Scott F's Comments Scott F's Comments RSS Syndication from SeekingAlpha.com http://seekingalpha.comuser/306339/comments Real-Estate Veteran Sees a Rare Opportunity to Buy Quality REITs - Barron's http://seekingalpha.com/article/117817-real-estate-veteran-sees-a-rare-opportunity-to-buy-quality-reits-barron-s?source=feed#comment-372841 372841
AWP was issued less than two years ago at $20 and is now at $3, but they are still charging 1.5% management fee annually to sit on the 20% of original capital they haven't lost yet. In other words they burned through $40 million dollars of investors' money so they could lose $4B in the process. What a great deal. Even though they recently cut their dividend by 78%, some suckers are still going to get lured by their 12% fictitious return-of-capital-esqu... yield. These guys are fools, and so will you be if you buy them, thinking you're getting something at a discount.

IGR is slightly less horrible. It has the same rate of loss and nonsensical dividend but a less obnoxious excess management fee of 1.2%. It makes up for this with the riskiness of leverage.

If you are still compelled to buy any of this crap, maybe on a trading basis, perhaps Seligman LaSalle International Real Estate Fund (NYSE: SLS) is a better bet. More reasonable management fee, given its size and a better discount. At least in its case half of its dividend is actually real, and its smaller size might make it more versatile. Same lousy return record, though. The only other CEFs that look rational are the Asian ones, RAF and RAP. But those are run by RMR Advisors, Inc., as incompetent a bunch of jackanapes as I've ever come across.

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AWP was issued less than two years ago at $20 and is now at $3, but they are still charging 1.5% management fee annually to sit on the 20% of original capital they haven't lost yet. In other words they burned through $40 million dollars of investors' money so they could lose $4B in the process. What a great deal. Even though they recently cut their dividend by 78%, some suckers are still going to get lured by their 12% fictitious return-of-capital-esqu... yield. These guys are fools, and so will you be if you buy them, thinking you're getting something at a discount.

IGR is slightly less horrible. It has the same rate of loss and nonsensical dividend but a less obnoxious excess management fee of 1.2%. It makes up for this with the riskiness of leverage.

If you are still compelled to buy any of this crap, maybe on a trading basis, perhaps Seligman LaSalle International Real Estate Fund (NYSE: SLS) is a better bet. More reasonable management fee, given its size and a better discount. At least in its case half of its dividend is actually real, and its smaller size might make it more versatile. Same lousy return record, though. The only other CEFs that look rational are the Asian ones, RAF and RAP. But those are run by RMR Advisors, Inc., as incompetent a bunch of jackanapes as I've ever come across.

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