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On a Disastrous Jobs Number, Recession is Obvious

Fastcad: The problem isn't loving the environment per se, it's the basic thoughtlessness (I have to call it that because if I thought for a minute it was anything else I'd be leading a mob with rope and looking for handy streetlights) and the basic hypocrisy of environmental activists.

The biggest hypocrisy is the fact that environmental activists are for limited growth but they're also for open borders. How does that work, exactly?

The second biggest is pretending that how things are done in Europe is both superior and applicable to the US situation. Here's a news flash. Europe is about the size of the American South. If we had our whole population stuffed into that small an area trains and public transport would work just fine. We don't and it doesn't. Something you might have missed as well is that most of the air pollution in the Los Angeles basin is from ... wait for it ... diesel engines. Guess what uses diesel engines ... public transport, my friend. If you look at the load factors for buses on spread out routes like you get in most American cities you'll find that cars are actually more fuel efficient. We could have made more dense cities, but we still educate city planners to worship city maps and play retarded games like "business will be here" and "houses will be way over here". The bastards turned the Monterey Peninsula, which was a very income mixed area into a completely high rent district some thirty years ago via "urban renewal" and city planning to the point that now the people who actually work here, as opposed to clipping cupons off their municipal bonds every month, have to live over in Salinas and to a 60 mile round trip commute daily. That's not something that raising gas taxes and restricting gas supplies like you propose is going to fix. Neither is putting long distance buses in. Problem with long distance buses is that they take you typically from city center to city center which begs the question of how you get to your city center to get on the bus and then when you get off the bus you've got to make several more connections to get to your workplace. What mass transit does in our cities is mean that people who have to commute leave their house before dawn and get back after dusk. Where do suppose that leaves their kids? Hmmm?

You play like as well that Europe is such an energetic success because they tax the hell out of gas. If it wasn't for Russian oil and gas and French nukes, my friend, they'd be up the proverbial creek without the proverbial paddle.

On a Disastrous Jobs Number, Recession is Obvious

Inardozi: "Funny you should mention the '70s plaasjaapie. That's exactly where we're headed."

I couldn't agree more. The scary part is that I don't think that either party has fielded a candidate who has even the smallest clue of the nature of the mess we've got ourselves into never mind a coherent plan for getting us out of it. :-(

You guys aren't going to like the 70's redux. You seem to have forgotten as well that it took four years of Nixon/Ford stupidity and another four years of Carteresque foolishness before the public had had enough and gave the government to Reagan with an enormous landslide.

Sadly, the parties who fielded this dog's dinner of "presidential" aspirants and most of the voters who held their noses and made a selection regardless either didn't experience the debacle of the 70's or have conveniently forgotten. :-s

On a Disastrous Jobs Number, Recession is Obvious

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Like every journalist with an leftist agenda, however, he goes to great lengths to convince people that one isn't happening.

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Like every journalist with an leftist agenda, however, he goes to great lengths to convince people that one IS happening.

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For those of who can remember, our economy went belly up back in the 1970's and we did really have a big-time recession and a nasty thing called "stagflation&quot.... which meant that home loans hit 18%.

should read

For those of who can remember, our economy went belly up back in the 1970's and we did really DID have a big-time recession and a nasty thing called "stagflation" ... which meant that home loans hit 18%.

On a Disastrous Jobs Number, Recession is Obvious

I get so sick of people like this guy talking down the economy. This twit knows very well what the definition of a recession is. Like every journalist with an leftist agenda, however, he goes to great lengths to convince people that one isn't happening. Mind, we may have one at the end of the quarter after next, but regardless of this creep's "analysis" we haven't got one yet.

Actually, given the oil shock that we've experienced in the past six months, half of Mexico moving up here and flooding the job market and, out here in California were an envirocrazy judge just shut off one-third of the state's water supply because some damned "endangered" smelt was getting caught in the water supply pumps it's amazing we're all not cooking over campfires in the back yard.

For those of who can remember, our economy went belly up back in the 1970's and we did really have a big-time recession and a nasty thing called "stagflation" which meant that home loans hit 18%. The economy was a LOT more fragile in those days.

What's scary is that the economic prescriptions that Obama has in mind are almost identical to the ones Jimmy Carter and Jerry Ford put in place back then. I don't know what the hell McCain has in mind but he's a committed "lets keep all our buying energy from overseas nutjobs instead of drilling and mining any here" and totally opposed to actually having a southern border that means anything just like the looniest of the leftists, so I haven't a lot of hope from the "right". :-(