Do you want to loose more from "theoritical test" results associated remors /Analysis? I don't
On May 03 05:20 PM Alan Young wrote:
> "if equity investors lose 50% of their value...." > Huh? First of all, equity investors have ALREADY lost 50% of their > value--in some cases, 100%--last year, as the follies of bank managers > came home to roost. Secondly, if the information revealed by the > stress test is not useful to the market, it won't have a long-range > effect on the valuation. > > "..., I smell lawsuit." > You seem to have your ambulance-chasing hat on backwards. It's FAILURE > to reveal significant adverse information that's actionable; revealing > it against the wishes of management is, I hope, still legal.
> All this hoopla in the media about the stress test is just a smoke > screen or some so-called pundits trying to make their living. Both > Geitner and Bernenke (and include Paul Walker) have been telling > everybody that the idea of the stress testing is just to make sure > that the banks will be O.K. if the economy stays weaker for an extended > period of time. If certain banks can't lend because their capital > reserves are likley to be strained beyond required level, if the > poor economy persists, the Fed needs to know how much help to be > provided, if necessary. In any case, the government nether wants > to take over the bank nor wants to the bank to go under but remain > functional. In other words, the test is just a method agreed by both > sides to assess the potential capital need, precisely to keep the > institutions afloat, not to let those go under!! It's like a physician > diognosing a patient's disease for determination of the medicine > dosage he needs to recover his health and not to kill him!! I fail > to see why so much noise and anxiety instead of faith and hope for > the better!!
Most of 19 Banks Passed the Stress Test [View article]
will be "brutal" for Short covers", and good for the country.
On Apr 28 10:35 AM jeandit75 wrote:
> home prices keep on declining and they are tied to the banks bad > loans. The market does not seem to care. Pigs can fly too apparently. > What a crazy market! The drop will be brutal.
Warren's (Ridiculous) Prescription for Banks: Wipe Out Shareholders, Fire CEOs [View article]
Stock folder wiped out (almost- lately gained again) because of Short sellers. Take care analyst driven short sellers first. Like me, many others do not like their 401k to be wiped out.
On Apr 07 09:09 AM epeon wrote:
> There are elements of truth to what she says. For example, have not > the stockholders of Citigroup and BAC been already wiped out? It > wasn't long ago that Citigroup was 50, for example. And, much of > the management should be replaced. Maybe not all, but certainly some > of it. And, why are the boards not held responsible?
> ...first, it no longer matters whose fault it was -- we're in the > proverbial "s__t" and need to focus on getting out of it...second, > calling the current plan a "waste of time" is ludicrous unless the > author has an extraordinarily clear crystal ball -- something I seriously > doubt a "freelance writer living in Texas" would have...consequently, > the real waste of time was reading this article.
Public/Private Taxpayer Pilfer Program: Social Implications of Geithner's Plan [View article]
Why would you think author that you are more credible than OBAMA with some credible advisors? History? We do not see better historical results of past 8 yrs?
On Mar 26 10:28 AM socrateazz wrote:
> Why would you think any folk that have never produced anything or > created anything understand that what they have comes from that production? > They honestly believe wealth is formed from getting it from somebody > else! Would you expect anything else from Obama? Look at what he > has done in his life! Has any of it had to do with creating and selling > actual production? Why do you think communism always fails? The leadership > always thinks things operate the way they do because others are greedy. > They do not realize they gained power because of like thinkers greed. > I would not be surprised if the government has been profiting by > buying and selling some assets and then making statements which cause > prices to move to their favor. I think this asset plan is another > opportunity to help their faithful. The joy of Obamanomics is overwheming.
Extended Convalescence for Ailing Assets [View article]
Laments of Shorties!!
On Mar 24 10:25 AM User 242476 wrote:
> The Geithner plan is a dart game! The toxic mortgages and loans can't > be defined ( yield/quantity/non-per... but the treasury will guarantee > low interest loans for 'investors' to bid on them? Madness!! That > is like playing darts blind folded. What is really happening is the > Treasury is sucking up this worthless waste with more taxpayer debt > (claiming the issue is solved) and hoping it will evaporate in the > future.The national debt is snowballing and growing greater every > second: it is a thousand year mortgage!
Banks Object to Stress Test Delay [View article]
On May 03 05:20 PM Alan Young wrote:
> "if equity investors lose 50% of their value...."
> Huh? First of all, equity investors have ALREADY lost 50% of their
> value--in some cases, 100%--last year, as the follies of bank managers
> came home to roost. Secondly, if the information revealed by the
> stress test is not useful to the market, it won't have a long-range
> effect on the valuation.
>
> "..., I smell lawsuit."
> You seem to have your ambulance-chasing hat on backwards. It's FAILURE
> to reveal significant adverse information that's actionable; revealing
> it against the wishes of management is, I hope, still legal.
Banks Object to Stress Test Delay [View article]
On May 03 03:33 PM mruyog wrote:
> All this hoopla in the media about the stress test is just a smoke
> screen or some so-called pundits trying to make their living. Both
> Geitner and Bernenke (and include Paul Walker) have been telling
> everybody that the idea of the stress testing is just to make sure
> that the banks will be O.K. if the economy stays weaker for an extended
> period of time. If certain banks can't lend because their capital
> reserves are likley to be strained beyond required level, if the
> poor economy persists, the Fed needs to know how much help to be
> provided, if necessary. In any case, the government nether wants
> to take over the bank nor wants to the bank to go under but remain
> functional. In other words, the test is just a method agreed by both
> sides to assess the potential capital need, precisely to keep the
> institutions afloat, not to let those go under!! It's like a physician
> diognosing a patient's disease for determination of the medicine
> dosage he needs to recover his health and not to kill him!! I fail
> to see why so much noise and anxiety instead of faith and hope for
> the better!!
Most of 19 Banks Passed the Stress Test [View article]
On Apr 28 09:18 AM jeandit75 wrote:
> dreamon The Good News Economist!
Most of 19 Banks Passed the Stress Test [View article]
On Apr 28 09:12 AM Ishortyou wrote:
> well like it says its all speculation....no methodology on it.
Most of 19 Banks Passed the Stress Test [View article]
On Apr 28 10:35 AM jeandit75 wrote:
> home prices keep on declining and they are tied to the banks bad
> loans. The market does not seem to care. Pigs can fly too apparently.
> What a crazy market! The drop will be brutal.
Most of 19 Banks Passed the Stress Test [View article]
On Apr 28 09:00 AM User 196900 wrote:
> So today's news on Citi and BAC means nothing, right ????
Banking Industry Watch: Quick Move from Bust to Boom [View article]
On Apr 19 01:04 AM schlumpf wrote:
> Good article. But the market see it different, in the moment.
Warren's (Ridiculous) Prescription for Banks: Wipe Out Shareholders, Fire CEOs [View article]
many others do not like their 401k to be wiped out.
On Apr 07 09:09 AM epeon wrote:
> There are elements of truth to what she says. For example, have not
> the stockholders of Citigroup and BAC been already wiped out? It
> wasn't long ago that Citigroup was 50, for example. And, much of
> the management should be replaced. Maybe not all, but certainly some
> of it. And, why are the boards not held responsible?
Geithner's Plan Is a Waste of Time [View article]
On Mar 31 08:54 AM Vuke wrote:
> There is nothing quite so fearful as a government inspired plan designed
> to solve a government caused problem.
Geithner's Plan Is a Waste of Time [View article]
time reading long rubish commentary!!
On Mar 31 10:31 AM raytayzmd wrote:
> ...first, it no longer matters whose fault it was -- we're in the
> proverbial "s__t" and need to focus on getting out of it...second,
> calling the current plan a "waste of time" is ludicrous unless the
> author has an extraordinarily clear crystal ball -- something I seriously
> doubt a "freelance writer living in Texas" would have...consequently,
> the real waste of time was reading this article.
Geithner's Plan Is a Waste of Time [View article]
On Mar 31 07:57 AM Brooks wrote:
> Why wasn't Doug Johnson nominated to run Treasury? He seems to know
> it all, doesn't he?
Public/Private Taxpayer Pilfer Program: Social Implications of Geithner's Plan [View article]
On Mar 26 10:28 AM socrateazz wrote:
> Why would you think any folk that have never produced anything or
> created anything understand that what they have comes from that production?
> They honestly believe wealth is formed from getting it from somebody
> else! Would you expect anything else from Obama? Look at what he
> has done in his life! Has any of it had to do with creating and selling
> actual production? Why do you think communism always fails? The leadership
> always thinks things operate the way they do because others are greedy.
> They do not realize they gained power because of like thinkers greed.
> I would not be surprised if the government has been profiting by
> buying and selling some assets and then making statements which cause
> prices to move to their favor. I think this asset plan is another
> opportunity to help their faithful. The joy of Obamanomics is overwheming.
Extended Convalescence for Ailing Assets [View article]
On Mar 24 10:25 AM User 242476 wrote:
> The Geithner plan is a dart game! The toxic mortgages and loans can't
> be defined ( yield/quantity/non-per... but the treasury will guarantee
> low interest loans for 'investors' to bid on them? Madness!! That
> is like playing darts blind folded. What is really happening is the
> Treasury is sucking up this worthless waste with more taxpayer debt
> (claiming the issue is solved) and hoping it will evaporate in the
> future.The national debt is snowballing and growing greater every
> second: it is a thousand year mortgage!
Geithner's Master Stroke: The Official End of the Credit Crunch [View article]
Added Debt Won't Rescue the Great American Ponzi Scheme [View article]