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Congress vs. Automakers: Are Both Sides Fiscally Irresponsible?

yeah, I trust Pelosi and Reid to put together a 'successful plan' to rescue the industry..

sounds like socialists saving socialists to me

UAW out
SAW in

i'll buy a honda

Buy, Sell or Hold: GM's Too-Big-to-Fail Myth

oh yeah... and save my post and re-read it in 10 years and change BIG 3 for SOCIAL SECURITY...
entitlements or any socialism practices are flawed in principle and WILL fail.

this is going to be nasty!

Unions and its employees have a STICK IT TO THE MAN mentality...
well, ATLAS is about to SHRUG

Buy, Sell or Hold: GM's Too-Big-to-Fail Myth

luckie:

I drive a Ford and a Honda Accord... BOTH made in the USA!

furthermore, I don't care where it is made. I care what it costs and the utility it will provide for me.

Mike n Mich: spot on... however, as I was and still am against socialistic practices, including the financial bailout... so NO for the big 3.

the Southern Auto Workers are doing well without union representation.
you ask me if I am willing to loan big 3 some of my money???'
what have they done for me? nothing... and that's the way I want it.

furthermore, the government is in violation of the constitution acting as a bank to begin with.

It is sad to see them go down... and it will drag us all down... but better to take our medicine now and get it over with than to leave this same problem for our kids to figure out in 20 more years

How Not to Bail Out Detroit

Michigan auto wife:

why should you get a bailout? Sad to lose your job, yes... part of life, yes

you can't stipend/subsidize America. the UAW is largely to blame...
why are the foreign competitors still in business? I don't know...
but they are not part of a UNION

UAW $80/hour
foreign $ 30/hour

how is that math hard?

good luck, but no, I don't want to give you my money!

Bust-Up, Not Bailout

expensive lawyer-

are you a public defender? answer: NO
relevance, private money/firms pay based on performance... (free market)
NOT via Government salary (socialistic) public defender

I see you believe in free markets only when it leads to personal gain...

In this case of the US auto industry, I prefer to discuss the players in question as opposed to your 'case law' reference from an overseas market that plays by different rules!

we discuss GM in the US... and you go for a VW in Germany... you should represent your client (unions and the US auto industry) rather than jump to foreign markets.

You mentioned running 4th Grade math on some numbers... I asked you where they were?? NO ANSWER!

provide the court some evidence instead of rhetoric. The argument that "it works in Europe" sounds good, but... THIS ISN'T EUROPE.

this argument is why unions don't work HERE! not overseas...

the fact is, you and your industry is sinking, not mine...
so, you hold onto your 'it works in europe' argument... it won't pay your light bill

again.. why must unions exist?
why can't the auto industry perform without them?

these are elementary questions that I await to hear you address in your attorney diatribe.

the burden of proof, sir, is on you and your industry... you know, the one looking for tax payer money!!!!

fyi... I own a Ford and a Honda... so I'm equal opportunity here

Bust-Up, Not Bailout

unions may have had their place back in the day for worker's rights..
it's time to take the training will off the motorcycle!
just as social security was supposed to be temporary back in 1930's

not to be a hypocrite, but if union members were so concerned with worker's rights... why still support Chinese products manufactured in sweat shops!

unions were established for political gain... worker's rights was merely a by-product.

Wal-Mart is doing pretty well without them

Bust-Up, Not Bailout

expensive lawyer??? i'm waiting to hear you


i love these bitter 2-3 comment ex-auto industry turned economic policy experts

you and your unions are at the heart of this! refute my post!
I'd love to hear you defend you stance of...
biting the hand that fed your children....
all in the name of unions.
How's that healthcare and pension look now?

It is sad and I don't rejoice in the failing of these companies, but don't give me your 'holier than thou' spill

Bust-Up, Not Bailout

Expensive Lawyer:

Are you a 'public defender' by chance? No? Why not?

and before you accuse someone of lacking 4th grade arithmetic skills, can YOU perform the said 4th grade skills for us?

I'd like to see your math sir/ma'am.

FURTHERMORE if you were only treated with respect due to your affiliation with union, then maybe you should have either demanded it yourself! Or... leave your 'crummy' employer!

its funny, you love your job, but hate the employer (due to lack of respect?) therefore leaving you no option... (like get a new job) but to organize an entire group of 'like-minded' victims.

sounds a lot like the liberals in this world!

to join a union is to guarantee yourself no distinction from the person next to you... sad

Combining the Pickens Plan and an Auto Bailout

the government can't loan them money... its a GOVERNMENT, NOT A BANK!

Government isn't even good at Government... let alone banking! or whatever else is on special interests 'wish list'

Adios Ford, Chevy, Chrysler....

If I want a CNG auto, I'll go to my local Honda dealer and buy an accord!!!!

GET A GRIP and give me back my money!