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United States Energy and Economic Policy should be based on what is good for America and the citizens of America and not based on economic idealism or what is good for Brazil, India, and Dubai. To make my point about who is trying to influence our representatives I will quote some of a recent Barron's Commodities Corner dealing with a recent decline in sugar prices:

"The global sugar market has been saddled with a glut for years, since Brazil and India expanded cane output at mid decade. But a longer-term turnaround for sugar prices is expected..."

"Production in India is on the decline, where growers are planting more grains. Meanwhile, Braziliam sugar-based ethanol shipments to the U.S. have surged this year. It would be very bullish if the U.S. decides to reduce the 54-cents-a-gallon tarriff on Brazilian Ethanol. Sugar can in Brazil is grown on vast, contiguous fields, where labor and other inputs are cheaper than in the United States. India is aided by proximity to Dubai..."


P.S. What do you think used to be on those "vast, contiguous fields" of sugar cane in Brazil? (according to you and a recent Time magazine article corn based ethanol is responsible for deforestation...hmmm?)




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Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:09:12 -0400
United States Energy and Economic Policy should be based on what is good for America and the citizens of America and not based on economic idealism or what is good for Brazil, India, and Dubai. To make my point about who is trying to influence our representatives I will quote some of a recent Barron's Commodities Corner dealing with a recent decline in sugar prices:

"The global sugar market has been saddled with a glut for years, since Brazil and India expanded cane output at mid decade. But a longer-term turnaround for sugar prices is expected..."

"Production in India is on the decline, where growers are planting more grains. Meanwhile, Braziliam sugar-based ethanol shipments to the U.S. have surged this year. It would be very bullish if the U.S. decides to reduce the 54-cents-a-gallon tarriff on Brazilian Ethanol. Sugar can in Brazil is grown on vast, contiguous fields, where labor and other inputs are cheaper than in the United States. India is aided by proximity to Dubai..."


P.S. What do you think used to be on those "vast, contiguous fields" of sugar cane in Brazil? (according to you and a recent Time magazine article corn based ethanol is responsible for deforestation...hmmm?)




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Ethanol is not a good CO2 reducer...better than gasoline alone but not good

As far as the economics of subsidies...considerat... needs to be given to the formation of domestic capital, reduction of imports, state and local tax base support, etc. Let's not forget the economic devestation of farming communities from the 70's through the 80's and into the 90's...(anyone remember Farm Aid?)

The protection of and formation of domestic capital is a correct role of government within a capitalist democracy. I would even go a step further and say that the employment of government capital in the private sector to accomplish social and environmental goals which do not otherwise offer a competitive roe and/or roi is vital. I assume you agree and are argueing that the government's capital is better used elsewhere regarding CO2 emmisions?

My arguements in favor of corn based ethanol are primarily based in Nationalism both economically and politically....and a belief that the debate about corn based ethanol is primarily a matter of global vs. national economics. "In case you didn't notice, we just got our a**'s kicked" Corpral Hudson in the movie Aliens

P.S. the high demand for starch is primarily in the form of corn syrup for processed food products that without a great deal of sweetening are almost inedible....and in terms human terms about world hunger there is only a shortage of protein not sugar.]]>
Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:41:26 -0400
Ethanol is not a good CO2 reducer...better than gasoline alone but not good

As far as the economics of subsidies...considerat... needs to be given to the formation of domestic capital, reduction of imports, state and local tax base support, etc. Let's not forget the economic devestation of farming communities from the 70's through the 80's and into the 90's...(anyone remember Farm Aid?)

The protection of and formation of domestic capital is a correct role of government within a capitalist democracy. I would even go a step further and say that the employment of government capital in the private sector to accomplish social and environmental goals which do not otherwise offer a competitive roe and/or roi is vital. I assume you agree and are argueing that the government's capital is better used elsewhere regarding CO2 emmisions?

My arguements in favor of corn based ethanol are primarily based in Nationalism both economically and politically....and a belief that the debate about corn based ethanol is primarily a matter of global vs. national economics. "In case you didn't notice, we just got our a**'s kicked" Corpral Hudson in the movie Aliens

P.S. the high demand for starch is primarily in the form of corn syrup for processed food products that without a great deal of sweetening are almost inedible....and in terms human terms about world hunger there is only a shortage of protein not sugar.]]>
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