"Left to its own, the economy would have spun into a deflationary depression (with untold misery for large sections of the population)::
This may happen ultimately anyway. Guess who is going to benefit then ???? GS et al.., instead of those who kept themselves clean, forsaw the disaster and should have had a once in lifetime benefit/ deserved windfall last year.
On Oct 04 04:55 PM bob adamson wrote:
> Mr. Schiff is wrong in his assessment of what could have been achieved > during the past year, about what has been achieved during that period > and what needs to be done over the next few years. The task for the > past year was to prevent an unprecedented world wide banking, financial > and general economic collapse and set the stage for remedial action > in further stages over the next years; not merely end a mild downturn > in an essentially healthy economy through some fiscal and monetary > tweaking or by letting market forces do the job unaided. Left to > its own, the economy would have spun into a deflationary depression > (with untold misery for large sections of the population) forestalling > any short to mid term productive options for either government or > private sector action. The task now is to stay the stimulus course > until the private sector is again able to carry its share of the > load. The longer term task is to prevent a false recovery that simply > returns the state of affairs to that which pertained in 2005 or thereabouts. > Rebuilding the public sector and industrial sectors of North America > and Western Europe and encouraging thrift and increased savings patterns > at these later stages will be important to the development of economic > soundness but only if we don’t jump the gun with this before the > recovery is truly underway.
> I too am not buying into to it long term...its strictly a day trade.....so > the Banks are AOK now..except Sheila Blair said some are not...BUT > of course she would not say which ones..so much for the new transparency...its > the bankers(seekingalpha.com/symbo...) making the American > public feel like all is good....so they can get onto baseball or > something while they fleece the rest of the TARP monies away....GS > will be a big buy of these so called "Bad Assets"..and yes the government > will cover 95% of them...so GS will squeeze out a 40% profit them > dump them back to the US to cover....and down we go again....but > hey its only Monday and only another trillion...probably 3 more by > Friday....
Citigroup's Decline - Not a Good Sign for the Market [View article]
I also wouldn't be surprised to see a major selloff, and soon. I find the drip-drip-drip of losses more painful than a wham-bam "trading-curbs-in effect" action that is certainly needed to give birth to the proverbial "new bull""
It has been a slow drip, no "curbs in" action. I expect this to happen very, very soon....
On Mar 01 09:15 AM JPDD wrote:
> <i>A fall below this level will likely trigger massive selling.</i> > > > As opposed to the moderate and measured selling that we've experienced > up to now. > > wtf? Down 50% and you think this is mild?
Should by all rights be a big down month, but you know, when things are too predictable the Bulls will be pumping.... Could lead to some serious whip-saw and a big 'rally ' at some point I am afraid...
> I've read some astonishing things on this site lately, but the idea > that a recession that started in December, 2007, is somehow "Obama's > fault" really takes the cake. In December, 2007, Obama was not only > not the president, and not only not the Democratic nominee, he was > in third place in the race for the Democratic nomination. So how > exactly is he responsible for the current recession? Statements like > this one do not exactly redound to the benefit of your credibility.
The Economic Recovery That Isn't [View article]
This may happen ultimately anyway. Guess who is going to benefit then ???? GS et al.., instead of those who kept themselves clean, forsaw the disaster and should have had a once in lifetime benefit/ deserved windfall last year.
On Oct 04 04:55 PM bob adamson wrote:
> Mr. Schiff is wrong in his assessment of what could have been achieved
> during the past year, about what has been achieved during that period
> and what needs to be done over the next few years. The task for the
> past year was to prevent an unprecedented world wide banking, financial
> and general economic collapse and set the stage for remedial action
> in further stages over the next years; not merely end a mild downturn
> in an essentially healthy economy through some fiscal and monetary
> tweaking or by letting market forces do the job unaided. Left to
> its own, the economy would have spun into a deflationary depression
> (with untold misery for large sections of the population) forestalling
> any short to mid term productive options for either government or
> private sector action. The task now is to stay the stimulus course
> until the private sector is again able to carry its share of the
> load. The longer term task is to prevent a false recovery that simply
> returns the state of affairs to that which pertained in 2005 or thereabouts.
> Rebuilding the public sector and industrial sectors of North America
> and Western Europe and encouraging thrift and increased savings patterns
> at these later stages will be important to the development of economic
> soundness but only if we don’t jump the gun with this before the
> recovery is truly underway.
I'm Skeptical About This Rally [View article]
On Mar 23 06:54 PM youngman442002 wrote:
> I too am not buying into to it long term...its strictly a day trade.....so
> the Banks are AOK now..except Sheila Blair said some are not...BUT
> of course she would not say which ones..so much for the new transparency...its
> the bankers(seekingalpha.com/symbo...) making the American
> public feel like all is good....so they can get onto baseball or
> something while they fleece the rest of the TARP monies away....GS
> will be a big buy of these so called "Bad Assets"..and yes the government
> will cover 95% of them...so GS will squeeze out a 40% profit them
> dump them back to the US to cover....and down we go again....but
> hey its only Monday and only another trillion...probably 3 more by
> Friday....
Citigroup's Decline - Not a Good Sign for the Market [View article]
Market Death Spiral Continues [View article]
On Mar 01 09:15 AM JPDD wrote:
> <i>A fall below this level will likely trigger massive selling.</i>
>
>
> As opposed to the moderate and measured selling that we've experienced
> up to now.
>
> wtf? Down 50% and you think this is mild?
Another Tough Month [View article]
On Feb 28 04:01 PM Lars39 wrote:
> Even Warren Buffett's BRK-A is down over 40% since last fall and
> about 10% down in Feb. Somehow, I thought Buffett would have done
> better.
Another Tough Month [View article]
Siegel vs. Standard & Poor's [View article]
'Bad Bank' Does Not Trump a 'Bad Market' [View article]
On Jan 28 06:19 PM ChkRazer wrote:
> so basically
> ... everything that ever happens is nothing by a bear market rally
Will 2009 Bring Ring Three of the Financial Circus? [View article]
Uncle Ben Signals the End Game [View article]
On Dec 01 08:14 PM Wes Van Winkle wrote:
> I've read some astonishing things on this site lately, but the idea
> that a recession that started in December, 2007, is somehow "Obama's
> fault" really takes the cake. In December, 2007, Obama was not only
> not the president, and not only not the Democratic nominee, he was
> in third place in the race for the Democratic nomination. So how
> exactly is he responsible for the current recession? Statements like
> this one do not exactly redound to the benefit of your credibility.