My biggest concern with your very well-reasoned piece is that the government has yet to show us that they can run anything efficiently. "I'm from the government and I'll here to help"....words we should all shutter at hearing
On Nov 14 12:53 AM You're Kidding wrote:
> You make it sound like nationalizing the banking system would be > a bad idea. Here's my take: > > Its time to nationalize the banking system! > > It should not be in private hands. If it stays this way, we'll repeat > this meltdown over and over again, every so often, forever. > > (Watch "Money as Debt" on YouTube. This is an amazing animation, > beautifully done, that shows how banking got started and why being > in private hands will eventually completely ruin the world's economy, > as we are saddled with an unending avalanche of debt.) > > The world's banking system is the epitome of human greed, institutionalized. > It will never serve our interests. Those of you who are afraid of > this idea and call it "socialism," should ask yourselves if you think > that the fire departments, the police departments, and the military > structure in this country should be privatized. Think about it. These > are socialized institutions, and nobody in their right mind wants > to change this because anyone's home can be broken into, or catch > on fire, or be threatened by outside force. Or shall we turn over > the Environmental Protection Agency to private hands? How about the > world's management of rain forests? Would that be a good idea? Do > you think Blackwater should run the military? When everyone is in > the same boat, you need a nationalized solution that puts everyone > on an equal footing. > > The problem with our "government" is it is controlled by PRIVATE > interests, far more than PUBLIC interests. Our government has been > taken over by the private sector, and what good has this brought > us? Enjoying the meltdown? > > There is nothing wrong with "socialism" per se. The only reason most > people think there is, is because when we were kids, we were brainwashed > into thinking it was "bad" by our school system. And socialism IS > bad when it is forced upon people. But most everything is bad when > it is forced upon people. Even "unregulated capitalism" is. How about > that... > > Here's the kicker, though: > > What is the most fundamental unit of human endeavor on this planet? > > > I'll give you a hint. Its a communistic institution.....Give up? > Well, here it is...: > > The Family Unit: parents and kids. > > That's right: "From each according to their ability, to each according > to their need." The family unit is pure Marxism! (Uh oh, should we > privatize it?!) > > Of course, we really don't mind this because, whether you call it > marxism, communism, socialism, or whatever, the family unit is based > on LOVE, and that trumps everything else. Now imagine for a moment > that human beings actually cared for other human beings that they > didn't know. Imagine if we as Americans, couldn't stand it when we > heard that people were starving or being murdered by genocide, and > cared enough to actually help out and solve the problem. Imagine > that. Not like today, when no one gives a damn. > > But if we were like that, our institutions would be different wouldn't > they? They wouldn't be set up to help just special interests, they > would help all who needed help, equally. We would all see ourselves > as one big family, based on love, and whether you knew someone or > not, it wouldn't matter. And all the starving people in the world > wouldn't end up starving because they would be part of the ONE Family > of human beings on this planet and they would get the food they need, > rather than us spending the money on other ridiculous, unnecessary > material things. Hasn't this been the message of all great religious/spiritual > leaders who have lived? > > The problem with our institutions is a reflection of the state of > spiritual consciousness we humans have attained. And right now that > level of consciousness is really, really low. Can you feel it?<br/> > > But all this CANNOT be forced on people, it must be "realized." And > that is the essence of what is going on with the current meltdown > today. We are all "waking up" to a slightly higher level of consciousness, > and realizing that unregulated capitalism, unregulated banking, and > self interested, short term greedy thinking, is all a very shortsighted > way of existing. There's a better way. And now that a lot of people > are in pain, watching one of their biggest "loves" (money) disappear > right in front of their eyes, they are opening up to a more logical > way of thinking: one that is more inclusive (socialistic) than individualistic. > We are realizing we are all in the same boat when it comes to our > economic institutions, and fair is fair. And its not fair for self > interested, ego-centric, skumbags to be running and scamming our > financial institutions which we are all affected by, because they > don't have an inclusive vision of human beings as a whole. > > We are witnessing the beginning of the end of unregulated capitalism. > The government is taking a "stake" in the banks, by necessity, because > they have proven they cannot run themselves in all of our best interests, > because they have only been interested in THEIR best interests. But > the banking system must be run in all of OUR best interests, or it > will eventually fail as we are seeing. The banks aren't loaning right > now because they are in private hands and concerned only with their > own interests, and not the "cash flow" of the banking system as a > whole. Can you imagine the military operating this way? There must > be a governing force overseeing it all and paying attention to it > all. This force, for better or worse, is called the "government,"... > and we should not be afraid of it, because it is us. WE the people > ARE the government. And we proved that when we won our independence > from England upon winning the revolutionary war, and we proved it > when we threw Marie Antoinette out during the French Revolution, > and we proved it when we knocked the wall down separating East and > West Berlin, and we proved it when we took to the streets in Russia > and the Eastern block fascist dictatorships in the early '90's, and > we will prove it again now, when we take our country back from the > slimy, shark-eyed ba$tards who have been stealing us blind throughout > our political and economic systems to this very day. > > Its time to turn things around and nationalize the banking system. > Its OUR political and economic system, not "theirs."
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My biggest concern with your very well-reasoned piece is that the government has yet to show us that they can run anything efficiently.
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"I'm from the government and I'll here to help"....words we should all shutter at hearing
On Nov 14 12:53 AM You're Kidding wrote:
> You make it sound like nationalizing the banking system would be
> a bad idea. Here's my take:
>
> Its time to nationalize the banking system!
>
> It should not be in private hands. If it stays this way, we'll repeat
> this meltdown over and over again, every so often, forever.
>
> (Watch "Money as Debt" on YouTube. This is an amazing animation,
> beautifully done, that shows how banking got started and why being
> in private hands will eventually completely ruin the world's economy,
> as we are saddled with an unending avalanche of debt.)
>
> The world's banking system is the epitome of human greed, institutionalized.
> It will never serve our interests. Those of you who are afraid of
> this idea and call it "socialism," should ask yourselves if you think
> that the fire departments, the police departments, and the military
> structure in this country should be privatized. Think about it. These
> are socialized institutions, and nobody in their right mind wants
> to change this because anyone's home can be broken into, or catch
> on fire, or be threatened by outside force. Or shall we turn over
> the Environmental Protection Agency to private hands? How about the
> world's management of rain forests? Would that be a good idea? Do
> you think Blackwater should run the military? When everyone is in
> the same boat, you need a nationalized solution that puts everyone
> on an equal footing.
>
> The problem with our "government" is it is controlled by PRIVATE
> interests, far more than PUBLIC interests. Our government has been
> taken over by the private sector, and what good has this brought
> us? Enjoying the meltdown?
>
> There is nothing wrong with "socialism" per se. The only reason most
> people think there is, is because when we were kids, we were brainwashed
> into thinking it was "bad" by our school system. And socialism IS
> bad when it is forced upon people. But most everything is bad when
> it is forced upon people. Even "unregulated capitalism" is. How about
> that...
>
> Here's the kicker, though:
>
> What is the most fundamental unit of human endeavor on this planet?
>
>
> I'll give you a hint. Its a communistic institution.....Give up?
> Well, here it is...:
>
> The Family Unit: parents and kids.
>
> That's right: "From each according to their ability, to each according
> to their need." The family unit is pure Marxism! (Uh oh, should we
> privatize it?!)
>
> Of course, we really don't mind this because, whether you call it
> marxism, communism, socialism, or whatever, the family unit is based
> on LOVE, and that trumps everything else. Now imagine for a moment
> that human beings actually cared for other human beings that they
> didn't know. Imagine if we as Americans, couldn't stand it when we
> heard that people were starving or being murdered by genocide, and
> cared enough to actually help out and solve the problem. Imagine
> that. Not like today, when no one gives a damn.
>
> But if we were like that, our institutions would be different wouldn't
> they? They wouldn't be set up to help just special interests, they
> would help all who needed help, equally. We would all see ourselves
> as one big family, based on love, and whether you knew someone or
> not, it wouldn't matter. And all the starving people in the world
> wouldn't end up starving because they would be part of the ONE Family
> of human beings on this planet and they would get the food they need,
> rather than us spending the money on other ridiculous, unnecessary
> material things. Hasn't this been the message of all great religious/spiritual
> leaders who have lived?
>
> The problem with our institutions is a reflection of the state of
> spiritual consciousness we humans have attained. And right now that
> level of consciousness is really, really low. Can you feel it?<br/>
>
> But all this CANNOT be forced on people, it must be "realized." And
> that is the essence of what is going on with the current meltdown
> today. We are all "waking up" to a slightly higher level of consciousness,
> and realizing that unregulated capitalism, unregulated banking, and
> self interested, short term greedy thinking, is all a very shortsighted
> way of existing. There's a better way. And now that a lot of people
> are in pain, watching one of their biggest "loves" (money) disappear
> right in front of their eyes, they are opening up to a more logical
> way of thinking: one that is more inclusive (socialistic) than individualistic.
> We are realizing we are all in the same boat when it comes to our
> economic institutions, and fair is fair. And its not fair for self
> interested, ego-centric, skumbags to be running and scamming our
> financial institutions which we are all affected by, because they
> don't have an inclusive vision of human beings as a whole.
>
> We are witnessing the beginning of the end of unregulated capitalism.
> The government is taking a "stake" in the banks, by necessity, because
> they have proven they cannot run themselves in all of our best interests,
> because they have only been interested in THEIR best interests. But
> the banking system must be run in all of OUR best interests, or it
> will eventually fail as we are seeing. The banks aren't loaning right
> now because they are in private hands and concerned only with their
> own interests, and not the "cash flow" of the banking system as a
> whole. Can you imagine the military operating this way? There must
> be a governing force overseeing it all and paying attention to it
> all. This force, for better or worse, is called the "government,"...
> and we should not be afraid of it, because it is us. WE the people
> ARE the government. And we proved that when we won our independence
> from England upon winning the revolutionary war, and we proved it
> when we threw Marie Antoinette out during the French Revolution,
> and we proved it when we knocked the wall down separating East and
> West Berlin, and we proved it when we took to the streets in Russia
> and the Eastern block fascist dictatorships in the early '90's, and
> we will prove it again now, when we take our country back from the
> slimy, shark-eyed ba$tards who have been stealing us blind throughout
> our political and economic systems to this very day.
>
> Its time to turn things around and nationalize the banking system.
> Its OUR political and economic system, not "theirs."