Shotei

Three Things Obama Will Do to Advance Alternative Energy

Dear frflyer,
Your first paragragh tells us all how stupid we are and then your rant begins, coal is killing 24000 americans a year more than homicides and AIDS combined. Since there are over 16000 homicides and over 15000 Aids related deaths per year that pretty much makes the rest of your speech, crap.

Three Things Obama Will Do to Advance Alternative Energy

and at a very reasonable price. thank you very much

Three Things Obama Will Do to Advance Alternative Energy

You left out the part about Bush flying the plane that brought down one of the towers.
I hope your right about Obama, I'm neither Dem. or Rep.
I go with the one with the most ideas I agree with. I'd love to have a windmill in my back yard and solar panels on the roof, but, for the cost of one windmill I could pay my gas bill for the next 65 years. I didn't make that number up. And, yes I know your talking about wind farms that supply whole cities. I live in Indiana, not enough wind or sun to supply electricty for this area meaning my energy would have to come from out west and travel 1000 miles. The cost to boost the power to get to areas like mine would make it impossible. Maybe after the ozone is burnt off, solar power will be cost efficent.
If Obama does half of what he promised I'll jump on the band wagon with both feet. He would be the first president to accomplish it.

On Dec 16 01:52 PM frflyer wrote:

> Fred Banks
>
> Where do you get your pearls of wisdom? Wind power is cheap, quick
> to build and green. What's wrong with that.
>
> The dept of energy says we could have 20% wind power by 2030. <br/>Solar
> could be a bigger percentage by then.
>
> "I'd put my money on the sun &amp; solar energy. What a source of
> power! I hope we don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before
> we tackle that."
> Thomas Edison, 1931
> Now there's a wise man.
>
> genea
>
> The President can't dictate what companies benefit from an alternative
> energy revolution. What he can do is provide the right incentives
> so Americans can develop new companies and compete.
> Lack of govt support for alternative energy has put us in a catch
> up mode vis a vis the rest of the world. We had 50% of the wind power
> market until Republicans pulled the govt funding in the 80s. It's
> no accident that the largest PV makers are all overseas.
> What people don't understand is that it's the massive subsidies for
> oil, coal, gas and nuclear that make it so hard for alternatives
> to compete.
>
> thmime
> We can't drill our way to energy independence. Impossible! If we
> pumped every barrel of oil reserves off the California coast it would
> give us enough oil for 16 months at U.S. consumption rates.
>
>
> What will give us energy independence is energy that needs no fuel
> ever. No fuel ever to mine, prospect for, refine, transport, store,
> burn, clean up the pollution from, or fight wars over.
> The hidden costs of oil and gas and coal are in the hundreds of billions
> every year.
> They cost plenty over and above the energy prices you pay. Solar
> and wind will be as cheap before long, even without considering those
> hidden costs of fossil fuels. At which point they will actually be
> far cheaper in the big picture.
>
> Shotei
> I believe you are wrong. Obama will make energy a priority because
> it will solve 4 issues at once, economy, energy, environment, and
> national security.
> No more wars over oil.
> Are you talking about the war that Bush and co planned before 911?
> The war that they lied about to fool us into supporting. The one
> where they cherry picked intelligence that supported their agenda?
> The war that has nearly bankrupted our country? The one where we
> invaded a sovereign country that hadn't attacked us? The one where
> we invaded the one and only Muslim country that didn't have Al Queda
> operating?
> Oh, that war.
>
> This won't be like the Bush administration that did everything in
> it's power to block environmental progress. We won't have science
> being censored and hushed up to fit an agenda. We won't have an administratioin
> that works hand in hand with big oil to confuse the public debate
> about climate change and energy solutions.
> Read the books "The Heat is On"
> and "Censoring Science" What they did is criminal. The Bush administration
> even asked a conservative think tank to sue the administration, in
> order to prevent scientific facts from being brought up in a senate
> debate, so they would appear to not have a hand in this particular
> instance of censoring science. A memo was discovered later that proved
> this.

Three Things Obama Will Do to Advance Alternative Energy

except the unions


On Dec 16 08:52 AM gebby wrote:

> governments get what they want. obama is not beholden to any one
> group. his is a grassroots effort. a decentralized support network.
> he will be able to build the energy infrastucture he has envisioned
> . count on it and invest accordingly.

Three Things Obama Will Do to Advance Alternative Energy

It will take the first year for Obama to get his people in place and the second year talking about how he's going to win the war before pulling out and losing the war. The next two years will be spent campaining to get relected. Alternate energy is waaaaaay down the list.