dfx's Comments RSS Syndication from SeekingAlpha.com http://seekingalpha.comuser/287055/comments http://seekingalpha.com/article/110949-leveraged-etfs-might-be-the-cause-of-late-day-trading-moves?source=feed#comment-331464 331464 AKAIK) warrants and then ... some other firms have to go and execute the actual trades. I don't understand when or if stocks get transferred to ownership by the ETF. so its like a time-blur effect : we can say that the ETFs don't buy/sell the market, but they do so indirectly. heavy buying forces heavy buying thru the executing parties.

and that is part of the confusion of modern day casinos ... erm...sorry...finance.

I'm trying to figure out in greater depth how these ETFs actually execute and nobody ever answers me. because they don't know.

this is really important and we need to get to the bottom of it.





On Dec 16 02:29 PM Hodarius wrote:

> Leveraged ETFs don't buy or sell any actual stocks, and therefore
> don't affect stock prices. Leveraged ETFs buy and sell derivatives
> (options, swaps) that are *tied* to stock prices, and therefore will
> affect prices of options - but not the stocks that the options are
> tied to.]]> Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:12:34 -0500 AKAIK) warrants and then ... some other firms have to go and execute the actual trades. I don't understand when or if stocks get transferred to ownership by the ETF. so its like a time-blur effect : we can say that the ETFs don't buy/sell the market, but they do so indirectly. heavy buying forces heavy buying thru the executing parties.

and that is part of the confusion of modern day casinos ... erm...sorry...finance.

I'm trying to figure out in greater depth how these ETFs actually execute and nobody ever answers me. because they don't know.

this is really important and we need to get to the bottom of it.





On Dec 16 02:29 PM Hodarius wrote:

> Leveraged ETFs don't buy or sell any actual stocks, and therefore
> don't affect stock prices. Leveraged ETFs buy and sell derivatives
> (options, swaps) that are *tied* to stock prices, and therefore will
> affect prices of options - but not the stocks that the options are
> tied to.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/109409-chinese-stock-market-bottoms-what-should-u-s-investors-do?source=feed#comment-322477 322477
disclosure : position in WTF

let's all remember that last year china had many stock market shocks simply when the government said things like "stock market too over heated, we need to bring it down to earth a bit" and by curbing the mainland middle classes ability to gamble with their savings in the hong kong market.

yes, 10% is too hot and its not a bad thing to have corrected. a bit more than they wished I'm sure.
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disclosure : position in WTF

let's all remember that last year china had many stock market shocks simply when the government said things like "stock market too over heated, we need to bring it down to earth a bit" and by curbing the mainland middle classes ability to gamble with their savings in the hong kong market.

yes, 10% is too hot and its not a bad thing to have corrected. a bit more than they wished I'm sure.
]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/109109-tracking-trouble-for-the-triple-levered-etfs?source=feed#comment-320538 320538 I'm more concerned with the spastic bid/ask jumping beans.]]> Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:46:01 -0500 I'm more concerned with the spastic bid/ask jumping beans.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/108903-bond-bubble-coming-to-an-end-prepare-for-the-bust?source=feed#comment-319625 319625 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:16:36 -0500 http://seekingalpha.com/article/102077-what-the-tick-is-telling-us-today?source=feed#comment-292009 292009
but in practice it really changed my trading (hat tip to dr. brett !). it captures how impatient traders are to get in or get out. combined with the VIX of VXN, I get a fairly good reading to interpret short term price moves.

re: the time zones / futures. its as though the US markets always have to put some spin on what has played out overseas. by the time it hits the US markets its old news ("we're all going to die") and everybody shifts to the next chapter ("how much are corpses going for ? is graveyard real estate hot or not or is it trashed like the rest of housing and commercial RE ?")
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but in practice it really changed my trading (hat tip to dr. brett !). it captures how impatient traders are to get in or get out. combined with the VIX of VXN, I get a fairly good reading to interpret short term price moves.

re: the time zones / futures. its as though the US markets always have to put some spin on what has played out overseas. by the time it hits the US markets its old news ("we're all going to die") and everybody shifts to the next chapter ("how much are corpses going for ? is graveyard real estate hot or not or is it trashed like the rest of housing and commercial RE ?")
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