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  • What's Happened To Apple's Quality Control? [View article]
    Jocca,

    you couldn't be more wrong about the above reply.

    First, a huge number of androids get upgrades for next releases. I bought an HTC rezound with 2.3 and 8 month later I'm running 4.0. And there are many examples like this.

    Furthermore, Android does not have more bugs than Apple. iOS has plenty. Just check the various forums.

    Next, If you're going to quote an article about DoD getting off blackberry - please do so with honesty:
    http://wapo.st/Rrf4Si

    The DoD is going to be buying BOTH iPhones AND Android. So there goes your slam against Android.

    And lastly, to remind you Android has 65% of the smartphone market. That's the consumer choice. So 2 out of 3 people go for an Android phone rather than an iPhone.

    The iPhone has at least as many security issues with it as Android:
    http://bit.ly/UXuORl

    Seems to me you're coming from ignorance with your viewpoint on Android. Please get educated before you post.
    Oct 29, 2012. 12:16 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • What's Happened To Apple's Quality Control? [View article]
    @ItsAllGreek,

    1) Like I said, we have both platforms at the shop and whereas Android used to have more issues with reliability a coupe of years ago, I would venture to say that reliability now is at least comparable, in some cases better, the iOS. But I concur this has been a strength of iOS vs. Android in the past.

    2) Clearly, iOS appeals to a certain smartphone user profile that prefers a closed ecosystem and minimal customization at the user interface level. I think that's why SOME people swear by iOS. On the other hand, it looks like the majority of people prefer the openess and custom-ability of Android. I think this trend will only increase as people become more and more comfortable with smartphone technology. Since this thread is all about AAPL's future prospects - this would be my chief argument that AAPL will lose some of it's dominance = lower share price. And I concur with your point #4 which supports this argument.
    3) Agreed but with the above caveat regarding growth

    Thanks for the good dialog!
    Oct 1, 2012. 02:30 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • What's Happened To Apple's Quality Control? [View article]
    @rocback,

    Walt Mossberg?? seriously? the guy is older than my grandpa and what he knows about technology is probably about as much as my grandpa.

    Anyone that thinks iOS/iPhone is the best smartphone out there is out of touch with technology.
    Sep 30, 2012. 04:20 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • What's Happened To Apple's Quality Control? [View article]
    @ItsAllGreek,

    I don't have any position in AAPL, or GOOG for that matter. I believe AAPL will continue to go up for a while but in the long-term (2+ years) I see an AAPL decline (although not to $100 level but maybe back to $500/share) for the above reasons.

    And I'm not confused at all about why people are hooked on AAPL.(to remind you - we have AAPL hardware in our shop since we develop on it).

    It's non-technology-savvy folks that are very much about "cool" and being "hip" factor, that are willing to settle for a simpler, less flexible smartphone experience. And I'd give AAPL this much: their product packaging is excellent, but like I said above: iOS is simply years behind Android and now AAPL is copying Android to catch up (e.g. new alert system is almost a mirror copy of Android).

    As long as AAPL maintains it's arrogant and closed-ecosystem approach - they will never be #1 in market share, or see as wide adoption as open platforms like Android, hence my long term projection that the hype around AAPL will die down in time.
    Sep 30, 2012. 04:14 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • What's Happened To Apple's Quality Control? [View article]
    @itsAllGreek,

    There's clearly a winner in the smartphone war as you put and that's Android and the simple reason is freedom of CHOICE and variation. You can pick an Android with a 3" display or a 5" display and everything in between. You can upgrade your Android phone to have more memory with an SD card without having to replace the entire phone. How about using a Swype keyboard that saves thousands of keystrokes? iPhone = Not Available. Android = At least a dozen free keyboards to chose from. The list goes on and on.

    Furthermore, you're not locked into the AAPL expensive ecosystem. On Android you can enjoy itunes music, google music and host of others.(as an example).

    I have owned several Androids and 1 iPhone 4S. The restrictions of iOS are mind boggling and even more amazing that so many people just accept them in lieu of having the "cool" factor once associated with the iPhone.

    My main beef with AAPL is that they're not a customer-centric company. In their arrogance they think they know what's best for the consumer at every level and that's simply not the case as evident by all the unresolved complains and issues on their forum.

    Here's a simple example of AAPL incompetence:
    http://bit.ly/Rr6B2v
    "So why did Apple avoid fixing this issue? Given the incredibly thin design of the iPhone 5, Apple likely didn’t have any way to include an extra antenna. And since it was a fix only necessary for Verizon and Sprint, the company opted for a thinner design for the majority of users around the world rather than compromising to appease a few consumers."

    You mean 130 Million Users are FEW consumers?? and why so they can claim the phone is thin??

    EVERY Android phone with LTE can do simultaneous voice/data.
    Sep 29, 2012. 05:54 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • What's Happened To Apple's Quality Control? [View article]
    @ItsAllGreek,

    As the owner of an app development company, for both platforms I can easily prove and demonstrate that there are some major shortfalls in iOS functionality and features. And even more mind boggling, iOS is missing some basic key functionality as a PHONE. features that are all easily available on Android.

    Don't know if you've taken the time to look at some recent Android phones but they are have outstanding display, battery life, and are extremely fast - easily on par with iphone5 and better.
    Sep 29, 2012. 12:39 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • What's Happened To Apple's Quality Control? [View article]
    @craignotgreg,

    I see your point and concur with your last statement re "worst iteration ever". Clearly, the iPhone5 is better in everyway the the 3rd gen or prior.
    Sep 28, 2012. 08:37 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • What's Happened To Apple's Quality Control? [View article]
    @itsAllGreek,

    I was getting at usable consumer features, not lab test that have little meaning to the man (or woman) in the street.

    Androids have had larger screens, replaceable batteries, SD card slots, LTE support and social integration for a long time (in mobile evolution terms).

    There are also STILL some basic phone functions that iOS doesn't offer and again are available on any android phone.
    Sep 28, 2012. 08:35 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • What's Happened To Apple's Quality Control? [View article]
    Correct - iPhone is merely a catch up product for Apple: slightly bigger screen, LTE support and better FB social integration. All features that Android phone have had for 1+ years.
    Sep 28, 2012. 06:18 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • What's Happened To Apple's Quality Control? [View article]
    zd2002 -

    "a quick reminder that it's Android that has 68% market share in the mobile space, NOT AAPL"
    Also a quick reminder: Apple has 75% profit share of the smart phone industry. Smaller box, but bigger cake. I like that.
    >>AT THE MOMENT. SEE MY LAST COMMENT.

    "Does Tim Cook & Co have the balls to take such a huge risk as to invest heavily in something unknown? ... Not so sure about Mr. Cook"
    Right, you haven't seen Cook's hands, so you must call it bluff.
    >>WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU HEARD JOBS APOLOGIZE IN PUBLIC FOR A PRODUCT MISHAP? my point is that Jobs had a lot less to lose when he bet on the iPhone. There's a whole lot more to lose now which would make any CEO very cautious about taking big risks. Also, Jobs was a product guy. Cook is not. iPhone 5 is not even an evolution - it's a catch up: bigger screen and LTE, more FB integration. Android phones have had that for at least 1.5 years. Until AAPL comes out with a whole new innovative product (no, not iPad mini!) there's no reason to believe they're capable of it.

    "What goes up, must come down"
    Applies to Android and its 68% market share too I guess?
    >>YES, there's no doubt WindowsPhone8 and possibly RIMM as well as a new player (Samsung?) will grab some market share from both Android and iOS. The main advantage Android has over the others is that it's an open platform and literally anyone can adopt it and customize it to be used on any hardware. Also GOOG main source of income is NOT hardware or the OS - so the impact on the share price will be minimal if any. Not so for AAPL that has most of it's revenue come from one single device. You have to agree that's huge exposure for AAPL, if they screw up with future iPhone iterations.
    Sep 28, 2012. 05:50 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • What's Happened To Apple's Quality Control? [View article]
    A lot of you apple fan boys that can never see any wrong with anything that's AAPL made - a quick reminder that it's Android that has 68% market share in the mobile space, NOT AAPL.

    More to the point, when the iPhone was launched in 2007 - it had ZERO competitors. For the next 3-4 years Google Android was becoming mature and for the past 2 or so it's become the dominating platform with a Million phones activated daily. And now Android surpasses iOS in it's features by enlarge (I can already see how many comments I'll get on this one but trust me I'm in the mobile app development and we write apps for both platforms so I KNOW).

    This means AAPL cannot benefit from an unchallenged market place as it did before and inevitably their ability to grow will be highly affected, UNLESS they come out with another ground-breaking innovative product like the iPhone was at the time.

    Does Tim Cook & Co have the balls to take such a huge risk as to invest heavily in something unknown? Do they have the vision to figure out what that next thing is? Steve Jobs did. Not so sure about
    Mr Cook. And like several others commentators my hedge is against Cook, being an OPS guy.

    And finally, all you guys that think AAPL is invincible - WAKE UP - no company is. Just look at RIMM if you need a reminder.

    "What goes up, must come down" - nature's law and it's just a question of time before AAPL see's this law work on it's stock. (Not saying $100/share or in the short term but some significant retraction in the long term).
    Sep 28, 2012. 04:40 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
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