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On Nov 25 05:40 PM user396040 wrote:

> The Great Depression was caused by deflation, not inflation. When
> there is inflation, people buy things like crazy because the price
> is going to go up tomorrow. The economy tends to get overheated -
> there is a tendency for employment to be high because workers don't
> realize that wage increases are illusory and therefore the real hourly
> wage declines encourage employers to use more and more less expensive
> labor as they can raise prices faster than wages increase. I am not
> advocating inflation and I feel that today it is about as serious
> a problem as large scale horse manure pollution due the the abandonment
> of automobiles and the resumption of horse drawn carriage transportation.
> But, even if inflation does recur (which I think is very, very unlikely
> in the near term) it would not create a depression]]>
Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:01:59 -0500

On Nov 25 05:40 PM user396040 wrote:

> The Great Depression was caused by deflation, not inflation. When
> there is inflation, people buy things like crazy because the price
> is going to go up tomorrow. The economy tends to get overheated -
> there is a tendency for employment to be high because workers don't
> realize that wage increases are illusory and therefore the real hourly
> wage declines encourage employers to use more and more less expensive
> labor as they can raise prices faster than wages increase. I am not
> advocating inflation and I feel that today it is about as serious
> a problem as large scale horse manure pollution due the the abandonment
> of automobiles and the resumption of horse drawn carriage transportation.
> But, even if inflation does recur (which I think is very, very unlikely
> in the near term) it would not create a depression]]>
The Case for Depression, Part 4: Dollar Collapse http://seekingalpha.com/article/175264-the-case-for-depression-part-4-dollar-collapse?source=feed#comment-778033 778033

On Nov 25 10:42 AM Mr. Big wrote:

> Firstly, let's get one thing out of the way. Those unfunded liabilities
> are pretty much a write-off. $100 trillion dollars? Are you kidding
> me? Our government can barely afford the current $12 trillion debt
> load with the current workforce..... and over the next 30 to 40 years,
> our workforce will be dwindling.
>
> I don't think the general public appreciates, yet, the enormity of
> the situation. $100 trillion dollars is equivalent to over a quarter
> of a million dollars of debt for every man woman and child. For an
> average family of four, that is more than a million dollars of debt
> per household....present value!!! And for every year we run a deficit,
> we add an equal amount to the unfunded liabilities.
>
> Needless to say, a reduction in the standard and quality of living
> is an understatement. Bottom line is, our sick and elderly loved
> ones are going to die prematurely..... and that's simply unacceptable.
>
>
> The destruction in our standard of living will ultimately manifest
> itself in the form of significantly higher taxes and the addition
> of a multitude of user fees. At current debt levels (including the
> unfunded), you can consider this new reality to be permanent. This
> change will likely put the US at the top of the list of the highest
> taxed nations in the world. The sad part is, most of the current
> high-taxed nations have a decent health care system. We will be at
> the top of the list with a crippled health care system.
>
> Has anyone ever considered that there will be a mass exodus of our
> mosted talented and highly contributing pool of workers (and businesses)?
> This will be especially true if Obama continues to push his socialist
> agenda.
>
> I gotta say, Canada is starting to look mighty sweet right now...
> I don't care how bad their hockey teams are...]]>
Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:00:32 -0500

On Nov 25 10:42 AM Mr. Big wrote:

> Firstly, let's get one thing out of the way. Those unfunded liabilities
> are pretty much a write-off. $100 trillion dollars? Are you kidding
> me? Our government can barely afford the current $12 trillion debt
> load with the current workforce..... and over the next 30 to 40 years,
> our workforce will be dwindling.
>
> I don't think the general public appreciates, yet, the enormity of
> the situation. $100 trillion dollars is equivalent to over a quarter
> of a million dollars of debt for every man woman and child. For an
> average family of four, that is more than a million dollars of debt
> per household....present value!!! And for every year we run a deficit,
> we add an equal amount to the unfunded liabilities.
>
> Needless to say, a reduction in the standard and quality of living
> is an understatement. Bottom line is, our sick and elderly loved
> ones are going to die prematurely..... and that's simply unacceptable.
>
>
> The destruction in our standard of living will ultimately manifest
> itself in the form of significantly higher taxes and the addition
> of a multitude of user fees. At current debt levels (including the
> unfunded), you can consider this new reality to be permanent. This
> change will likely put the US at the top of the list of the highest
> taxed nations in the world. The sad part is, most of the current
> high-taxed nations have a decent health care system. We will be at
> the top of the list with a crippled health care system.
>
> Has anyone ever considered that there will be a mass exodus of our
> mosted talented and highly contributing pool of workers (and businesses)?
> This will be especially true if Obama continues to push his socialist
> agenda.
>
> I gotta say, Canada is starting to look mighty sweet right now...
> I don't care how bad their hockey teams are...]]>
Is the Gold ETF Rally Here to Stay? http://seekingalpha.com/article/175266-is-the-gold-etf-rally-here-to-stay?source=feed#comment-777969 777969

On Nov 25 12:10 PM User 248461 wrote:

> holds more bullion than any other country ? Do you have audited and
> assayed proof of this ? Sure its not just paper and tungsten ?]]>
Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:04:30 -0500

On Nov 25 12:10 PM User 248461 wrote:

> holds more bullion than any other country ? Do you have audited and
> assayed proof of this ? Sure its not just paper and tungsten ?]]>
Eliot Spitzer on How Geithner Was Fleeced by Wall Street http://seekingalpha.com/article/175111-eliot-spitzer-on-how-geithner-was-fleeced-by-wall-street?source=feed#comment-777963 777963

On Nov 25 06:34 PM Stan Sutfin wrote:

> Isn't it strainge that we never hear anything from Obama on this
> subject. Guess he isn't as smart as people thought he was. One thing
> is pretty certain--little Timmy will wind up getting a great job
> at GS. Wonder if he knows he is supposed to pay taxes on those bonuses.
> If he does know, wonder if he will pay the tax.]]>
Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:50:19 -0500

On Nov 25 06:34 PM Stan Sutfin wrote:

> Isn't it strainge that we never hear anything from Obama on this
> subject. Guess he isn't as smart as people thought he was. One thing
> is pretty certain--little Timmy will wind up getting a great job
> at GS. Wonder if he knows he is supposed to pay taxes on those bonuses.
> If he does know, wonder if he will pay the tax.]]>
High Gold Prices: It's the Oil, Stupid http://seekingalpha.com/article/175002-high-gold-prices-it-s-the-oil-stupid?source=feed#comment-776915 776915 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:09:50 -0500 Australia Looks Great for the Long Term http://seekingalpha.com/article/174874-australia-looks-great-for-the-long-term?source=feed#comment-775811 775811 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:15:11 -0500 Whatever Happened to Those Ethanol Companies? http://seekingalpha.com/article/174898-whatever-happened-to-those-ethanol-companies?source=feed#comment-775800 775800 Where do you think most electricity comes from? Burning things!!!!!!!


On Nov 24 12:14 PM zapman59 wrote:

> all the more reason to go electric. you don't need to burn something
> to make the wheels go round and round and fueling up at your home
> with an extendion cord is about as simple as it can get.]]>
Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:09:11 -0500 Where do you think most electricity comes from? Burning things!!!!!!!


On Nov 24 12:14 PM zapman59 wrote:

> all the more reason to go electric. you don't need to burn something
> to make the wheels go round and round and fueling up at your home
> with an extendion cord is about as simple as it can get.]]>
Why Silver’s Breakout Could Bring It Out of Gold’s Shadow http://seekingalpha.com/article/174726-why-silvers-breakout-could-bring-it-out-of-golds-shadow?source=feed#comment-774542 774542

On Nov 23 10:24 AM TTolstoy wrote:

> I keep hearing gold bugs saying that China is telling its citizens
> to buy gold and silver, but there is never any objective proof of
> this. No one has ever produced any hyperlink to any Chinese government
> publication, or newspaper article saying that. I do not believe,
> therefore, that they are telling their people to buy gold or silver.
> They may be buying these two metals, but it isn't because of anything
> the government told them. If there is some article or government
> publication that proves me wrong, I'd love the hyperlink. Even if
> it is written in Chinese, it is easily translated, using any number
> of computer based translation programs.]]>
Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:00:11 -0500

On Nov 23 10:24 AM TTolstoy wrote:

> I keep hearing gold bugs saying that China is telling its citizens
> to buy gold and silver, but there is never any objective proof of
> this. No one has ever produced any hyperlink to any Chinese government
> publication, or newspaper article saying that. I do not believe,
> therefore, that they are telling their people to buy gold or silver.
> They may be buying these two metals, but it isn't because of anything
> the government told them. If there is some article or government
> publication that proves me wrong, I'd love the hyperlink. Even if
> it is written in Chinese, it is easily translated, using any number
> of computer based translation programs.]]>
Why Silver’s Breakout Could Bring It Out of Gold’s Shadow http://seekingalpha.com/article/174726-why-silvers-breakout-could-bring-it-out-of-golds-shadow?source=feed#comment-774432 774432

On Nov 23 06:04 PM Monticello Sage wrote:

> I lived in South East Asia for almost a year last year, and, I saw
> a growing and educated middle class, who were entrepreneurial, street
> smart, and DISCIPLINED savers.
>
> I'm sailing back over there on my live-aboard sailboat, because the
> US is moving in the direction of federal bankruptcy, if it doesn't
> start becoming more fiscally responsible in the near future.
>
> Asians DO like to buy gold, and, silver, and, since the dollar will
> continue to weaken so long as our federal, state, and local governments
> borrow too much money during a war-weakened economy, I am moving
> back there to start a tourism business using my sail-boat and scuba
> gear.
>
> I plan to look at the momentum and volume data on gold-related investments,
> because I'm bullish on gold. I'm still wary of silver, since central
> banks don't buy it, but, I haven't ruled it out.
>
> Meanwhile, about 10% of my investment account is in Aussie dollars,
> because they are relatively safe way to ride the resource inflation
> bull.]]>
Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:40:12 -0500

On Nov 23 06:04 PM Monticello Sage wrote:

> I lived in South East Asia for almost a year last year, and, I saw
> a growing and educated middle class, who were entrepreneurial, street
> smart, and DISCIPLINED savers.
>
> I'm sailing back over there on my live-aboard sailboat, because the
> US is moving in the direction of federal bankruptcy, if it doesn't
> start becoming more fiscally responsible in the near future.
>
> Asians DO like to buy gold, and, silver, and, since the dollar will
> continue to weaken so long as our federal, state, and local governments
> borrow too much money during a war-weakened economy, I am moving
> back there to start a tourism business using my sail-boat and scuba
> gear.
>
> I plan to look at the momentum and volume data on gold-related investments,
> because I'm bullish on gold. I'm still wary of silver, since central
> banks don't buy it, but, I haven't ruled it out.
>
> Meanwhile, about 10% of my investment account is in Aussie dollars,
> because they are relatively safe way to ride the resource inflation
> bull.]]>
Why Silver’s Breakout Could Bring It Out of Gold’s Shadow http://seekingalpha.com/article/174726-why-silvers-breakout-could-bring-it-out-of-golds-shadow?source=feed#comment-774391 774391 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:36:35 -0500 Why a Market Crash Doesn’t Matter http://seekingalpha.com/article/174714-why-a-market-crash-doesnt-matter?source=feed#comment-773222 773222

On Nov 22 09:55 AM TradingHelpDesk wrote:

> "Investing giants like Warren Buffett and Peter Lynch are on record
> as ignorers of the general stock market. Instead, they are only interested
> in the specific companies they own."
>
> Well that's obvious. If you own large stakes in a couple of dozen
> companies then of course the company specific issues are dominant
> in your mind. But there are millions of US investors who - on the
> advice of their consultants - have exposure to the wider market,
> the S&P 500, or Russell Indices, so for you to dismiss their
> wider "stock market" worries as unfounded is a bit unsympathetic.
>
>
> Let's not forget the Dow 30 is lower now than it was 10 years ago.
> There's plenty to be legitimately worried about if you are exposed
> to equities I think.]]>
Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:48:35 -0500

On Nov 22 09:55 AM TradingHelpDesk wrote:

> "Investing giants like Warren Buffett and Peter Lynch are on record
> as ignorers of the general stock market. Instead, they are only interested
> in the specific companies they own."
>
> Well that's obvious. If you own large stakes in a couple of dozen
> companies then of course the company specific issues are dominant
> in your mind. But there are millions of US investors who - on the
> advice of their consultants - have exposure to the wider market,
> the S&P 500, or Russell Indices, so for you to dismiss their
> wider "stock market" worries as unfounded is a bit unsympathetic.
>
>
> Let's not forget the Dow 30 is lower now than it was 10 years ago.
> There's plenty to be legitimately worried about if you are exposed
> to equities I think.]]>
Brazil Increases Taxes to Bust Bovesta http://seekingalpha.com/article/174649-brazil-increases-taxes-to-bust-bovesta?source=feed#comment-772247 772247

On Nov 22 12:25 PM bztrdr wrote:

> If you like investing in Brasil for so many reasons then it would
> probably be wise to first start with getting the name of the country's
> stock exchange correct. The indice is the "Bovespa" not Bovesta.
> And in case you don't know, brasilians speak portuguese not spanish.
> Blows me away the number of professionals that blindly throw billions
> into this market following the herd but know almost nothing about
> it. A little DD on the name of the indice for starters would help.]]>
Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:09:03 -0500

On Nov 22 12:25 PM bztrdr wrote:

> If you like investing in Brasil for so many reasons then it would
> probably be wise to first start with getting the name of the country's
> stock exchange correct. The indice is the "Bovespa" not Bovesta.
> And in case you don't know, brasilians speak portuguese not spanish.
> Blows me away the number of professionals that blindly throw billions
> into this market following the herd but know almost nothing about
> it. A little DD on the name of the indice for starters would help.]]>
The Truth Behind China's Currency Peg http://seekingalpha.com/article/174657-the-truth-behind-china-s-currency-peg?source=feed#comment-772217 772217 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:59:17 -0500 Investments into Commodities Surpass 2006 Record http://seekingalpha.com/article/174635-investments-into-commodities-surpass-2006-record?source=feed#comment-772066 772066 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:32:15 -0500 Where the Wild Things Are (Portfolio Edition) http://seekingalpha.com/article/174633-where-the-wild-things-are-portfolio-edition?source=feed#comment-771994 771994 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:54:02 -0500 TheStreet.com's Accounting Mess: What Would Jim Cramer Have to Say? http://seekingalpha.com/article/174677-thestreet-com-s-accounting-mess-what-would-jim-cramer-have-to-say?source=feed#comment-771927 771927 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:29:13 -0500 TheStreet.com's Accounting Mess: What Would Jim Cramer Have to Say? http://seekingalpha.com/article/174677-thestreet-com-s-accounting-mess-what-would-jim-cramer-have-to-say?source=feed#comment-771923 771923 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:26:32 -0500 Global Markets in Review: Share Prices Too Far Ahead of Economic Reality http://seekingalpha.com/article/174683-global-markets-in-review-share-prices-too-far-ahead-of-economic-reality?source=feed#comment-771896 771896

On Nov 22 10:50 AM LKofEnglish wrote:

> Just came from Wyoming. Did a tour of the world's largest sulphate
> mine. Interesting stuff. Struck by how many "sugar factories" are
> being built in that state, too. Ethanol in Wyoming is $1.89. Cheap
> as Iowa. Barely grow a cob of corn in Wyoming, tho. Be interesting
> how many of you paper chasers can imagine how Wyoming produces so
> much sugar. Of course who cares about hard assets anymore, right?
> Let alone what Karl Marx called "the means of production." As Clemenceau
> of France said during World War II, "war is too important for the
> generals." It would appear in America today "the economy is too important
> for Wall Street bankers." Transports at a record high. I expect a
> tremendous uptick in inflation in the very near term--perhaps in
> the next few weeks. The trucking traffic in the American midwest
> right now is just amazing. Like watching salmon running upstream
> to their spawning grounds. Looks like that highway bill got passed
> just in time.]]>
Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:04:09 -0500

On Nov 22 10:50 AM LKofEnglish wrote:

> Just came from Wyoming. Did a tour of the world's largest sulphate
> mine. Interesting stuff. Struck by how many "sugar factories" are
> being built in that state, too. Ethanol in Wyoming is $1.89. Cheap
> as Iowa. Barely grow a cob of corn in Wyoming, tho. Be interesting
> how many of you paper chasers can imagine how Wyoming produces so
> much sugar. Of course who cares about hard assets anymore, right?
> Let alone what Karl Marx called "the means of production." As Clemenceau
> of France said during World War II, "war is too important for the
> generals." It would appear in America today "the economy is too important
> for Wall Street bankers." Transports at a record high. I expect a
> tremendous uptick in inflation in the very near term--perhaps in
> the next few weeks. The trucking traffic in the American midwest
> right now is just amazing. Like watching salmon running upstream
> to their spawning grounds. Looks like that highway bill got passed
> just in time.]]>
A Tale of Two Markets: Overvalued Stocks and the Declining Dollar http://seekingalpha.com/article/174598-a-tale-of-two-markets-overvalued-stocks-and-the-declining-dollar?source=feed#comment-771152 771152

On Nov 21 11:33 AM fwi wrote:

> The whole market schtick of gaming low estimates to pump stocks is
> so last year. I have always thought Wall Street was usually ahead
> of their game. I think this whole sick relationship with obama and
> DC has really taken their edge off, and that this time they will
> lose like last year, but without the taxpayer largesse. I firmly
> believe that the real leg down is coming. And it really will not
> be about anything but the exposure of the risks and leverage they
> have. True exposure last fall was avoided by the quick bailout. This
> will not happen the second time. And the catalyst to bring about
> this miracuous truth? THe world led by China and its would be friends
> will start dumping Treasuries. Not dollars, Treasuries.]]>
Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:08:29 -0500

On Nov 21 11:33 AM fwi wrote:

> The whole market schtick of gaming low estimates to pump stocks is
> so last year. I have always thought Wall Street was usually ahead
> of their game. I think this whole sick relationship with obama and
> DC has really taken their edge off, and that this time they will
> lose like last year, but without the taxpayer largesse. I firmly
> believe that the real leg down is coming. And it really will not
> be about anything but the exposure of the risks and leverage they
> have. True exposure last fall was avoided by the quick bailout. This
> will not happen the second time. And the catalyst to bring about
> this miracuous truth? THe world led by China and its would be friends
> will start dumping Treasuries. Not dollars, Treasuries.]]>
A Tale of Two Markets: Overvalued Stocks and the Declining Dollar http://seekingalpha.com/article/174598-a-tale-of-two-markets-overvalued-stocks-and-the-declining-dollar?source=feed#comment-771130 771130

On Nov 21 10:31 AM Old Trader wrote:

> bbro,
>
> The other evening, Bloomberg TV had an interesting factoid to mull
> over: 80% of companies reporting beat estimates, however, profits
> were DOWN 46%, YoY, which implies that analysts erred on the downside,
> when issuing their estimates, not that things are improving by any
> great measure.]]>
Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:04:01 -0500

On Nov 21 10:31 AM Old Trader wrote:

> bbro,
>
> The other evening, Bloomberg TV had an interesting factoid to mull
> over: 80% of companies reporting beat estimates, however, profits
> were DOWN 46%, YoY, which implies that analysts erred on the downside,
> when issuing their estimates, not that things are improving by any
> great measure.]]>
Vitamin Beats Statin: Is Merck's Zetia in Trouble? http://seekingalpha.com/article/174615-vitamin-beats-statin-is-merck-s-zetia-in-trouble?source=feed#comment-771115 771115 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:39:17 -0500 Investments that Could Hold Up to a Double Dip http://seekingalpha.com/article/174551-investments-that-could-hold-up-to-a-double-dip?source=feed#comment-770373 770373

On Nov 20 03:44 PM wozdan wrote:

> "Australia was the only developed country to avoid recession"
> - this sentence holds true only for the narrowest of definitnions
> of the term developed. The validity of your statement depends on
> what you mean by developed. Poland is a second developed country
> that had also positive growth during the 'crisis. If we use CIA's
> definition, then Poland would be a developed country as it is a member
> of the OECD. It's also a member of the EU, which makes the case a
> bit stronger. - this comment is not intended as criticism or anything
> of that sort, I thought it's just a good opportunity to underscore
> the not very well known fact (especially in the West) that there
> really is some country between Germany and Russia - with a pretty
> interesting history, too.]]>
Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:06:02 -0500

On Nov 20 03:44 PM wozdan wrote:

> "Australia was the only developed country to avoid recession"
> - this sentence holds true only for the narrowest of definitnions
> of the term developed. The validity of your statement depends on
> what you mean by developed. Poland is a second developed country
> that had also positive growth during the 'crisis. If we use CIA's
> definition, then Poland would be a developed country as it is a member
> of the OECD. It's also a member of the EU, which makes the case a
> bit stronger. - this comment is not intended as criticism or anything
> of that sort, I thought it's just a good opportunity to underscore
> the not very well known fact (especially in the West) that there
> really is some country between Germany and Russia - with a pretty
> interesting history, too.]]>
Is the Fed Blowing Bubbles? JPM on Asset Reflation Myths http://seekingalpha.com/article/174536-is-the-fed-blowing-bubbles-jpm-on-asset-reflation-myths?source=feed#comment-770347 770347 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:15:34 -0500 GE's Immelt Turns Dem http://seekingalpha.com/article/174305-ge-s-immelt-turns-dem?source=feed#comment-770046 770046 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:13:50 -0500 10 Reasons to Believe That We're in a Depression http://seekingalpha.com/article/174179-10-reasons-to-believe-that-we-re-in-a-depression?source=feed#comment-769995 769995

On Nov 20 07:55 PM Go Lakers wrote:

> Hooray, finally someone who speaks some sense. This line is absolute
> garbage:
>
> "Without America discovering the “next new thing” our previous standard
> of living will accelerate downward."
>
> America pretty much has a mortgage on this business, particularly
> in the tech space. I don't understand how because a large group of
> people wanted to buy homes and they were lent money they shouldn't
> have been that the American ability to innovate has somehow disappeared
> into this air.
>
> Can you please explain that to me Mr. Clark? Or anyone else?]]>
Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:03:07 -0500

On Nov 20 07:55 PM Go Lakers wrote:

> Hooray, finally someone who speaks some sense. This line is absolute
> garbage:
>
> "Without America discovering the “next new thing” our previous standard
> of living will accelerate downward."
>
> America pretty much has a mortgage on this business, particularly
> in the tech space. I don't understand how because a large group of
> people wanted to buy homes and they were lent money they shouldn't
> have been that the American ability to innovate has somehow disappeared
> into this air.
>
> Can you please explain that to me Mr. Clark? Or anyone else?]]>
10 Reasons to Believe That We're in a Depression http://seekingalpha.com/article/174179-10-reasons-to-believe-that-we-re-in-a-depression?source=feed#comment-769958 769958

On Nov 19 02:11 PM bobbybutte wrote:

> As a person who has become financially independent SOLELY through
> investing let me add a few things
>
> Ill give you 158 billion reasons why we will have no depression<br/>
>
> Mr warren Buffett the only person to ever earn over 150 billion for
> he and his investors allocating capital has told you it is not happening
>
>
> Want more proof. none of the big shorts like paulson Rogers Soros
> chanos kass are shorting financials here like they were
>
> Want more proof Chinese economy would fold if america's 12 trillion
> dollar econmy just died out or even went back drastically
>
> Fact is you can continue to get debt as long as someone is willing
> to back you
>
> China will back us but at what price?
>
> Forget all this depression crap.not happening
>
> what happened last year wa sa massive deleveraging]]>
Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:56:59 -0500

On Nov 19 02:11 PM bobbybutte wrote:

> As a person who has become financially independent SOLELY through
> investing let me add a few things
>
> Ill give you 158 billion reasons why we will have no depression<br/>
>
> Mr warren Buffett the only person to ever earn over 150 billion for
> he and his investors allocating capital has told you it is not happening
>
>
> Want more proof. none of the big shorts like paulson Rogers Soros
> chanos kass are shorting financials here like they were
>
> Want more proof Chinese economy would fold if america's 12 trillion
> dollar econmy just died out or even went back drastically
>
> Fact is you can continue to get debt as long as someone is willing
> to back you
>
> China will back us but at what price?
>
> Forget all this depression crap.not happening
>
> what happened last year wa sa massive deleveraging]]>
Faber: Gold a Better Buy than at $300/oz. http://seekingalpha.com/article/174088-faber-gold-a-better-buy-than-at-300-oz?source=feed#comment-768213 768213

On Nov 19 12:57 PM bobbybutte wrote:

> Fromeher i follow you
>
> But let me add something
>
> Gold was 300 when the S&amp;P was grossly overvalued and many stocks
> like IBM had high pes
>
> Now large cap multinationals are undervalued historically for the
> most part and gold is a very crowded trade
>
> For example is 1990 gold was about 400 bucks today its over 1100
> and the 100K you invested would be be about 275 K but you have gotten
> no income
>
> But if you bought KO in 1990 at teh same pe its at now you would
> have gotten more appreciation in the last 7 years of dividends than
> golds entire cap gain was
>
> You would have been taxed less and also the 100000 you put in Ko
> would have spit you out over 200k in the past 8 years alone
>
> and your Ko would be worth 1,150,000 now
>
> Large cap multinationals are better than gold UNLESS gold is at record
> lows and stocks are overvalued like in most of this decade
>
> Remember what wise people do in the beginning fools do in the end]]>
Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:01:23 -0500

On Nov 19 12:57 PM bobbybutte wrote:

> Fromeher i follow you
>
> But let me add something
>
> Gold was 300 when the S&amp;P was grossly overvalued and many stocks
> like IBM had high pes
>
> Now large cap multinationals are undervalued historically for the
> most part and gold is a very crowded trade
>
> For example is 1990 gold was about 400 bucks today its over 1100
> and the 100K you invested would be be about 275 K but you have gotten
> no income
>
> But if you bought KO in 1990 at teh same pe its at now you would
> have gotten more appreciation in the last 7 years of dividends than
> golds entire cap gain was
>
> You would have been taxed less and also the 100000 you put in Ko
> would have spit you out over 200k in the past 8 years alone
>
> and your Ko would be worth 1,150,000 now
>
> Large cap multinationals are better than gold UNLESS gold is at record
> lows and stocks are overvalued like in most of this decade
>
> Remember what wise people do in the beginning fools do in the end]]>
Faber: Gold a Better Buy than at $300/oz. http://seekingalpha.com/article/174088-faber-gold-a-better-buy-than-at-300-oz?source=feed#comment-768207 768207

On Nov 19 12:57 PM bobbybutte wrote:

> Fromeher i follow you
>
> But let me add something
>
> Gold was 300 when the S&amp;P was grossly overvalued and many stocks
> like IBM had high pes
>
> Now large cap multinationals are undervalued historically for the
> most part and gold is a very crowded trade
>
> For example is 1990 gold was about 400 bucks today its over 1100
> and the 100K you invested would be be about 275 K but you have gotten
> no income
>
> But if you bought KO in 1990 at teh same pe its at now you would
> have gotten more appreciation in the last 7 years of dividends than
> golds entire cap gain was
>
> You would have been taxed less and also the 100000 you put in Ko
> would have spit you out over 200k in the past 8 years alone
>
> and your Ko would be worth 1,150,000 now
>
> Large cap multinationals are better than gold UNLESS gold is at record
> lows and stocks are overvalued like in most of this decade
>
> Remember what wise people do in the beginning fools do in the end]]>
Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:54:04 -0500

On Nov 19 12:57 PM bobbybutte wrote:

> Fromeher i follow you
>
> But let me add something
>
> Gold was 300 when the S&amp;P was grossly overvalued and many stocks
> like IBM had high pes
>
> Now large cap multinationals are undervalued historically for the
> most part and gold is a very crowded trade
>
> For example is 1990 gold was about 400 bucks today its over 1100
> and the 100K you invested would be be about 275 K but you have gotten
> no income
>
> But if you bought KO in 1990 at teh same pe its at now you would
> have gotten more appreciation in the last 7 years of dividends than
> golds entire cap gain was
>
> You would have been taxed less and also the 100000 you put in Ko
> would have spit you out over 200k in the past 8 years alone
>
> and your Ko would be worth 1,150,000 now
>
> Large cap multinationals are better than gold UNLESS gold is at record
> lows and stocks are overvalued like in most of this decade
>
> Remember what wise people do in the beginning fools do in the end]]>
Faber: Gold a Better Buy than at $300/oz. http://seekingalpha.com/article/174088-faber-gold-a-better-buy-than-at-300-oz?source=feed#comment-768200 768200

On Nov 19 08:31 AM Fibozachi wrote:

> Please put that call up on the wall right next to Dick Bove's US
> Dollar to zero; utterly ridiculous and without any technical merit.
>
>
> Technical Profiles of Gold vs Silver, the US Dollar vs Gold and the
> US Dollar with highlights from an interview with the winner of the
> 2008 Automated Trading Championship
>
> www.zerohedge.com/arti...
>
>
> As for a quick overview of price action within the primary domestic
> equity and international currency markets ... yesterday’s internal
> market readings were reflective of only one thing: HFT algos attempting
> to pin XOM et al. ahead of OpEx as the DJIA takes decisive leadership
> across domestic equity markets while the NDX-100, SP-500 and RUSSELL
> 2K considerably under-perform. For a more detailed explanation of
> this concept, please see “Technical Profiles of 8 Key Stocks: AIG,
> BIDU, CAT, CELG, DRYS, GS, IBM, SKF.”
>
>
> VOLD lame … ADD weak … TICK highly erratic while the VIX continues
> to coil lower and register serious positive divergences on the weekly.
> The $DXY US Dollar Index plotted a new swing low yesterday at 74.68
> yet reversed sharply to close well over the 75 handle. ONLY a 135
> minute (1/3 the cash) or 144 minute close above 75.77 will shift
> the hourly profile from bearish to neutral; and until there are two
> consecutive closes above 76.89 there is NO uptrend to speak of. The
> EURO appears to be initially confirming a possible USD bottom. Swissie
> (CHF) and EuroYen (EURJPY) are the next two majors/ crosses needed
> to confirm any possible US Dollar bottom.]]>
Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:50:13 -0500

On Nov 19 08:31 AM Fibozachi wrote:

> Please put that call up on the wall right next to Dick Bove's US
> Dollar to zero; utterly ridiculous and without any technical merit.
>
>
> Technical Profiles of Gold vs Silver, the US Dollar vs Gold and the
> US Dollar with highlights from an interview with the winner of the
> 2008 Automated Trading Championship
>
> www.zerohedge.com/arti...
>
>
> As for a quick overview of price action within the primary domestic
> equity and international currency markets ... yesterday’s internal
> market readings were reflective of only one thing: HFT algos attempting
> to pin XOM et al. ahead of OpEx as the DJIA takes decisive leadership
> across domestic equity markets while the NDX-100, SP-500 and RUSSELL
> 2K considerably under-perform. For a more detailed explanation of
> this concept, please see “Technical Profiles of 8 Key Stocks: AIG,
> BIDU, CAT, CELG, DRYS, GS, IBM, SKF.”
>
>
> VOLD lame … ADD weak … TICK highly erratic while the VIX continues
> to coil lower and register serious positive divergences on the weekly.
> The $DXY US Dollar Index plotted a new swing low yesterday at 74.68
> yet reversed sharply to close well over the 75 handle. ONLY a 135
> minute (1/3 the cash) or 144 minute close above 75.77 will shift
> the hourly profile from bearish to neutral; and until there are two
> consecutive closes above 76.89 there is NO uptrend to speak of. The
> EURO appears to be initially confirming a possible USD bottom. Swissie
> (CHF) and EuroYen (EURJPY) are the next two majors/ crosses needed
> to confirm any possible US Dollar bottom.]]>
U.S. Commodity Funds to Begin Trading 'United States 12 Month Natural Gas Fund' http://seekingalpha.com/article/173764-u-s-commodity-funds-to-begin-trading-united-states-12-month-natural-gas-fund?source=feed#comment-765792 765792

On Nov 17 04:51 PM SCN4 wrote:

> It will be interesting to see how this ETF plays out. For now, it
> appears UNG is still a good short. Market remains soft for the foreseeable
> future IMHO.
>
> www.liveenergy.com/200.../]]>
Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:20:49 -0500

On Nov 17 04:51 PM SCN4 wrote:

> It will be interesting to see how this ETF plays out. For now, it
> appears UNG is still a good short. Market remains soft for the foreseeable
> future IMHO.
>
> www.liveenergy.com/200.../]]>