TomF75

Can Pontiac Turn Back the Wheel?

The only problem I have with your statement is you label the GTO an Aussie ripoff...Take a look at the window sticker on a G8 my friend! The G8 is actually the Holden Commodore (much like the goat was a Monaro).

www.holden.com.au/www-...

That being said, I think using Pontiac as a niche brand to distribute its exciting vehicles from Holden and Vauxhall is actually a great idea.


On Feb 20 09:36 AM oilcan821 wrote:

> if gm had made a retro gto instead of an aussie ripoff, i think pontiac
> would make it in today's world. it wouldn't be rocket science to
> take a g-8 platform, and put a '69 style front and rear end on it.
> with the cool hideaway headlights, judge striping, and things like
> hood scoops and tach. the drivelines are alot more peppy and reliable
> which in a retro body would sell as long as the price is affordable
> (start at low $20,000).

For Your Amusement: General Motors' Restructuring Plan

Is it really any surprise to anyone, that both of these zombies have their hands out already for more money. The govt should create one large company, call it Zombie Automotive & Finance, and throw C, GM, and Chrysler in it.

Then the govt can throw the finance wing TARP money, which can then be used to finance the cars sales, and the inventory that doesn't sell can be bought back by the government, and sent overseas as "Economic Aid" to some underpoverished 3rd world countries, or used as fleet vehicles for the Feds, then everyones happy...Best of all the taxpayer gets stiffed coming and going, its amazing no one on Capitol Hill has thought of this one already.

Detroit: Please Bring Back the Stripped Car

that should read 10,000 parts all made by the lowest bidder

Detroit: Please Bring Back the Stripped Car

Here's an even better idea for Detroit. Cut out the ridiculous gimmicks to begin with. All these schnooks keep complaining that we don't give them credit for their quality improvements. How am I supposed to take you seriously when, if I buy your car today...I can't guarantee you won't slash the price w/ some ridiculous "Employee Pricing" gimmick thus destroying my resale value. Additionally, I can't think of any Honda, Toyota, or Nissan buyers out there who walk onto a lot expecting 25% off MSRP. Well, you can certainly get that w/ Detroit. How am I suppossed to take your claims of quality seriously when you'll knock 30% off the price. Nothing IMHO cheapens Detroit's image more than this garbage. If you want to sell the car for $21,000 then just sell it at $21k. Don't price it at $25, then beg me to take it off your hands when you drop your pants.

Here's another suggestion, stop with the garbage plastic interiors. Last year I was actually considering the top model Pontiac G8 (w/ the large V-8). I set one foot in the car noticed that on a $30K car you got the same crummy interior that you got in a $15K Saturn. Thats pathetic...compare the interiors of a G8, Acura TL, Maxima (all cars in a similar price point) and tell me which one you'd rather sit in for 15-20,000 miles per year. To steal a quote from Jeremy Clarkson of Top Gear regarding the Chrysler Crossfire..."10,000 parts all made by the lowest bidder". That about sums up my opinion of 90% of what Detroit sells.