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The Test of Wills at Boeing

Way to go Boeing strikers....your greed is causing American workers some real hardship that they did not choose....you chose it for them...and our economy needs you back to work....our company needs you back to work....are you so sick in the head that you enjoy the pain you are causing this great company, its suppliers and the entire country....I am ashamed of you...

Quoted from seekingalpha.com/artic...

"With the labor strike at Boeing's now entering its third week, Cramer said the real loser is not the aircraft maker or its employees but the company's suppliers. He put Boeing, along with all of its suppliers; squarely in the Thursday "Sell Block" segment. Cramer said with both sides of the labor dispute gearing for the long haul, Boeing's suppliers just cannot be owned. Included are:

Spirit AeroSystems, which derives 87% of its sales from the now idled Boeing, has already cut its workforce to a three-day work week and said layoffs are looming. The company will see a 6% hit to 2008 earnings if the strike lasts a month.

Rockwell Automation depends on Boeing for 14% of its sales. The company has just laid off 80 people.

Precision Castparts is Cramer’s favorite. Cramer said the company gets 17% of its sales from Boeing and will take a 1.7% earnings hit if the strike lasts a month.

Goodrich, maker of aircraft wheels and brakes, and composite maker, Hexcel, are at risk of big losses from a lengthy strike."

Boeing Braces for Potentially Long Workers' Strike

It is clear that unionites are pissed because they feel they have been jipped....this is the difference....
If a non unionite gets jipped he looks for employment elsewhere...if he finds a better offer he takes it and shifts the labor market in favor of the other company....Boeing would then need to consider its pay and benefits package and maybe raise them to attract employees from the labor market...but if he doesnt find it he relooks at his pay and benefits package and says maybe this isnt too bad....I am actually better off than I thought.

A unionite feels jipped and says to his "brother and sisters" (you sound like a cult by the way)...I feel jipped, dont you feel jipped?...I cant wait for 1,2, or 3 years for our contract to come due...I am going to "fight" this time...I am not going to be "disrespected"...I will strike if I have to and show them who is "boss"...we have the company by the "balls" this time we can really make them "hurt"...they will have to give in to our "demands"...

And alas, that is the disconnect. The non union member sells his labor individually in the labor market and "knows" what the real world is like and what he is worth.
The unionites never look out at the real world...they believe they are entitled to their "demands" because well you see they have all grouped together and they will really make you hurt if you do not comply...they never look out the window at what is happening in the real world...they never gain the perspective necessary to sound intelligent on labor issues or the economy...they do not know how much to ask for or what benefits are appropriate because they do not know what their labor "should" be worth on the open market.

I see you unionites as a bunch of adolescent bullies on a train that is flying down a track that ends in an abyss miles down the way...some of you do not care because you will be getting off the train (retiring) before it gets to the abyss...but most of you are too stupid to see the abyss for what it is...you believe the train conductor (your union leadership) who tell you the abyss is not really there....so willingly you keep feeding the coal to the furnace and speed up the process....such insanity

The Test of Wills at Boeing

On Strike Too

you have 25+ years of experience and come to Boeing obviously with your fired tail between you legs asking for a job...Boeing makes you an offer that you did "CHOOSE" and now you want to whine about it...please take you 25+ years of attitude someplace else...oh thats right no one else wants you...

Thank you for the insight by the way...if I could have started my career knowing that in 6 years I would be at 65k I would have been happy...that is what you idiots (I am using that as the nicest word I can think of) do not get...your whining sounds so pathetic to the rest of the country...so many people would be thankful to have the pay/benefits you have to do the labor you do...and if you cannot find enough GED candidates in Seattle than Boeing should move the plants to a better city/state...one that is not so nice to idiots...I mean unions.

The Test of Wills at Boeing

OnStrike

Good luck on your search and good riddance...the quicker we loose jack asses like you the healthier this company will be...what do you do...push premade wire packets into door frames, connect a couple cannon plugs and call it a day...skilled labor...what a laugh...whats the OJT 3 days?...

The Test of Wills at Boeing

I work my but off for Boeing and I am very thankful to have the benefits and pay that they offer....I sell my labor to them for what is a reasonable transfer of wealth....if Lockheed Martin offered me a better deal I would take it...that is how a healthy economy works....unions distort the healthy economy in two ways...they jack up the cost of labor not because there is a shortage of workers (believe me Boeing can get as many monkey wrench turners as it needs with the benefits package it offers...some thing you fools in Seattle do not understand)...but because enough idiots get together and say “if you do not give us more than we are worth than we will try to shut down your business and we do not care if we have jobs in the future because we are idiots and the one thing we are good at is being idiots and holding picketing signs, we had some good practice 3 years ago”.. and secondly the unions protect lazy workers that do not want to compete in a global competitive market place like the rest of us do...I am very disappointed with the attitude and foolishness of my fellow Boeing employees....I am rightly concerned with the strong competition that faces our company...27,000 greedy fools will willingly and boldly picket their possible doom...by the way there are bunch of us that helped with Boeings record "profits"...... you act like you union members deserve it all....you are dividing this company at a time when companies need to be extremely competitive....if I could fire you all myself I would and hire up employees with better attitudes that would be thankful to have a steady job with good benefits....there is something like 600,000 out there right now looking for jobs....in a way it is very sad that they cannot compete for your jobs....some poor family is without its source of primary income while you willingly go lazily sit on your butt and take an extended vacation waiting for the company to come and offer you more than you already deserve....econ 101 should be taught in Seattle....better go...I need my sleep because I need to get up and be a hard worker in the morning…you know that physical labor you union p*ssies whine about…America will loose its competitiveness with workers like you....sad really

One last note…I am working on my MBA which “evil” corporate Boeing is paying 100%...you have no idea how many workers in America wished that their “evil” company provided this benefit…I have worked for Raytheon and Lockheed Martin and neither one had a pension…Raytheon wanted $11,000 a year for family medical...unionites live in a world of their own and do not get the real world and how good they have it...I love quotes from 20 and 25 year union veterans that show their clear lack of knowledge of real world economics and business...saving American jobs my ass…you are part of the problem.

An Appeal for Sanity: Boeing's Impending Strike

I work my but off for Boeing and I am very thankful to have the benefits and pay that they offer....I sell my labor to them for what is a reasonable transfer of wealth....if Lockheed Martin offered me a better deal I would take it...that is how a healthy economy works....unions distort the healthy economy in two ways...they jack up the cost of labor not because there is a shortage of workers (believe me Boeing can get as many monkey wrench turners as it needs with the benefits package it offers...some thing you fools in Seattle do not understand)...but because enough idiots get together and say “if you do not give us more than we are worth than we will try to shut down your business and we do not care if we have jobs in the future because we are idiots and the one thing we are good at is being idiots and holding picketing signs, we had some good practice 3 years ago”.. and secondly the unions protect lazy workers that do not want to compete in a global competitive market place like the rest of us do...I am very disappointed with the attitude and foolishness of my fellow Boeing employees....I am rightly concerned with the strong competition that faces our company...27,000 greedy fools will willingly and boldly picket their possible doom...by the way there are bunch of us that helped with Boeings record "profits"...... you act like you union members deserve it all....you are dividing this company at a time when companies need to be extremely competitive....if I could fire you all myself I would and hire up employees with better attitudes that would be thankful to have a steady job with good benefits....there is something like 600,000 out there right now looking for jobs....in a way it is very sad that they cannot compete for your jobs....some poor family is without its source of primary income while you willingly go lazily sit on your butt and take an extended vacation waiting for the company to come and offer you more than you already deserve....econ 101 should be taught in Seattle....better go...I need my sleep because I need to get up and be a hard worker in the morning…you know that physical labor you union p*ssies whine about…America will loose its competitiveness with workers like you....sad really

One last note…I am working on my MBA which “evil” corporate Boeing is paying 100%...you have no idea how many workers in America wished that their “evil” company provided this benefit…I have worked for Raytheon and Lockheed Martin and neither one had a pension…Raytheon wanted $11,000 a year for family medical...unionites live in a world of their own and do not get the real world and how good they have it...I love quotes from 20 and 25 year union veterans that show their clear lack of knowledge of real world economics and business...saving American jobs my ass…you are part of the problem.

An Appeal for Sanity: Boeing's Impending Strike

I work my but off for Boeing and I am very thankful to have the benefits and pay that they offer....I sell my labor to them for what is a resonable transfer of wealth....if Lockheed Martin offered me a better deal I would take it...that is how a healthy economy works....unions distort the healthy economy in two ways...they jack up the cost of labor not because there is a shortage of workers (believe me Boeing can get as many monkey wrench turners as it needs with the benefits package it offers...some thing you fools in Seattle do not understand)...but because enough idiots get together and say if you do not give us more than we are worth than we will try to shut down your business and we do not care if we have jobs in the future.. and secondly the unions protect lazy workers that do not want to compete in a global competitive market place like the rest of us do...I am very disapointed with the attitude and foolishness of my fellow Boeing employees....I am concerned with the strong competition that faces our company...27000 greedy fools will willingly and boldly picket their possible doom.....by the way there are bunch of us that helped with Boeings record "profits"....you act like you union members deserve it all....you are dividing this company at a time when companies need to be extremely competitive....if I could fire you all myself I would and hire up employees with better attitudes that would be thankful to have a steady job with good benefits....there is something like 600,000 out there right now looking for jobs....in a way it is very sad that they cannot compete for your jobs....some poor family is without its source of primary income while you willingly go lazily sit on your butt and take an extended vacation waiting for the company to come and offer you more than you already deserve....econ 101 should be taught in Seattle....better go...I need my sleep because I need to get up and be a worker bee in the morning...something you lazy union people would never understand...America will loose its competitiveness with workers liek you....sad really....