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California Bonds Downgraded Again

Your argument above using payroll taxes as a reason for welcoming illegal aliens is quite flawed. How does the payroll taxes help specifically CALIFORNIA taxpayers? Not at all. Its a national system. But we do pay for medicaid and we do pay to educate, and we do pay for law enforcement and incarceration. As for sales taxes paid? How much sales tax will low income earners who save and send money home pay anyway?
But lets get back to payroll taxes. Even if they use a bogus Social Security card, many are paid as 1099 contract workers. Couple of good reasons for that. First, business still gets the write off and no payroll tax for the business. Secondly, audits are rare among low income earners so why file? Yet still, some will have payroll taxes paid. But these are often low paying jobs where the payroll tax paid is hardly offsetting anything. While its true some will never collect, many more will, and being generally lower income earners they will likely receive back a higher percent of what they pay in than higher income earners. While Social Security taxes are still currently capped and adjusted with inflation each year, those that receive benefits often later pay taxes on a portion of that income when they exceed certain income levels currently about $50,000 for a joint filing. For medicare, there is no cap, though many wealthy will never use medicare at all.
What about Medicaid? Our medicaid system actually is quite a draw for pregnant Mexican girls. They know the rules. They won't be turned away, their baby will become an automatic citizen and they will receive legal resident alien status. It makes for a better start on life than what they had before, but the cost will and is borne specifically by the State.
I live in San Diego County and have witnessed and read much of the expense to the California taxpayer. Its so surprising how many are so ill-informed


On Feb 06 02:12 PM Matthew Rafat wrote:

> To "devassocx": I don't claim to know exactly how much undocumented
> workers cost or add to California's finances. I was just pointing
> out that a reasonable analysis of the net gain or loss of undocumented
> workers must include the children of these undocumented workers and
> their future contributions. For me, the turning point is the reality
> of the situation--it would be nearly impossible to collect all the
> undocumented workers and deport them to Canada, Mexico, etc. Once
> I realized this, I started to focus more on how to make the children
> of undocumented workers productive, taxpaying residents.

California Bonds Downgraded Again

I'm a resident of California and watch with mild amusement at the circus in Sacramento. I used to blame legislators for the seriously stupid and economically bankrupt methodology they use in managing this state. No longer. I've seen the light. Its all those brain dead voters who listen to the media for their truth. We need this fiasco. California voters need a swift kick in the head to wake from their stupor. We need a paradigm shift in ideology that won't occur without the kind of pain that leaves lasting images and periodic nightmares. The types of solutions that legislators opt for will chase business from the state in droves. The breaking point should occur before the 2010 elections.