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  • Camtek Should Be CAN'T [View article]
    Even for prototyping, it replaces ONE step.. The PCB still needs to be made. And even then, the PCB company wouldn't get rid of their existing mask line because they would need it for high volume production. I pointed out in another comment that to do iPad monthly volume, you would need around 45 of the printers. You would need to load each one.. How many people to do that vs one on a conventional line?
    Dec 6, 2013. 09:43 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Camtek Should Be CAN'T [View article]
    'mastered' it? They haven't even sold one yet. And how is a simple mask 'the most difficult' part?
    Laughable to now be extrapolated to building full PCBs. Reminds me of the organovo crowd after seeing a few cells being deposited talking about full organs being next like it's something just on the horizon.
    Dec 6, 2013. 09:38 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Camtek Should Be CAN'T [View article]
    Using the size/speed example, and a rough number to make a point, you could fit about 12 pcb's to fit something like an ipad I would guess on the max size the greenjet prints. In a day, there are 1440 minutes. In a 31 day month, there are 44,640 minutes. Apple, with just this ONE product ships around 2 million per month. So to keep up, you would need 45 greenjets running 24 hours a day. So the investment, outside of ink for a company to make pcb's for the ipad would be $13,500,000 just to print those pcb's soldermask.

    So I would be interested in someone who is in the industry stating how fast current lines could run something similar off., value of the machinery/consumables estimated to do so, and factoring in the 4 people vs 1 person running the greenjet. I cannot see how this could ever replace large volume printing economically.
    Dec 4, 2013. 12:18 PM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Camtek Should Be CAN'T [View article]
    In your own example though, the greenjet will not replace anything if it is only useful for prototypes. Companies will still have the soldermask line, and the same employees for the main runs they do. And if it takes a minute per board to just do soldermask, then it would take a ridiculous amount of time printing a full muli-layer pcb if that ever becomes possible. I'm not sure at 300k, plus consumables when the break even would be, and am guessing you are not privy to your companies costs or financials. So for a company to buy this, they would be looking at it as an addition, not as a replacement for anything. So with that in mind, what exactly would a company gain over the competition vs just not spending the money?
    Dec 4, 2013. 12:06 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Camtek: Untangling The 3-D Printing Story [View article]
    No you didn't.. If they need 20 printers for the same production speed then that's certainly a consideration to a plant. You didn't even mention cost of their coating vs conventional.. In fact outside of their stated market value, you didn't examine anything. I would think if you truly had researched this long ago, in the last 5-6 years this has been out you would have gotten some of that. But I guess they hadn't mentioned it was "3d" yet right?
    Dec 3, 2013. 10:02 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Camtek: Untangling The 3-D Printing Story [View article]
    Why didn't you touch on production speed vs what exists now? You say 1 printer will replace a soldermask line? Did you compare costs of consumables to see if this is worthwhile to a manufacturer? Hasn't this printer been around since 2007? Why the effort to hook on the "3d" bandwagon? No reason at all to have done that. Just curious, how many inkjet or laser printers do you see in large scale magazine or newspaper print lines?
    Dec 3, 2013. 09:57 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Apple May Earn $46 Billion In Annual Profit From TV By 2020 [View article]
    And you have to have an apple tv for that? Or would it make more sense a nice Sony 4k xbr or oled might be a future integration to bet on?
    Dec 1, 2013. 10:28 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Apple May Earn $46 Billion In Annual Profit From TV By 2020 [View article]
    IPhones were not entering a saturated and commoditized market for smartphones, yet the author treats getting into a market like TV will be the same.. Ya.. OK.. Funny he didn't use something similar like the MacBook, or tv puck that would make more sense for assumptions like that right?
    Dec 1, 2013. 10:22 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Apple May Earn $46 Billion In Annual Profit From TV By 2020 [View article]
    Ezio fdf2301-3d from 2010. 24" glasses free monitor.. And look how svelte and thin it is! Also same year in same size Magnetic 3d, Motorolla, NEC, and Samsung with a 50" model. In 2009 you can read many an article of this tech that will 'take the industry by storm', yet how many have you seen 4yrs later?
    I bought my NEC PC 3d glasses-free monitor at least a decade ago, used for a couple months, then thrown in the closet..
    Dec 1, 2013. 10:17 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Apple May Earn $46 Billion In Annual Profit From TV By 2020 [View article]
    Planning? Sony, barco, jvc and many others already there with 4k projectors, and actually second generation at that. I will never cease to be amazed at the Apple dreamers inability to research the things they think are undiscovered, but currently commercialized by someone else. People in high end imaging think a lot more of other things than hoping someone sees a logo on a projector on their ceiling.
    Dec 1, 2013. 10:04 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Apple May Earn $46 Billion In Annual Profit From TV By 2020 [View article]
    Why does it imply the ui is an issue? Maybe people over 15 don't want to look like a goof wearing one.. Much like I see the same for Google glass. I can see these things a hit for the sub-17 yr old crowd perhaps, but that's about it. The idea of a watch that duplicates some of the functions of what you have in your pocket has always been ridiculous. How us having an apple logo on it going to change that? You seem to imply a watch HAS to be a hit, and if it's not, it's not because it's just a bad idea, but some other reason..
    Dec 1, 2013. 09:57 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Apple May Earn $46 Billion In Annual Profit From TV By 2020 [View article]
    Alex, you should have researched glasses-less 3d more. I had a 19" nec monitor that did that at least a decade ago, if not longer.. And even then I bought it discontinued because it had been on the market for a while. NVIDIA had drivers for that application, then eventually discontinued I would guess due to the fact it never took off. Until you have seen it, seen the limitations in viewing angles (I don't care if vizio has 28 'positions', which is not the same as angle.. It's a discreet spot), the limitations in light output, the shimmering of the image, don't pump it like it's the second coming. When the feature is turned off, the image is still very much affected by the assembly that makes the 3d possible. The trade off is too great. One day they might get it acceptable, but not in the first or second generation.. And then they need to get past the first being a flop due to these issues... And you want to add touch on top of that which is a mesh? Do you understand why they can only get to a certain size now? I can't see anyone other than a die hard few going for an apple tv.. Not with the oled or 4k alternatives out there. Look how fast those are selling now.. Both are a huge change, but are hardly taking the industry by storm in sales.
    Dec 1, 2013. 09:50 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Apple May Earn $46 Billion In Annual Profit From TV By 2020 [View article]
    Skaro, Samsung already has a fully integrated phone,tablet,tv setup. Hardly new or groundbreaking. And I doubt these fly off the shelf for that reason. I also find it laughable that appleTV puck is never discussed in these types of articles like it's something Apple isn't already trying. What would anyone gain by paying more for a movie from Apple vs Netflix? Sony now with a 4k network device, Netflix getting into 4k.. Just too crowded. All the authors examples of penetration are not areas that were already saturated.. Except appletv puk.... Which of course as I say is always conveniently omitted from these types of thesis.
    Dec 1, 2013. 09:38 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Camtek Ltd To Launch First Of Its Kind 3-D Printer [View article]
    It shouldn't need to be called 3d.. Is that really important? If you said it was a printer that printed traces on a PCB, does it make a difference to it's functionality to call it '3d'? The printer, and the company should be promoted by valuation, and what this printer may be worth.. Period. 3d or not is irrelevant. The fact valuation takes a back seat to the term '3d' says it all.
    Nov 27, 2013. 09:24 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Camtek Ltd To Launch First Of Its Kind 3-D Printer [View article]
    Yup.. To truly be 3d this would need to print a fiberglass wafer, then print traces, vias, component holes, another layer of fiberglass, more of the previous, repeated possibly many times, then solder mask, and then the silkscreen layer. To call this 3d would be the same as calling your printer you have now 3d because it is a few microns off the surface of the paper.
    Nov 26, 2013. 11:13 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
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