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China Blows a Double Bubble

Great article on Chinese stock market from people inside:

www.theepochtimes.com/...

Here is cut and paste of "The Truth about China’s Stock Market". Best part is the last paragraph which state thay China’s stock market is like gambling and China’s stock market is manipulated.

The Truth about China’s Stock Market
The truth about China’s stock market is actually not a secret, and most investors probably already knew it. That is, China’s stock market is a tool used by the government to re-distribute and re-organize social wealth on a grand scale, which means that it is a tool to clean out Chinese people’s savings accounts. The biggest winners in this process are, of course, government officials and their relatives who are the most well-informed about the actual value and re-organizing plans of those that control state wealth; as well as institutional investors who collaborate with them and who rely on insider tips to control the stock market. Those people have already made huge fortunes in the process. This is the truth about China’s stock market.

Actually, the goal of China’s stock market was not purely an economic one when it was originally established. When former Premier Zhu Rongji set up stock market in Shenzhen, he said that China’s stock market was meant to get money--to get money in the market and give it to companies that were unable to get money, and because these companies were unable to make money, they needed monetary support.

In Western countries, a fundamental criterion to allow a company to be listed is that the company must have performed well for at least three years while meeting other standards. The company must obtain approval from the Securities Regulatory Commission prior to issuing stock. Under supervision, the issued stock can also be pulled from the market to ensure and safeguard in particular small and medium sized investors.

China’s stock market has been established to operate like an ATM for the listed companies. For the majority of the listed companies, economic reform is nothing but a mechanism to trap money. Many heavily indebted State-owned companies have been listed in the stock market after re-packaging. All of a sudden, they become the new stars in the market with easy loans and finance. The foundation of a stock market is the listed companies. With a weak foundation, how can any high stock price be affordable? The deflation in stock prices is therefore predictable.

Other than the fact that the listed companies would benefit from the weak structure in the Chinese stock market, the true “beneficiary” of this contrived structure is the “interest group” who would profit from the initial establishment of a listed company and the trading thereafter. As for the investors, China’s stock market serves to mentally “entertain and exercise” them. It gets investors far more emotionally involved than any intellectual game could hope to.

In an interview after the market dived for several days prior to the Olympics, economist Tang Min points out that, “No economists can make sense of China’s stock market.”

“I’d advise the investors to give up the illusion that the government would restore the stock market or that the market will rebound. Escape China’s stock market while you can. If you insist on trying to profit from it, go ahead. However, do not complain if you are drained empty.”

Some say that entering China’s stock market is like gambling. That would be over-estimating the capacity of the Chinese stock market. Gambling relies on luck, and sometimes strategies—it still has fairness in it. However, China’s stock market is a manipulated and systematic black market. The majority of Chinese investors seem to have gradually recognized this. This could suggest that the end of this massive robbery is near

China Blows a Double Bubble

Faber recommends investing in Chinese stock market? Got links on that?

As for Mobius, his job at Templeton for last 15+ years has been pumping or more like pimping Asian stocks and his own mutual funds with little to show in terms of performance.

As for Rogers, let's just say he is getting senile in love with commodities and we all know what happened to commodities last summer and what is about to happen soon for the 2nd time. Bet he is shorting it now.

PS - Duh - Cu inventory dropping in London is due to stockpiling in China.