The Hypocrisy and High Stakes of Healthcare Reform [View article]
Well said Bob.
On Oct 22 01:47 PM Bob 123 wrote:
> Medicare for all. period. > Everyone in, nobody out -- one big risk pool, and the bloodsucking > insurance companies (with their 30% profit margins) can go to hell. > > Medicare operates with a 3% overhead as opposed to the ridiculous > profit margins the insurance industry requires. > The U.S. government can and should negotiate drug costs with big-pharma, > as do all other government run systems around the world. We don't > need to pay their lobbying as well as their advertising costs to > pitch us Viagra. > One set of claims/paperwork for care, eliminating the immense beauracratic > overhead facing health-care providers as all the hundreds of plans > have their own forms, procedures, etc for filing claims. > Healthcare costs for employees would be removed from the backs of > business -- large or small, making it possible to hire U.S. workers > again and not be at such a disadvantage as it is now vs. hiring foreign > labor (who get healthcare provided by their respective governments). > > The cost savings of the above would be immense and every citizen > could expect quality, affordable care. > National healthcare for all U.S. citizens -- NOW.
The Hypocrisy and High Stakes of Healthcare Reform [View article]
yeah, let em eat cake.
On Oct 22 02:56 PM Teutonic Knight wrote:
> Now I understand what Obama meant when he stood on the podium in > the Fall of 2008 campaigning with that sign "CHANGE" underneath his > chin. > > For the so-called healthcare "Reform", you will see the following > CHANGE coming your way: - > > 1) The life-boat that now carries the number "Insured (or paid)" > will have to open up and suck in that extra 30 million "uninsured". > Nothing comes from nothing. Want to know what this means? <br/> > > The waiting room in your doctor's office will be more crowdier, the > time to book an appointment with your family doctor and specialist > will be longer. Forget about same day appointment now. > > 2) Your current dues on your healthcare cost will rise, and your > inocme tax will also rise to pay for the extra load. > > So now you understand what he meant by "CHANGE". > > I hope he doesn't short-changing me again. I voted for him last > year though. > > TK
The Hypocrisy and High Stakes of Healthcare Reform [View article]
Actually a great deal of the research used by drug companies is done by NIH and University mostly funded with your tax dollar.
On Oct 22 03:06 PM Windsun33 wrote:
> I bet that many of your foreign friends failed to mention that something > like 90% of all new drugs and medical procedures and equipment are > invented in the US, because the US is the only country that has health > care companies with profits to do any research. > > ... I'm not talking about 'reasonable'
The Hypocrisy and High Stakes of Healthcare Reform [View article]
Yes, in fact my wife went to Canada for eye laser surgery. I have had surgery in Mexico, My daughter has had surgery in Mexico. It cost a fraction of what it cost in the US and we are happy with the results. My brother in-law live in England and didn't bust his ass to come to the US for his recent heart surgery although he could have done had he wished.
On Oct 22 12:45 PM CLH wrote:
> This whole reform is unbelievable. America has the best health care > in the world. Does anyone go to Europe or Canada for health care?. > Of course not. They all come to America where the health care is > the best. The only way to cut costs is to privatise Medicare which > is a bankrupt disaster.
Where on the list of neonatal survival is the U.S.? Probably down below Tajikistan and Kazakstan, certainly below any of the Industrialized Nations.
On Jul 29 12:36 PM Henry Buttal wrote:
> While I agree there are issues with the current structure of private > healthcare, you have a number of your facts wrong. Especially facts > you just parrot from other sources. > > A simple search for peer reviewed research on infant mortality and > life expectancy would have allowed you to determine that the U.S. > in fact is not as low as the press would have you believe, but in > fact is in the top 5, with the differences from the often blogged > facts stemming from reporting anomolies - remember, these stats are > self-reported by the countries, who make the statistical decisions > and calculations. > > Of couse, if you want to believe that countries like anTajikistand > Kazakstan have higher literacy and better mortality rates than the > U.S., then be my guest...
The Hypocrisy and High Stakes of Healthcare Reform [View article]
On Oct 22 01:47 PM Bob 123 wrote:
> Medicare for all. period.
> Everyone in, nobody out -- one big risk pool, and the bloodsucking
> insurance companies (with their 30% profit margins) can go to hell.
>
> Medicare operates with a 3% overhead as opposed to the ridiculous
> profit margins the insurance industry requires.
> The U.S. government can and should negotiate drug costs with big-pharma,
> as do all other government run systems around the world. We don't
> need to pay their lobbying as well as their advertising costs to
> pitch us Viagra.
> One set of claims/paperwork for care, eliminating the immense beauracratic
> overhead facing health-care providers as all the hundreds of plans
> have their own forms, procedures, etc for filing claims.
> Healthcare costs for employees would be removed from the backs of
> business -- large or small, making it possible to hire U.S. workers
> again and not be at such a disadvantage as it is now vs. hiring foreign
> labor (who get healthcare provided by their respective governments).
>
> The cost savings of the above would be immense and every citizen
> could expect quality, affordable care.
> National healthcare for all U.S. citizens -- NOW.
The Hypocrisy and High Stakes of Healthcare Reform [View article]
On Oct 22 02:56 PM Teutonic Knight wrote:
> Now I understand what Obama meant when he stood on the podium in
> the Fall of 2008 campaigning with that sign "CHANGE" underneath his
> chin.
>
> For the so-called healthcare "Reform", you will see the following
> CHANGE coming your way: -
>
> 1) The life-boat that now carries the number "Insured (or paid)"
> will have to open up and suck in that extra 30 million "uninsured".
> Nothing comes from nothing. Want to know what this means? <br/>
>
> The waiting room in your doctor's office will be more crowdier, the
> time to book an appointment with your family doctor and specialist
> will be longer. Forget about same day appointment now.
>
> 2) Your current dues on your healthcare cost will rise, and your
> inocme tax will also rise to pay for the extra load.
>
> So now you understand what he meant by "CHANGE".
>
> I hope he doesn't short-changing me again. I voted for him last
> year though.
>
> TK
The Hypocrisy and High Stakes of Healthcare Reform [View article]
On Oct 22 03:06 PM Windsun33 wrote:
> I bet that many of your foreign friends failed to mention that something
> like 90% of all new drugs and medical procedures and equipment are
> invented in the US, because the US is the only country that has health
> care companies with profits to do any research.
>
> ... I'm not talking about 'reasonable'
The Hypocrisy and High Stakes of Healthcare Reform [View article]
On Oct 22 12:45 PM CLH wrote:
> This whole reform is unbelievable. America has the best health care
> in the world. Does anyone go to Europe or Canada for health care?.
> Of course not. They all come to America where the health care is
> the best. The only way to cut costs is to privatise Medicare which
> is a bankrupt disaster.
'Blue-Dogging' Health Care [View article]
On Jul 29 12:36 PM Henry Buttal wrote:
> While I agree there are issues with the current structure of private
> healthcare, you have a number of your facts wrong. Especially facts
> you just parrot from other sources.
>
> A simple search for peer reviewed research on infant mortality and
> life expectancy would have allowed you to determine that the U.S.
> in fact is not as low as the press would have you believe, but in
> fact is in the top 5, with the differences from the often blogged
> facts stemming from reporting anomolies - remember, these stats are
> self-reported by the countries, who make the statistical decisions
> and calculations.
>
> Of couse, if you want to believe that countries like anTajikistand
> Kazakstan have higher literacy and better mortality rates than the
> U.S., then be my guest...