Shotei's Comments Shotei's Comments RSS Syndication from SeekingAlpha.com http://seekingalpha.comuser/260790/comments When Do Regulations Turn Private Insurance into Government Insurance? http://seekingalpha.com/article/178041-when-do-regulations-turn-private-insurance-into-government-insurance?source=feed#comment-806720 806720 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:48:40 -0500 Global Warming Models: 'Out of Order'? http://seekingalpha.com/article/175575-global-warming-models-out-of-order?source=feed#comment-780713 780713

On Nov 28 08:46 AM john s. gordon wrote:

> well CO2 does provide substance for plant growth, but there are many
> other nutrients (K,P,N,B,Mo & more) required for healthy plant
> growth. read the label on your bottle of miraclegro, they are all
> there.
> we have been tracking atmospheric CO2 readings from the mauna loa
> observatory since about 1935. the trend is clear.
> while AGW is not yet proven, the glaciers & arctic icecap are
> telling us something.
> the destination if we are not careful is major land submersion, a
> new carboniferous age & lots of new coalbeds to be mined 65 million
> years from now - by somebody, probably not us.]]>
Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:36:41 -0500

On Nov 28 08:46 AM john s. gordon wrote:

> well CO2 does provide substance for plant growth, but there are many
> other nutrients (K,P,N,B,Mo & more) required for healthy plant
> growth. read the label on your bottle of miraclegro, they are all
> there.
> we have been tracking atmospheric CO2 readings from the mauna loa
> observatory since about 1935. the trend is clear.
> while AGW is not yet proven, the glaciers & arctic icecap are
> telling us something.
> the destination if we are not careful is major land submersion, a
> new carboniferous age & lots of new coalbeds to be mined 65 million
> years from now - by somebody, probably not us.]]>
Global Warming Models: 'Out of Order'? http://seekingalpha.com/article/175575-global-warming-models-out-of-order?source=feed#comment-780707 780707

On Nov 28 11:03 AM robdoc wrote:

> The scientific process entails formulating a hypothesis and then
> checking how that compares with the data involved in the process.
> It is sometimes befuddling when the data does not conform to what
> would be expected within the confines and understanding of the working
> hypothesis. Just because a model does not fully describe the data
> does not mean that the model itself is totally wrong. Einstein proposed
> the theory of relativity which currently does not account for all
> observable phenomena on subatomic levels. String theory more accurately
> accounts for these phenomena. The logic that the author uses would
> imply that Einstein is a simpleton.
>
> Most climate scientists believe that CO2 is and will have an impact
> on the climate and the earth in the coming years. To say that these
> scientists are stupid because their hypothesis doesn't completely
> match up with the observed phenomena is to not understand that the
> scientific method is one of testing and further refining. Indeed,
> there may be another variable at play that has yet to be accounted
> for, however, this does not obviate the various other interactions
> that are know to occur.
>
> Further,
> The author loses a fair amount of credibility when he states:
> "1. CO2 is tremendously beneficial. The more we have of it the better
> plants grow. Suppressing it is simply foolish." I wonder how the
> author would feel if he were in a room of 100% CO2?
>
> Finally,
> Discrediting scientists with the argument about "cosmic rays" without
> further refining or explaining said rays is not the height of scientific
> disputing.]]>
Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:31:20 -0500

On Nov 28 11:03 AM robdoc wrote:

> The scientific process entails formulating a hypothesis and then
> checking how that compares with the data involved in the process.
> It is sometimes befuddling when the data does not conform to what
> would be expected within the confines and understanding of the working
> hypothesis. Just because a model does not fully describe the data
> does not mean that the model itself is totally wrong. Einstein proposed
> the theory of relativity which currently does not account for all
> observable phenomena on subatomic levels. String theory more accurately
> accounts for these phenomena. The logic that the author uses would
> imply that Einstein is a simpleton.
>
> Most climate scientists believe that CO2 is and will have an impact
> on the climate and the earth in the coming years. To say that these
> scientists are stupid because their hypothesis doesn't completely
> match up with the observed phenomena is to not understand that the
> scientific method is one of testing and further refining. Indeed,
> there may be another variable at play that has yet to be accounted
> for, however, this does not obviate the various other interactions
> that are know to occur.
>
> Further,
> The author loses a fair amount of credibility when he states:
> "1. CO2 is tremendously beneficial. The more we have of it the better
> plants grow. Suppressing it is simply foolish." I wonder how the
> author would feel if he were in a room of 100% CO2?
>
> Finally,
> Discrediting scientists with the argument about "cosmic rays" without
> further refining or explaining said rays is not the height of scientific
> disputing.]]>
Global Warming Models: 'Out of Order'? http://seekingalpha.com/article/175575-global-warming-models-out-of-order?source=feed#comment-780702 780702

On Nov 28 11:06 AM wgcamp wrote:

> Someone should tell the seals and polar bears that the ice underneath
> them is not really melting. Then they could stop swimming.]]>
Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:23:11 -0500

On Nov 28 11:06 AM wgcamp wrote:

> Someone should tell the seals and polar bears that the ice underneath
> them is not really melting. Then they could stop swimming.]]>
Global Warming Models: 'Out of Order'? http://seekingalpha.com/article/175575-global-warming-models-out-of-order?source=feed#comment-780699 780699 You say....."do you really think all that CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere
> is doing no harm and never will?"...........thats exactly right. The Earth is a big place, it's a perfectly balanced ecosystem. As we create more CO2 the Earth compensates for it over a long time. If we reduce CO2 by 80% like the politicians want in the next 40 years ( which is impossible) the Earth could not adjust that fast and the reduced CO2 would start to kill off all the plant life leading to less oxygen and food for us and other animal life forms. It would snowball and be impossible to stop.


On Nov 28 08:35 AM stocknerd wrote:

> I think the skeptics are going to believe what they want. The arch
> conservatives would never believe global warming because it was first
> made popular by a liberal. What next doubters, The sun revolves around
> the Earth? Or Darwin is wrong. I mean all you doubting Thomas types,
> do you really think all that CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere
> is doing no harm and never will? Science is the new religion and
> you are all praying to old gods. Good luck. Your children's children
> will curse and laugh at you.]]>
Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:13:37 -0500 You say....."do you really think all that CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere
> is doing no harm and never will?"...........thats exactly right. The Earth is a big place, it's a perfectly balanced ecosystem. As we create more CO2 the Earth compensates for it over a long time. If we reduce CO2 by 80% like the politicians want in the next 40 years ( which is impossible) the Earth could not adjust that fast and the reduced CO2 would start to kill off all the plant life leading to less oxygen and food for us and other animal life forms. It would snowball and be impossible to stop.


On Nov 28 08:35 AM stocknerd wrote:

> I think the skeptics are going to believe what they want. The arch
> conservatives would never believe global warming because it was first
> made popular by a liberal. What next doubters, The sun revolves around
> the Earth? Or Darwin is wrong. I mean all you doubting Thomas types,
> do you really think all that CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere
> is doing no harm and never will? Science is the new religion and
> you are all praying to old gods. Good luck. Your children's children
> will curse and laugh at you.]]>
What the Senate Health Bill Will Really Cost http://seekingalpha.com/article/174535-what-the-senate-health-bill-will-really-cost?source=feed#comment-770613 770613 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:10:57 -0500 Duke Energy Plans Offshore Wind Pilot Project http://seekingalpha.com/article/165143-duke-energy-plans-offshore-wind-pilot-project?source=feed#comment-707355 707355 Last week I received an e-mail from Duke wanting an extra $4 to $8 a month for this Carbon offset program, to reduce my carbon footprint. I wrote back asking how me giving them and extra $8 a month would make me use less electricity but I haven't heard back yet. I also ask them to stop trying to scam their customers, and trying to collect money to pay for Obama's Cap and Trade tax (carbon credits). Our electric bills are going to triple here soon enough without starting early. After reading this article the money is probably to help pay for the windmills. ]]> Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:55:01 -0400 Last week I received an e-mail from Duke wanting an extra $4 to $8 a month for this Carbon offset program, to reduce my carbon footprint. I wrote back asking how me giving them and extra $8 a month would make me use less electricity but I haven't heard back yet. I also ask them to stop trying to scam their customers, and trying to collect money to pay for Obama's Cap and Trade tax (carbon credits). Our electric bills are going to triple here soon enough without starting early. After reading this article the money is probably to help pay for the windmills. ]]> Pundits Are Wrong: Healthcare Reform Will Increase Profits http://seekingalpha.com/article/161927-pundits-are-wrong-healthcare-reform-will-increase-profits?source=feed#comment-680782 680782

On Sep 17 11:04 AM skwestorange wrote:

> This claim/opinion is just seems to be a misinformed fear. Many States
> now have for-profit and not-for-profit insurance providers competing
> and doing so with profit, growth and innovation. New Jersey is one
> such State and so are CA and WA.]]>
Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:54:54 -0400

On Sep 17 11:04 AM skwestorange wrote:

> This claim/opinion is just seems to be a misinformed fear. Many States
> now have for-profit and not-for-profit insurance providers competing
> and doing so with profit, growth and innovation. New Jersey is one
> such State and so are CA and WA.]]>
Pundits Are Wrong: Healthcare Reform Will Increase Profits http://seekingalpha.com/article/161927-pundits-are-wrong-healthcare-reform-will-increase-profits?source=feed#comment-680636 680636 Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:51:13 -0400 Health Care: Public vs. Private and the Impact on Health Plan Stocks http://seekingalpha.com/article/161207-health-care-public-vs-private-and-the-impact-on-health-plan-stocks?source=feed#comment-674393 674393 Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:49:58 -0400 The Healthcare 'Rationing' Canard http://seekingalpha.com/article/157276-the-healthcare-rationing-canard?source=feed#comment-639918 639918 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:22:45 -0400 Carbon Trading Set to Triple by 2012 http://seekingalpha.com/article/147241-carbon-trading-set-to-triple-by-2012?source=feed#comment-577218 577218 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:03:55 -0400 Tar Sands: How Much Is Out There and Can Nuclear Help? http://seekingalpha.com/article/121920-tar-sands-how-much-is-out-there-and-can-nuclear-help?source=feed#comment-577194 577194 The only way to extract oil cleanly. Zero water used (no steam needed). Zero emissions. Canada has already pruchased 5 of thier 1 ton machines. The machines extract oil, diesel fuel, several types of gases from anything made from oil, like plastics, rubber tires..ect...they are consentrating on tires right now because of Obama pushing windmills. ]]> Tue, 07 Jul 2009 11:53:35 -0400 The only way to extract oil cleanly. Zero water used (no steam needed). Zero emissions. Canada has already pruchased 5 of thier 1 ton machines. The machines extract oil, diesel fuel, several types of gases from anything made from oil, like plastics, rubber tires..ect...they are consentrating on tires right now because of Obama pushing windmills. ]]> Spain: Highest Unemployment Rate in EU at 18.7% http://seekingalpha.com/article/147153-spain-highest-unemployment-rate-in-eu-at-18-7?source=feed#comment-577158 577158 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 11:35:48 -0400 Double Shale Play in Energy Approaches: EnCana and Continental Resources http://seekingalpha.com/article/141375-double-shale-play-in-energy-approaches-encana-and-continental-resources?source=feed#comment-533280 533280 www.globalresourcecorp.../]]> Fri, 05 Jun 2009 09:22:49 -0400 www.globalresourcecorp.../]]> 12 Stocks in Focus for the Obama Era http://seekingalpha.com/article/137953-12-stocks-in-focus-for-the-obama-era?source=feed#comment-507507 507507 80% of the wind turbines sold in the U.S. are made here. Obama doesn't want us to buy from them he's pushing a turbine company in Spain.]]> Sun, 17 May 2009 15:52:53 -0400 80% of the wind turbines sold in the U.S. are made here. Obama doesn't want us to buy from them he's pushing a turbine company in Spain.]]> Eli Lilly CEO on Nationalized Health Insurance: Cost Effectiveness Stifles Innovation http://seekingalpha.com/article/137773-eli-lilly-ceo-on-nationalized-health-insurance-cost-effectiveness-stifles-innovation?source=feed#comment-505358 505358 Fri, 15 May 2009 11:49:52 -0400 The Impending Mother of All Oil Shocks http://seekingalpha.com/article/133184-the-impending-mother-of-all-oil-shocks?source=feed#comment-479219 479219

On Apr 27 09:16 AM I need more cowbell wrote:

> You lost me at global warming. Anyone who uses the BIG LIE in any
> article does, I have to look ascance at any author's opinions on
> any other topic if he is not bright enough to understand such a transparent
> scam.]]>
Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:41:39 -0400

On Apr 27 09:16 AM I need more cowbell wrote:

> You lost me at global warming. Anyone who uses the BIG LIE in any
> article does, I have to look ascance at any author's opinions on
> any other topic if he is not bright enough to understand such a transparent
> scam.]]>
The Obama Effect: Is Clean Energy Outperforming the Market? http://seekingalpha.com/article/133243-the-obama-effect-is-clean-energy-outperforming-the-market?source=feed#comment-479073 479073 Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:39:34 -0400 Tang Capital Partners' Proxy Statement for Vanda Pharmaceuticals Calls for Liquidation http://seekingalpha.com/article/130370-tang-capital-partners-proxy-statement-for-vanda-pharmaceuticals-calls-for-liquidation?source=feed#comment-458849 458849 Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:41:13 -0400 Three Things Obama Will Do to Advance Alternative Energy http://seekingalpha.com/article/110893-three-things-obama-will-do-to-advance-alternative-energy?source=feed#comment-332375 332375 Your first paragragh tells us all how stupid we are and then your rant begins, coal is killing 24000 americans a year more than homicides and AIDS combined. Since there are over 16000 homicides and over 15000 Aids related deaths per year that pretty much makes the rest of your speech, crap.]]> Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:29:22 -0500 Your first paragragh tells us all how stupid we are and then your rant begins, coal is killing 24000 americans a year more than homicides and AIDS combined. Since there are over 16000 homicides and over 15000 Aids related deaths per year that pretty much makes the rest of your speech, crap.]]> Three Things Obama Will Do to Advance Alternative Energy http://seekingalpha.com/article/110893-three-things-obama-will-do-to-advance-alternative-energy?source=feed#comment-331317 331317 Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:39:35 -0500 Three Things Obama Will Do to Advance Alternative Energy http://seekingalpha.com/article/110893-three-things-obama-will-do-to-advance-alternative-energy?source=feed#comment-331271 331271 I hope your right about Obama, I'm neither Dem. or Rep.
I go with the one with the most ideas I agree with. I'd love to have a windmill in my back yard and solar panels on the roof, but, for the cost of one windmill I could pay my gas bill for the next 65 years. I didn't make that number up. And, yes I know your talking about wind farms that supply whole cities. I live in Indiana, not enough wind or sun to supply electricty for this area meaning my energy would have to come from out west and travel 1000 miles. The cost to boost the power to get to areas like mine would make it impossible. Maybe after the ozone is burnt off, solar power will be cost efficent.
If Obama does half of what he promised I'll jump on the band wagon with both feet. He would be the first president to accomplish it.

On Dec 16 01:52 PM frflyer wrote:

> Fred Banks
>
> Where do you get your pearls of wisdom? Wind power is cheap, quick
> to build and green. What's wrong with that.
>
> The dept of energy says we could have 20% wind power by 2030. <br/>Solar
> could be a bigger percentage by then.
>
> "I'd put my money on the sun &amp; solar energy. What a source of
> power! I hope we don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before
> we tackle that."
> Thomas Edison, 1931
> Now there's a wise man.
>
> genea
>
> The President can't dictate what companies benefit from an alternative
> energy revolution. What he can do is provide the right incentives
> so Americans can develop new companies and compete.
> Lack of govt support for alternative energy has put us in a catch
> up mode vis a vis the rest of the world. We had 50% of the wind power
> market until Republicans pulled the govt funding in the 80s. It's
> no accident that the largest PV makers are all overseas.
> What people don't understand is that it's the massive subsidies for
> oil, coal, gas and nuclear that make it so hard for alternatives
> to compete.
>
> thmime
> We can't drill our way to energy independence. Impossible! If we
> pumped every barrel of oil reserves off the California coast it would
> give us enough oil for 16 months at U.S. consumption rates.
>
>
> What will give us energy independence is energy that needs no fuel
> ever. No fuel ever to mine, prospect for, refine, transport, store,
> burn, clean up the pollution from, or fight wars over.
> The hidden costs of oil and gas and coal are in the hundreds of billions
> every year.
> They cost plenty over and above the energy prices you pay. Solar
> and wind will be as cheap before long, even without considering those
> hidden costs of fossil fuels. At which point they will actually be
> far cheaper in the big picture.
>
> Shotei
> I believe you are wrong. Obama will make energy a priority because
> it will solve 4 issues at once, economy, energy, environment, and
> national security.
> No more wars over oil.
> Are you talking about the war that Bush and co planned before 911?
> The war that they lied about to fool us into supporting. The one
> where they cherry picked intelligence that supported their agenda?
> The war that has nearly bankrupted our country? The one where we
> invaded a sovereign country that hadn't attacked us? The one where
> we invaded the one and only Muslim country that didn't have Al Queda
> operating?
> Oh, that war.
>
> This won't be like the Bush administration that did everything in
> it's power to block environmental progress. We won't have science
> being censored and hushed up to fit an agenda. We won't have an administratioin
> that works hand in hand with big oil to confuse the public debate
> about climate change and energy solutions.
> Read the books "The Heat is On"
> and "Censoring Science" What they did is criminal. The Bush administration
> even asked a conservative think tank to sue the administration, in
> order to prevent scientific facts from being brought up in a senate
> debate, so they would appear to not have a hand in this particular
> instance of censoring science. A memo was discovered later that proved
> this.]]>
Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:39:36 -0500 I hope your right about Obama, I'm neither Dem. or Rep.
I go with the one with the most ideas I agree with. I'd love to have a windmill in my back yard and solar panels on the roof, but, for the cost of one windmill I could pay my gas bill for the next 65 years. I didn't make that number up. And, yes I know your talking about wind farms that supply whole cities. I live in Indiana, not enough wind or sun to supply electricty for this area meaning my energy would have to come from out west and travel 1000 miles. The cost to boost the power to get to areas like mine would make it impossible. Maybe after the ozone is burnt off, solar power will be cost efficent.
If Obama does half of what he promised I'll jump on the band wagon with both feet. He would be the first president to accomplish it.

On Dec 16 01:52 PM frflyer wrote:

> Fred Banks
>
> Where do you get your pearls of wisdom? Wind power is cheap, quick
> to build and green. What's wrong with that.
>
> The dept of energy says we could have 20% wind power by 2030. <br/>Solar
> could be a bigger percentage by then.
>
> "I'd put my money on the sun &amp; solar energy. What a source of
> power! I hope we don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before
> we tackle that."
> Thomas Edison, 1931
> Now there's a wise man.
>
> genea
>
> The President can't dictate what companies benefit from an alternative
> energy revolution. What he can do is provide the right incentives
> so Americans can develop new companies and compete.
> Lack of govt support for alternative energy has put us in a catch
> up mode vis a vis the rest of the world. We had 50% of the wind power
> market until Republicans pulled the govt funding in the 80s. It's
> no accident that the largest PV makers are all overseas.
> What people don't understand is that it's the massive subsidies for
> oil, coal, gas and nuclear that make it so hard for alternatives
> to compete.
>
> thmime
> We can't drill our way to energy independence. Impossible! If we
> pumped every barrel of oil reserves off the California coast it would
> give us enough oil for 16 months at U.S. consumption rates.
>
>
> What will give us energy independence is energy that needs no fuel
> ever. No fuel ever to mine, prospect for, refine, transport, store,
> burn, clean up the pollution from, or fight wars over.
> The hidden costs of oil and gas and coal are in the hundreds of billions
> every year.
> They cost plenty over and above the energy prices you pay. Solar
> and wind will be as cheap before long, even without considering those
> hidden costs of fossil fuels. At which point they will actually be
> far cheaper in the big picture.
>
> Shotei
> I believe you are wrong. Obama will make energy a priority because
> it will solve 4 issues at once, economy, energy, environment, and
> national security.
> No more wars over oil.
> Are you talking about the war that Bush and co planned before 911?
> The war that they lied about to fool us into supporting. The one
> where they cherry picked intelligence that supported their agenda?
> The war that has nearly bankrupted our country? The one where we
> invaded a sovereign country that hadn't attacked us? The one where
> we invaded the one and only Muslim country that didn't have Al Queda
> operating?
> Oh, that war.
>
> This won't be like the Bush administration that did everything in
> it's power to block environmental progress. We won't have science
> being censored and hushed up to fit an agenda. We won't have an administratioin
> that works hand in hand with big oil to confuse the public debate
> about climate change and energy solutions.
> Read the books "The Heat is On"
> and "Censoring Science" What they did is criminal. The Bush administration
> even asked a conservative think tank to sue the administration, in
> order to prevent scientific facts from being brought up in a senate
> debate, so they would appear to not have a hand in this particular
> instance of censoring science. A memo was discovered later that proved
> this.]]>
Trading on FDA Decisions: BioDelivery Sciences Could Have a Big '09 http://seekingalpha.com/article/110869-trading-on-fda-decisions-biodelivery-sciences-could-have-a-big-09?source=feed#comment-331221 331221 I owned a few shares of a small pharma that was on the verge a new drug release. The shares sold for $4 and had jumped to almost $7 on the upcoming release. A like drug is made by the big 5 pharmas at a much higher cost to the customers. The morning of the release the FDA decided it needed more testing for "safety reasons". I think they realized the big companys would lose to much money if they let this drug be released. The share price is now at 0.50 all but driving the company into the ground.
The scarey part, the drugs you see on TV from the big 5 couldn't have anymore dangerous side effects if they where cut with rat poison.
How can the FDA refuse to release any drug when there are drugs out there that have FDA approval that have side effects up to and including DEATH.]]>
Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:57:22 -0500 I owned a few shares of a small pharma that was on the verge a new drug release. The shares sold for $4 and had jumped to almost $7 on the upcoming release. A like drug is made by the big 5 pharmas at a much higher cost to the customers. The morning of the release the FDA decided it needed more testing for "safety reasons". I think they realized the big companys would lose to much money if they let this drug be released. The share price is now at 0.50 all but driving the company into the ground.
The scarey part, the drugs you see on TV from the big 5 couldn't have anymore dangerous side effects if they where cut with rat poison.
How can the FDA refuse to release any drug when there are drugs out there that have FDA approval that have side effects up to and including DEATH.]]>
Three Things Obama Will Do to Advance Alternative Energy http://seekingalpha.com/article/110893-three-things-obama-will-do-to-advance-alternative-energy?source=feed#comment-331186 331186

On Dec 16 08:52 AM gebby wrote:

> governments get what they want. obama is not beholden to any one
> group. his is a grassroots effort. a decentralized support network.
> he will be able to build the energy infrastucture he has envisioned
> . count on it and invest accordingly.]]>
Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:32:05 -0500

On Dec 16 08:52 AM gebby wrote:

> governments get what they want. obama is not beholden to any one
> group. his is a grassroots effort. a decentralized support network.
> he will be able to build the energy infrastucture he has envisioned
> . count on it and invest accordingly.]]>
Three Things Obama Will Do to Advance Alternative Energy http://seekingalpha.com/article/110893-three-things-obama-will-do-to-advance-alternative-energy?source=feed#comment-331144 331144 Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:56:43 -0500 Blood from a Stone and Oil from Shale http://seekingalpha.com/article/107163-blood-from-a-stone-and-oil-from-shale?source=feed#comment-311875 311875 www.globalresourcecorp...
we have the means to be totally free from foriegn oil.
]]>
Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:53:23 -0500 www.globalresourcecorp...
we have the means to be totally free from foriegn oil.
]]>
Obama's Green Obsession: More Harm Than Good? http://seekingalpha.com/article/105385-obama-s-green-obsession-more-harm-than-good?source=feed#comment-305096 305096 Canada?????
Most US oil is imported from Canada.


On Nov 11 01:46 PM LeoTheDog wrote:

> Interesting thesis. I suppose you prefer the approach of George W.
> Bush, on whose watch the economy just thrived.
>
> Did you ever stop to think for a moment that one of the reasons that
> Obama has taken to this idea is that it addresses SEVERAL problems
> at the same time? Whether every dollar invested in green technologies
> is the most efficient use of that dollar in a purely economic sense
> is not the issue. America is dependent upon a very dirty, very expensive
> energy source that comes from nations that are largely hostile to
> our interests.
>
> Investing in green technologies WILL create jobs (economic benefit),
> while at the same time reducing our reliance on oil (environmental
> benefit) from hostile countries (national security benefit). A reliance
> on the free market with respect to America's energy needs, an approach
> you seem to want to continue, has disrupted our economy, polluted
> the planet (placing us in far greater risk over time than you seem
> to understand) and created incentives for the US to invade and occupy
> foreign countries at great human and financial cost.
>
> Could it possibly be that the incoming president sees the BIG PICTURE
> a little more clearly than you?]]>
Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:33:01 -0500 Canada?????
Most US oil is imported from Canada.


On Nov 11 01:46 PM LeoTheDog wrote:

> Interesting thesis. I suppose you prefer the approach of George W.
> Bush, on whose watch the economy just thrived.
>
> Did you ever stop to think for a moment that one of the reasons that
> Obama has taken to this idea is that it addresses SEVERAL problems
> at the same time? Whether every dollar invested in green technologies
> is the most efficient use of that dollar in a purely economic sense
> is not the issue. America is dependent upon a very dirty, very expensive
> energy source that comes from nations that are largely hostile to
> our interests.
>
> Investing in green technologies WILL create jobs (economic benefit),
> while at the same time reducing our reliance on oil (environmental
> benefit) from hostile countries (national security benefit). A reliance
> on the free market with respect to America's energy needs, an approach
> you seem to want to continue, has disrupted our economy, polluted
> the planet (placing us in far greater risk over time than you seem
> to understand) and created incentives for the US to invade and occupy
> foreign countries at great human and financial cost.
>
> Could it possibly be that the incoming president sees the BIG PICTURE
> a little more clearly than you?]]>
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