exception of index investors).
I agree with you about the peak oil crowd, but the same applies to the oil bubble crowd.
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On the flip side, it is definitely possible to imagine a large positive black swan like a huge oil discovery somewhere. But the asymmetry is, the negative events can stop oil flowing overnight, whereas the positive ones start oil flowing after 3-6 years.
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IEA's Oil Market Outlook: Off the Mark [View article]
Yes they have revised their demand numbers down, based on higher oil prices which they didn't predict - but very very few predicted them to go as high as they did as quickly as they did, even energy bulls. Those that did can't post here because they are on a beach in Tahiti enjoying their fortunes.
"The IEA doesn't correctly take into account speculative demand."
But you and the Senate do?
"The IEA has, by the way, only an incomplete view about what is going on in global oil inventories"
But you and the Senate do. OK.
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But consider this thought: what if, up till now, supply has basically been sufficient to satisfy every mile that anyone wanted to drive. I.e. there's extra capacity that could be ramped up. In that world, prices are a function of costs, plus some decent profit to suppliers. If suppliers want more profit, they have to organize a cartel, i.e. OPEC.
Now imagine that we have just crossed the line to a world where there are a few more miles people want to drive than there is gas to power them. Now, the prices have to rise to the point where some people who want to drive some miles, decide not to. I.e. prices are determined by value to the customer.
Cost + profit is a totally different number than utility value to the customer. Flipping from one to the other could involve a small amount of oil but a huge swing in prices. Like we're seen.
Analogy: if 10 guys come in from the desert dying of thirst and there's a whole costco full of water there, they are going to get their water for a buck a bottle like anyone else. But if 10 guys come in from the desert and there are only 9 bottles of water for sale, whoever sells those bottles is gonna get their whole wallets and credit cards because someone is going thirsty.
Read the IEA report. People are going thirsty. The big question to me is, will new production get us back into the lovely world we have been so used to for all these years? Or are we in a world where every extra gallon burned in BRIC has to be balanced by a gallon less burned in US/Europe?
Course, maybe it's just a bubble /shrug
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I'm sure there are speculators around - when prices of anything shoot up, speculators will be there. Perhaps that means oil will drop some from current prices. But is anyone suggesting it will fall to $10?
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