10 Stupid Moves That Created This Mess [View article]
The truth about the causes of the financial crisis in the UK is leaking out slowly. There is still some way to go.
The government said initially:
1. The crisis arose because of sub-prime lending in the US
2. Northern Rock's loan book was fine, but its dependence on wholesale borrowing was at fault
Subsequently, it has emerged Northern Rock's Together mortgage [1] was by no means the only bad lending occurring, so that the first part of [2] was simply not correct.
Speaking at this year’s Council of Mortgage Lender’s annual conference in London on Tuesday 2nd December, Vince Cable said, “the admission came after a dinner two years ago from the chief executive of one of the banks which is now part-nationalised.”
He said: “I had dinner with a chief executive of one of the now recently part-nationalised banks and we argued for an hour about his lending practices. Finally he accepted his bank’s lending was foolish and dangerous, but he would have been sacked by his board if he didn’t lend these mortgages.”
Cable told delegates that mortgage lenders were not the only ones to blame for the current financial turmoil.
He said: “It is easy to point fingers, but the political class are just as responsible for the situation. It has pursued irrational owner-occupier aspirations with ridiculous religious fervour and now the dream has burst very painfully.”
What we need to know is in what respect was the lending of the banks 'foolish and dangerous'?
If the CEO of a large bank was aware of it two years ago, who else knew?
On Wednesday 26th November 2008, in a debate in the House of Lords, Lord Myners [Parliamentary Secretary, HM Treasury] said, "foreclosures are higher in Northern Rock than in other mortgage lenders because its lending was more irresponsible. It is as simple as that."
Lord Turner, the FSA Chairman, had previously told the Treasury Committee of the House of Commons on Monday 3rd November 2008 that, "looking at the average figures at that time, whether it was loan to value ratios or whether it was the arrears' experience then being experienced, you would not necessarily have seen Northern Rock as an outlier in terms of quality of mortgages."
This seems to be the opposite of what Lord Myners is now saying.
Lord Myners is the first member of the government to admit that there was an inherent weakness in the Northern Rock loan book, though the description 'irresponsible' does not explain what the weakness was.
The Council of Mortgage Lenders Housing Finance Issue [November 2005 "Trends in mortgage borrowers' repayment difficulties"] explains, 'Married households tend to have the lowest incidence of repayment difficulties, whereas divorce and separation tend to increase mortgage repayment problems.'
Earlier research has suggested, 'You're more likely to get into serious debt because your relationship fails than by overspending........ A survey by Alliance & Leicester [in 2006] show[ed] that people who are divorced or separated owe twice as much as married people. A typical couple owes £5,200 on loans and credit cards between them - an average £2,600 apiece - while divorcees owe £5,000 each and the separated £6,300......... A [firm of] insolvency practitioners ..... found that 30 per cent of people with debt problems blamed divorce or relationship breakdown."
The financial crisis, both here in the UK and in the US, may well have been triggered by excessive lending to cohabiting couples whose relationships are significantly less stable than those of married couples. The easy credit was a contributory factor, but 'irresponsible' lending which was 'foolish and dangerous' to the increasing number of couples with unstable relationships was probably the prime cause.
What is becoming clearer is that the crisis is not just a 'sub prime' problem emanating from the US – as the government claimed at first - nor is it caused in the UK simply by over dependence by Northern Rock on the wholesale money market, nor is primarily the result of the creation of sophisticated but unstable financial instruments which have increased the availability of credit.
Since the taxpayer owns Northern Rock and the Bradford and Bingley, and now has a majority holding in RBS, surely it is only reasonable that these banks should reveal the marital status of those in arrears with their mortgage payments?
If we are going to understand the real nature of the crisis, the full facts should be published, not just a misleading subset of them.
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slowly. There is still some way to go.
The government said initially:
1. The crisis arose because of sub-prime lending in the US
2. Northern Rock's loan book was fine, but its dependence on
wholesale borrowing was at fault
Subsequently, it has emerged Northern Rock's Together mortgage [1]
was by no means the only bad lending occurring, so that the first
part of [2] was simply not correct.
Speaking at this year’s Council of Mortgage Lender’s annual
conference in London on Tuesday 2nd December, Vince Cable said,
“the admission came after a dinner two years ago from the chief
executive of one of the banks which is now part-nationalised.”
He said: “I had dinner with a chief executive of one of the now
recently part-nationalised banks and we argued for an hour about
his lending practices. Finally he accepted his bank’s lending was
foolish and dangerous, but he would have been sacked by his board
if he didn’t lend these mortgages.”
Cable told delegates that mortgage lenders were not the only ones
to blame for the current financial turmoil.
He said: “It is easy to point fingers, but the political class are
just as responsible for the situation. It has pursued irrational
owner-occupier aspirations with ridiculous religious fervour and
now the dream has burst very painfully.”
What we need to know is in what respect was the lending of the
banks 'foolish and dangerous'?
If the CEO of a large bank was aware of it two years ago, who else
knew?
On Wednesday 26th November 2008, in a debate in the House of Lords,
Lord Myners [Parliamentary Secretary, HM Treasury] said,
"foreclosures are higher in Northern Rock than in other mortgage
lenders because its lending was more irresponsible. It is as simple
as that."
Lord Turner, the FSA Chairman, had previously told the Treasury
Committee of the House of Commons on Monday 3rd November 2008 that, "looking at the average figures at that time, whether it was loan
to value ratios or whether it was the arrears' experience then
being experienced, you would not necessarily have seen Northern
Rock as an outlier in terms of quality of mortgages."
This seems to be the opposite of what Lord Myners is now saying.
Lord Myners is the first member of the government to admit that
there was an inherent weakness in the Northern Rock loan book,
though the description 'irresponsible' does not explain what the
weakness was.
The Council of Mortgage Lenders Housing Finance Issue [November
2005 "Trends in mortgage borrowers' repayment difficulties"]
explains, 'Married households tend to have the lowest incidence of
repayment difficulties, whereas divorce and separation tend to
increase mortgage repayment problems.'
Earlier research has suggested, 'You're more likely to get into
serious debt because your relationship fails than by
overspending........ A survey by Alliance & Leicester [in 2006]
show[ed] that people who are divorced or separated owe twice as
much as married people. A typical couple owes £5,200 on loans and
credit cards between them - an average £2,600 apiece - while
divorcees owe £5,000 each and the separated £6,300......... A [firm
of] insolvency practitioners ..... found that 30 per cent of people
with debt problems blamed divorce or relationship breakdown."
The financial crisis, both here in the UK and in the US, may well
have been triggered by excessive lending to cohabiting couples
whose relationships are significantly less stable than those of
married couples. The easy credit was a contributory factor, but
'irresponsible' lending which was 'foolish and dangerous' to the
increasing number of couples with unstable relationships was
probably the prime cause.
What is becoming clearer is that the crisis is not just a 'sub
prime' problem emanating from the US – as the government claimed at
first - nor is it caused in the UK simply by over dependence by
Northern Rock on the wholesale money market, nor is primarily the
result of the creation of sophisticated but unstable financial
instruments which have increased the availability of credit.
Since the taxpayer owns Northern Rock and the Bradford and Bingley,
and now has a majority holding in RBS, surely it is only reasonable
that these banks should reveal the marital status of those in
arrears with their mortgage payments?
If we are going to understand the real nature of the crisis, the
full facts should be published, not just a misleading subset of
them.