Commercial Real Estate - Make Up Your Own Mind [View article]
"Almost 60% of the loans out there, at least, were securitized in nature."
User,
I have to disagree with you on this. At the end of Q1 only 21.4% of CRE loans were securitized (MBA). New loans are getting done at 60% LTV for class A, infill markets. I wouldn't take Sam Zell's comments at face value either. Remember that he called a bottom in Residential real estate in Spring 2008.
On Aug 03 09:09 PM User 465743 wrote:
> Good article. But you are missing something. The lending at 60% is > a fantasy. If you have a Class A office building in a major city, > you may be 50%. If you have a hotel, a strip mall, a big box retail > center, an asset located in a small town, etc, forget it. There is > no financing. The banks are not lending the money that the Feds gave > them. The only money available, really is money for apartments from > HUD, Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac. Securitization expanded the credit > markets so that assets that previously did not get financed were > financed. Almost 60% of the loans out there, at least, were securitized > in nature. So, maybe TALF will work, but I don't see the same focus > on the dangers as I did when AIG was going bust. They focused on > housing first, because it is politically correct. But they are missing > the boat on commercial in terms of urgency and this will bring on > a double dip. Commercial real estate doesn't work without debt. And > the banks are not helping and the Feds are not helping. If there > is no debt, there is no market and values are suspect. The jobs multiplier > for commercial real estate is huge. Big players are taking advantage > of low Libor rates and sitting on assets. Debt service is being paid > but their values are in the tank. Zell is right. Eventually assets > have to be refinanced and it will be a bloodbath. Write your Congressman, > because they aren't focused on this and are clueless.
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User,
I have to disagree with you on this. At the end of Q1 only 21.4% of CRE loans were securitized (MBA). New loans are getting done at 60% LTV for class A, infill markets. I wouldn't take Sam Zell's comments at face value either. Remember that he called a bottom in Residential real estate in Spring 2008.
On Aug 03 09:09 PM User 465743 wrote:
> Good article. But you are missing something. The lending at 60% is
> a fantasy. If you have a Class A office building in a major city,
> you may be 50%. If you have a hotel, a strip mall, a big box retail
> center, an asset located in a small town, etc, forget it. There is
> no financing. The banks are not lending the money that the Feds gave
> them. The only money available, really is money for apartments from
> HUD, Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac. Securitization expanded the credit
> markets so that assets that previously did not get financed were
> financed. Almost 60% of the loans out there, at least, were securitized
> in nature. So, maybe TALF will work, but I don't see the same focus
> on the dangers as I did when AIG was going bust. They focused on
> housing first, because it is politically correct. But they are missing
> the boat on commercial in terms of urgency and this will bring on
> a double dip. Commercial real estate doesn't work without debt. And
> the banks are not helping and the Feds are not helping. If there
> is no debt, there is no market and values are suspect. The jobs multiplier
> for commercial real estate is huge. Big players are taking advantage
> of low Libor rates and sitting on assets. Debt service is being paid
> but their values are in the tank. Zell is right. Eventually assets
> have to be refinanced and it will be a bloodbath. Write your Congressman,
> because they aren't focused on this and are clueless.