bowonwing

Pharmaceutical Dollar Rationing by Results

You wrote this blow-hard: "My father is an american orthopedic surgeon. He tells me his Canadian colleagues at one hospital are only allowed to perform two hip replacements a month for a whole department of orthopedics."

Now your telling me you haven't talked to your father in years and you're telling me I write like a fool??

And you still didn't answer my question? Which Canadian hospital? Big guy.

Maybe you should talk to your father once in while and clear your confused head. Bow- out.


On Aug 14 02:39 AM Student of History wrote:

> "Do you have health care? Oh, thats right your father is a doctor!
> of course you have health care. Wake-up!"
>
> I haven't spoken to my father in years. You write like a fool.<br/>
>
> I have health insurance for two reasons. Number one, I work my ass
> off and I have a very frugal lifestyle. Number two. I've made sacrifices
> in terms of my wages in order to obtain and keep my half decent private
> health insurance. I beileve this is what you socialists call "job
> lock". My response to that is this; total compensation=salary+be...
> not salary alone. You get what you pay for... I'd much rather have
> to deal with "job lock" instead of rationed government healthcare.
>
>
> Perhaps you should consider moving to Canada?

Pharmaceutical Dollar Rationing by Results

Which Canadian hospital are you referring too and in what city?

If you are making statements like this you better back them up with the facts.

This is the classic response of US doctors (and hospitals and drug companies), screaming of the horrors of the Canadian health care system. It is BS!

The Canadian Universal health care system works and has been independently rated as one of the best health care systems in the world (there was a PBS special on health care last year, 2008).

I ask you to choose between in the US 40+ million without health care (and tens of millions more under-insured) and the Canadian universal health care for all, with some wait times. I did say there are waits for elective procedures. The Canadian health care system is not perfect but it does provide health care for everyone!

Ask the 40+ million in US who do not have health care which system they would they choose? I would venture to say they would choose the Canadian type system of health care for all in the US, with the possibility of some wait times.

I know one family with two children who had to fill for bankruptcy because their mother had cancer and no health care (she died anyway), and I just heard of a woman with two kids (by C-section about $20K in US) who is pregnant again with no health care. What is she going to do?

Do you have health care? Oh, thats right your father is a doctor! of course you have health care. Wake-up!


On Jul 02 02:39 AM Student of History wrote:

> Ask your father how long he would have to wait if he needed a hip
> replacement. My father is an american orthopedic surgeon. He tells
> me his Canadian colleagues at one hospital are only allowed to perform
> two hip replacements a month for a whole department of orthopedics.
> Quite a few Canadians (an understatement of course) come to the US
> for medical treatment. You don't see too many Americans going to
> Canada for medical treatment (buying prescription drugs does not
> count)..

Pharmaceutical Dollar Rationing by Results

Comments by several posters bash the Canadian health care system. I think these criticisms are misplaced.

My father is Canadian and lives in Vancouver B.C., was born there and has lived most of his life there (I am US citizen born in Hawaii, living in the Bay Area, US). His experience with the Canadian health care system has been very positive (Canadians do pay for this with high taxes). The Canadian system is built on the government establishing the prices for the heath care (thus the doctors, hospitals and drug companies are fighting to have this type of system in the US- they will not make as much money).
To my fathers knowledge there is no "ration health by limiting access to the system," as one poster stated.

Every Canadian citizen has a health care card and has access to the Canadian health care system and cost are very reasonable. In the US between 25 to 30% of health care costs are due to "administration costs." To my knowledge these costs in Canada are about 50% less.

From my fathers experience, the Canadian health care system provides universal health care to all (in the US about 40 million people do not have health care). Sometimes there are waiting times for elective procedures, but generally the care level is very good and my father says he is very happy with his health care in Canada.