Pretzel Logic

Nobody Cares How the Energy Crisis Gets Solved

Allen,

Thanks for all the research on the Bakken. Let's take the Bakken off the table for the sake of discussion.

There are still at least 118 billion barrels of recoverable oil in the US. Probably more, because there are plenty of unexplored areas. And there simply is NO good argument against going and getting it. The only argument the environmentalists have is the ridiculous non-sequitur of: "Save the planet, let another country drill!"

There are only positives in recovering our own resources, and only negatives in continuing our dependence on foreign oil. Dreamland crap from T. Boone Pickens about "wind farms" isn't going to help us either. (T. Boone has billions of dollars in stranded resources in his wind investments -- he's running his multi-million dollar ad blitz in an attempt to save his own ass -- not in an attempt to save ours.)

Nobody Cares How the Energy Crisis Gets Solved

On Aug 07 10:46 AM ozzy43 wrote:
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> That's not supported by fact, evidence or data (nor is any provided
> to back it up). The amount of oil left in this country is either
> 1) too small to make much of a diff, or 2) too difficult to get to
> for it to be economically feasible (i.e. ERoEI too low). Lots and
> lots of info at theoildrum.com and other similar sites.
>
>
> Magical thinking is the opposite of critical thinking. Stick to the
> latter for planning, the former for hoping.

I don't consider estimates from 118 billion to 215 billion barrels of recoverable oil in America to be "magical thinking" that oil is plentiful in this country. I consider it to mean: oil is plentiful in this country. Add to that the fact that we simply *don't know* how much of the 2 trillion barrels in the Bakken Formation is actually recoverable... and the technology to recover it is advancing, so the potential there is huge.

www.ibdeditorials.com/...

Apologies if I misread your post regarding conservation. I am currently frustrated by our politicians, and I probably projected some of that frustration onto you.

I am not against conservation, by any means. I am against crushing our economy in the *name* of conservation. Based on the available data I've seen, it appears there is enough oil to last our planet well over a hundred years (some estimates range to over 200 years). To me that says the conservation "issue" is a chimera. Other technologies will advance and truly become viable in that 100-200 year time frame. Why is there so much panic NOW? By the time there's a real oil shortage, we won't need it anymore.

I agree we need to explore other technologies, but I believe we need to do so on a rational basis, not a hysterical OMG-the-sky-is-falling basis (not accusing you of this, again, this is directed moreso at the politicians and environmental fascists).

As to global warming, which again was directed at another poster, this is for all the people who foolishly believe that "science" supports warming theory:

www.climatescienceinte...

Nobody Cares How the Energy Crisis Gets Solved

I agree with ozzy on one point: critical thinking needs to be a required course in high school. That said, I disagree with ozzy's presuppositions. Citing conservation as the "real" solution presupposes that there is an actual shortage of energy. There is not a true shortage of energy; there is merely the appearance of a shortage, due to government intervention. Oil as a natural resource is plentiful in our country -- remove the government/environment... blockades and our increased production of oil will drive prices down for a long time to come.

As to EnergyStar talking about global warming... well, what can you say. Go back to point one about learning critical thinking skills. If you do a ton of research outside of the normal propaganda circle of government-sponsored scientists, and apply critical thinking to the evidence, you have no choice but to come to the conclusion that global warming is, at best, really bad science. At worst, it is an attempt by the powers that be to gain greater control of our citizens and our marketplace. The saddest thing is, it's working.

"Sacrifice for the greater good" was the guiding principle of the failed socialist economies of the world. And, with masses caught up in the lie of climate change, it is soon to be America's epitaph as well. I know you're trying to do a good thing, your motives are noble -- but they are taking advantage of your noble aspirations by convincing you to sacrifice your freedoms on the Altar of Climate Change. Turn those aspirations to the real good, and fight these charlatans who would deprive our children of their economic futures.