NotinMarket

Greenback's Slumped on the Canvas

Greenspan = no credibility; helped start this entire mess with his low then high interest rate. Do you think he has a solution using his fraudulent statistics ? Probably was friends with Madoff and AIG. Statistics are only useful if the data comes from reliable sources.

Weimar Republic = True; print money, trash the country you are in, move all assets to Swiss Banks. However, this scheme is now getting risky. Can't even trust your tribe anymore.

If Mary Schapiro's the Answer...

One more thing...
Why does Madoff have any assets AT ALL. Everything he owns was purchased by fraudulent activities. He still has his apt and houses ???
When the Mafia or drug dealers get busted they lose everything; confiscated on the spot.. RICO statutes.
The SEC and the attorney general are in on it.
One more thing: Only one charge against him. WTF is that ??
He should have over 200 charges against him. One for each charge.

Moreover he files false income tax statements, used the US mail to send out his statements, made false 1099-Div statements, Didn't pay income tax on his 50 billion dollar profit.. ( illegal money is still taxable ).

All he gets is just one charge against him and he gets to live in his home purchased by stolen money. By association his wife's property is also subject to confiscation.

Something stinks here..

Madoff: One Bad Apple Should Not Deter Investors

Yes, Cramer is riding a hungry tiger and is stuck in the saddle. Get off and become the next meal.
Stop cheer leading Cramer. You are consistently wrong about the big picture and only help people lose their last dollars.
"Mad Money" = "Madoff Money"

Madoff: One Bad Apple Should Not Deter Investors

Bernie Madoff is also a flight risk..at 10 Million bail. Poof he is gone. At any bail amount...Poof !
His biggest enemy is the Israeli Musad and the Mafia. But maybe he has the cash to satisfy them. Let me settle our accounts....
Don't think for a second that he hasn't hid money world wide for the last 20 years. Maybe a BILLION in CASH in spider holes and mattresses.
He is going to disappear just like Bin Laden. Add a mustache and a wig...

Madoff: One Bad Apple Should Not Deter Investors

From "Charlie Wilson's War" as said by the Seymour Hoffman CIA guy.."We'll see"

Madoff: One Bad Apple Should Not Deter Investors

Madoff wasn't the only criminal type scheming to steal money on Wall Street. All the failed investment banks and related industries also pulled a giant scam on the 'inwestors' here and world wide with the credit swap and mortgage backed securities. What's more, the US Govt. knew of this and let them. The reasons for doing so are intuitively obvious.
To me the entire 401k and IRA retirement system is flawed and created to perpetuate theft on a grand scale. Retirement funds are there to buy and force prices up.
The methods in place to value securities is also flawed and criminal in many ways. At 4:05pm THATS the the new price. Multiply it across the board. Throw out the fact that selling reduces the bid and ask.
Before the crash most stocks were sold at multiples that mathematically made it impossible to justify. When you buy a house isn't there a second party that says if the house is worth the price ? Nothing like this exists with any power to stop you from engaging in risky stock purchases.
DOW 5000 is much closer to the actual value of our heavily leveraged companies

Citigroup: The End Draws Near

I find this entire Wall Street pundit show the biggest laugh ever. All you hear all day long on CNBC are experts who existed long before the crisis, who never said a thing, and never saw any problems. How do they even have the nerve to give advice on investing.
The greatest joke was the congress giving the car companies a tongue lashing about excesses and accountability !! Reeeeeeeaaaalllllly.
These A-hole spend more than they make...how big is the deficit ??
500 trillion zillion ?
Those execs should have told Frank : 'Nice job there with Fannie and Acorn'.

Citigroup: The End Draws Near

All the analytical talk will not answer the question of how such a 'fundamentally sound' company with industry geniuses could have ran this company into the ground. 300 billion in bad assets. I would not rescue this pile of BS for any reason.

If we don't put consequences on buying stock we will never recover. Negative reinforcement is the best method of regulating companies and holding CEOs responsible. The people buying into the market must have confidence in what they purchase. How will this assurance ever be possible ? These people who lie and ruin American business have to be discredited and punished. Bernake, Paulson, Greenspan, Volker, Giethner, Frank, Pelosi are not experts and should be dismissed. Why are we letting these people fix Wall Street ? These people have proven their incompetence yet we let them continue running things. Why ?

Citigroup: 4 Bailout Questions

NEW STOCK MARKET TERMS

CEO --Chief Embezzlement Officer.

CFO-- Corporate Fraud Officer.

BULL MARKET -- A random market movement causing an investor to
mistake himself for a financial genius.

BEAR MARKET -- A 6 to 18 month period when the kids get no
allowance, the wife gets no jewelry, and the husband gets no sex.

VALUE INVESTING -- The art of buying low and selling lower.

P/E RATIO -- The percentage of investors wetting their pants
as the market keeps crashing.

BROKER -- What my broker has made me.

STANDARD & POOR -- Your life in a nutshell.

STOCK ANALYST -- Idiot who just downgraded your stock.

STOCK SPLIT -- When your ex-wife and her lawyer split your
assets equally between themselves.

FINANCIAL PLANNER -- A guy whose phone has been disconnected.

MARKET CORRECTION -- The day after you buy stocks.

CASH FLOW-- The movement your money makes as it disappears
down the toilet.

YAHOO -- What you yell after selling it to some poor sucker
for $240 per share.

WINDOWS -- What you jump out of when you're the sucker who
bought Yahoo @ $240 per share.

INSTITUTIONAL INVESTOR -- Past year investor who's now locked
up in a nuthouse.

PROFIT -- An archaic word no longer in use.

Wall Street Breakfast: Must-Know News

I agree with this brilliant man !



On Nov 12 11:19 AM NotinMarket wrote:

> Businesses in the US have a fundamental problem; they are burdened
> with social issues and therefore can not compete with international
> competitors.
> As said on CNBC..."GM is a heath plan masquerading as a car company".
>
>
> US companies have so many social agendas (health care, pensions,
> childcare, racial quotas, Unions , property taxes ) how is there
> enough time in the day to actually get your business in done and
> make a profit.
>
> Rid business of these liberal social issues and let them concentrate
> on winning. Let the US govt. take care of these other lofty ideals.
> Tax the companies just a bit more and let the govt. EARN it keep
> by taking these concerns under its own wing.
>
> Leave business alone with regards to cradle to grave responsibilities
> and corporate profits will take care of the rest.
>
> Just don't trust Wall Street and the Banking industries to do the
> right thing. These dogs bite.
>
>

Wall Street Breakfast: Must-Know News

Businesses in the US have a fundamental problem; they are burdened with social issues and therefore can not compete with international competitors.
As said on CNBC..."GM is a heath plan masquerading as a car company".

US companies have so many social agendas (health care, pensions, childcare, racial quotas, Unions , property taxes ) how is there enough time in the day to actually get your business in done and make a profit.

Rid business of these liberal social issues and let them concentrate on winning. Let the US govt. take care of these other lofty ideals. Tax the companies just a bit more and let the govt. EARN it keep by taking these concerns under its own wing.

Leave business alone with regards to cradle to grave responsibilities and corporate profits will take care of the rest.

Just don't trust Wall Street and the Banking industries to do the right thing. These dogs bite.

Wall Street Breakfast: Must-Know News

My approach to settling the world financial crisis is to let it all fall down.

There is no direct rational relationship between stock price and company health. It is all about leveraging BS and hedging. Do not invest in companies that use stock values to exist. A very bad business model and fake. It is not based on the company's charter !

Let's reprice the world using real values. It is so much easier. Make investing something that anyone can understand. Having complicated derivatives is there to deceive and take money away from stupid investors and old people.

I'll buy back into stock investing when the DOW stays at 7000 for more than a week. The true bottom, ( still a bit over priced but WTF )

Wall Street Breakfast: Must-Know News

Hi M. J.

The people were outraged by the pundits only to give money back to the criminals in order to rescue their personal gambling debt. It was not an honest anger. If you put money on a stock to make big profits its your problem.

Punishing the investment bankers for what they did is another topic.

Everyone must suffer if you want real change. NO HEDGING YOUR BETS.

Not on my dime anyways.

Wall Street Breakfast: Must-Know News

I agree.
And...Stop using "Experts" from Harvard and Yale.
If one of the critters enters the room; leave immediately.

The rotten companies must fall. We need something new.
Most importantly is not to let Wall Street take them public. Kiss of Death.
Suddenly stock profit at all costs is the motto and people and product are worthless.

Image, Image, Fancy talk, CNBC pundits, Hollywood, bright colors, poofed up fundamentals, EPS.. Total Horse Crap.

Remember that once something goes public: it's all about stock price.
and let the BS begin.

Wall Street Breakfast: Must-Know News

Paulson, Greenspan, Buffet, Goldman Sachs, Bernacke, SEC Chairman, FDIC, Bush, Frank, Pelosi, Wamu, Wachovia, Lehman, AIG, Fannie, Freddie, ACORN, Morgan Stanley ...

Why would anyone put money back into the hands of the people who destroyed your life ? Stole your future.

Their response.."We're sorry, Really we are ". "Now give us more money
to play with". "Gas is way to cheap !"

There is a no confidence vote from all the individual investors. "WE do not buy into your fundamentals analysis anymore". Just tell me WHEN the Street ever told the truth.

IRA's & 401k's made it sooo easy for these thieves to take money right out of your paycheck into credit swaps and mortgage backed securities.

No one said a thing. Greeny, Bernie, Lehman...except this : "INVEST IN YOUR FUTURE" , "Buy this stuff", "Be an American", "we'll take care of everything"

Greenspan was the start of all our problems. First he made interest rates at 3.75 %, had millions of losers buy homes, sold the MB securities on Wall Street, then...he raised the mortgages to 7-8 %.

I still can't understand how this guy got his degree.. Is he in on it some how, ( like Goldman-Paulson ).

We don't need more rules, just make the penalties for screwing up banks and securities a death sentence. Then only honest people will ask to be the CEO's. Greenspan should hand over all his money and make him work in Walmart.

The 700 Billion dollar infusion only made interest rates go up. What is with this ?

Oil went from 147 to 62 as soon as the money ran out. It did not go down because of demand issues. No WAY. a 10% correction would have been the most.

Doing market analysis is the greatest waste of time you can possibly if you want to make money. The data is worthless and mostly lies.

I stopped doing that after the dot coms, Enron, and MCI died. People buy and sell stocks strictly based on hysteria and fear. That is all you need to know.

-Math Analyst, real degree from real university
Cramer, The Street, CNBC, when did they ever call it right. Statistically speaking, every choice you make has a 50-50 chance of winning anyways. Why both bringing in "phony fundamentals" . Just do the opposite of whatever the brokers and banks say. They haven't been right yet. They are broke and getting loans from you. Why would you listen to losers. Right ?