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Motorola Unveils RAZR 2, Mobile Phone Collection for '07

Exactly. Where's their Nokia N95? They probably havne't even begun thinking about something like that yet.

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Talk about playing the same old tune. The Razr 2 looks exactly the same as the original. So are we expected to like it because it's "retro" now lol?

Although, the RIZR Z8 seems to be very interesting. I really like the new way of sliding it and if the demo simulated videos of what the screen is going to be like is anything like the real thing then this could be a winner. Although why provide that screen and then only a 2 mp camera? Some comments elsewhere on the net suggest that it doesn't feel well built though.

Motorola: Investors Want Cool New Handsets

That's always been Motorola's problem. Feature light and with rubbish software. They've negated that by having cool phones but unfortunately the competition has caught up with looks. In the mean time Motorola have done absolutely nothing about features and their software.

Motorola have got a long way to fall yet. Expect a big crash landing because another RAZR just won't be good enough now that we have Sony Ericssons W880i's and Nokia N95's to go along side Prada phones and a huge array of ultra mobiles from Samsung.

The only way is down!

Motorola: Heading From Bad to Worse

Maybe I was harsh Thomas. But you still didn't really explain anything. I wasn't doing a feature by feature comparison simply because the iPhone lacks so many features that I'm not actually able to.

As you say it's how well everything integrates. What I find amazing is that based solely on it's reputation for making good mp3 players you and the rest of the US seem to think that they're going to nail the iPhone first time.

Motorola has been making phones for years and it's interface is still rubbish. Microsoft can't do it on a phone either. So why will Apple?

With the iPod all they need to do is play music. The iPhone will have to make calls, connect to the net, take pictures, play music, organise your life and much much more. But I suppose the general assumption now a days is that Apple can do anything!

Their repuation is based on the iPod and the iPod alone. They aren't really that successful with their computer division and their media boxes haven't done much. Plus now Apple tv is getting criticised to. So I'm just not getting how people can get so exceited about a product that they have never built before and that people have never used.

I'm sure Nokia are shaking in their boots!

Motorola: Heading From Bad to Worse

Just to add something. That comment seems to be the American way. It looks good so buy it. That's the motto to Moto has been living with for years and now they're screwed. I worked for them on work experience while at Uni in their forecasting department. It was in 1999 to 2000 when they were forecasting ridiculous numbers. Even back then it was clear that all Motorola cared about was the looks of their phones.

To sell phones now a days you need style and substance. We'll see if the American manufacturers have what it takes.

Motorola: Heading From Bad to Worse

What do you mean Thomas. Give me examples? It's touch screen controls? LG already have one and the rest will be bringing out rivals by the end of the summer according to press releases.

So what else? The interface? Well that won't sell phones on it's own and we don't know if it's better than the rest yet anyway.

It's mp3 player? Well, mp3 players on phones is still in it's infancy and most people prefer a stand alone machine right now due to battery issues. But you can already put up to 2gb of flash in most phones and Sony is really doing well with it's Walkman branded phones. Basically by the time the iPhone comes out it won't have any advantage.

So what else? I'm struggling here. You two line statement was one of the best comments from someone who doesn't seem to have many facts ever!

It's looks? Well, I wouldn't pay $500 for looks alone. I'd rather save my money for a Hugo Boss suit and look cool that way and just get a Nokia or Sony Ericsson.

Size? It's bigger than the rest so no.

Weight? It's heavier than the rest so no

Camera? It's got a rubbish camera so no

3G capability? Not got any so no.

Ability to download tunes on the move? It can't so no.

Is there anything I've missed? Oh yes that's right. It's an Apple. Sod it, it's an Apple, let's all buy one.

Motorola: Heading From Bad to Worse

What motorola lacks and always has lacked is a easy to use interface. It's simply terrrible. It's like using my old ZX Spectrum computer in the 1980's. Compare that to the interfaces of the other big four (Nokia, Sony Ericsson, and Samsung) and you are talking about light-years.

But the real problem isn't really to do with the interface. It's to do with the gap between US and European/Japanese ideas of what a mobile phone should be about. US consumers love style over substance and don't mind if the camera isn't very good or it doesn't have certain features. Motorola obviously listen to their US consumers more than their European and Japanese consumers because we love the features! We want multiple megapixel cameras, mp3 players and 3G. Motorola have always lagged behind in the technology stakes and they are paying for it now that the RAZR is long gone.

To be honest if it wasn't for the RAZR (which was bought only based on looks) Motorola would have been goners a lnog time ago. There is no way they can catch Sony Ericsson and Nokia now. Samsung can try but they will fall behind this year as their portfolio of phones looks thin.

This is also a reason why the iPhone will probably struggle to sell outside of the US. It may look amazing and have a great interface (yet to be seen) but it lacks on features. Nokia (N95) and Sony Ericsson (W880i and W950i) are well ahead of them on features and miles ahead in release date. And what's more they will cost people nothing on a contract where as the iPhone will cost about £400 over here. It's a no brainer.

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$500 for an iPhone which "could" have a great interface and has 4gb memory but that's just about it?

Or $0 for the Nokia N95 which has 5mp camera, GPS mapping, up to 2GB of changeable memory, smaller and lighter than the iPhone, and 3G?

The iPhone may look better and will probably have a better interface. But if that's all I cared about then I'd be happy to put up with a worse interface considering everything else you get with the N95. And I'd spend the $500 I saved on a Hugo Boss suit or coat to make me look cool.

Money money money. That's what it's all about. The iPod is successful because not only is it the best but it's also damn good value for money. It's isn't infinitely more expensive than it's rivals where as the iPhone is.

Some people say a phone is just a phone. Well then save your $500 to!

The key feature on a phone now a days is the camera which is why the iPhone is poor. But the key features of the near term future are mp3 playback capability and internet access. The iPhone may be fine with one but it's not with the other. It can't access iTunes on the move? That is a big advantage to the competition because they have already set up agreements to provide music downloads on the move as part of the contract.