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  • Vringo +12.9%; case data points to U.K. ZTE settlement [View news story]
    Tech
    I do appreciate your frank in put & would like to hear opinions of others in particular those I sighted. One question though...if "v" has a bright future why is it not reflected in "calls".
    Thanks again
    May 27, 2015. 11:31 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Vringo +12.9%; case data points to U.K. ZTE settlement [View news story]
    vitosoranno1,Vet67to82, Kevin Porter

    I had suggested & still believe (not a pump!)(biased on your comments below) our position is getting strongerIn light of your comments / calculations / current success, adding a heavy dose of conservatism (as we could loose) could not, one say, there is the possibility of this thing going to the $50.00 range. Long term “V” could become the “go to guys” for patentprotection.worth an additional $7 billion dollars" not to sound irrational but perhaps 7 is aConservative number...this may be mixing apples & oranges....in JJ court V went for3.5% after G shenanigans v got 6.5 0r 7%...my thinking is that was forInfrastructure Revenues.....in ZTE case V ask for Infrastructure Revenues 0.5% 0.5%0.5%... stand me up to be corrected if mixing A's & O's.In any event with a large win “V “will be a company to be reckoned with....and will spend more time dealing with companies coming to them for settlement than in court enforcing....say 6.5% (or even .5%) of a companies20% of gross X the number of companies exposed=more than chump change. So then, the question is, what's that dollar amt. & what's the impact of the value of V stock. Admittedly many variables (one that can set the base wilbecome the figures that come out on the first big settlement/verdict) and the welcome to a guesstimate. V today's say $1.00 what effect would1billion....2....... be on the price of V stock.

    vitosoranno1 said
    " be worth an additional $7 billion dollars" not to sound irrational but perhaps 7 is a conservative number...this may be mixing apples & oranges...in JJ court V went for3.5% after G shenanigans v got 6.5 0r 7%...my thinkingis that was for Infrastructure Revenues.....in ZTE case V ask for InfrastructureRevenues 0.5% 0.5%0.5%... stand me up to be corrected if mixing A's & O's. In any event with a largwin V will be a company to be reckoned with....and willspend more time dealing with companies coming to them for a settlement thanin court enforcing....say 6.5(oeven .5%) of a companies 20% of gross X the number of companies exposed=morthan chump change. So then the question in, what's that dollar amt. & what's the impact of the value of V stock. Admittedly many variables (one that can set thebasis will be the figures that come out on the first big settlement / verdict) and thewelcome to a guesstimate. V today's say $1.00 what effect would1billion....2....... be on the price of V stock.”

    vitosoranno1 said
    "In response to your question:"what effect would 1billion....2....3.... etc. be on theprice of V stock," a very rough computation would entail dividing whatever netincome comes out of a settlement/lawsuit and divide that figure by approximately100 million shares. The result will be the net earnings per share (EPS).To arrive at stock price you could multiply the EPS by whatever multiple you feel appropriate.
    Just keep in mind that the EPS for EACH $1 billion in net income will approximate$10.00!!!"

    Vet67to82’s calculation (only for google) http://bit.ly/1c85VNi

    Kevin Porter calculated the on this link http://bit.ly/1c85VNk

    Kevin ,in light of where we are now AND with the appropriate adjustments ANDshould “V” be successful in G & zte cases PLUS the positive influence on others who are knowingly infringing may be motivated to come forward & strike a Licensing agreement thus avoiding legal issues & higher costs. =? $$ amt____

    In light of these comments / calculations and adding a heavy dose of conservatism (as we could loose) could not, one say, there is the possibility of this thing going to the $50.00 range? Long term “V” could become the “go to guys” for patent protection. worth an additional $7 billion dollars" not to sound irrational but perhaps 7 is aConservative number...this may be mixing apples & oranges....in JJ court V went for3.5% after G shenanigans v got 6.5 0r 7%...my thinking is that was forInfrastructure Revenues.....in ZTE case V ask for Infrastructure Revenues 0.5% 0.5%0.5%... stand me up to be corrected if mixing A's & O's.In any event with a large win“V “will be a company to be reckoned with....and will spend more time dealing withcompanies coming to them for settlement than in court enforcing....say 6.5% (or even .5%) of a companies20% of gross X the number of companies exposed=morethan chump change. So then, the question is, what's that dollar amt. & what's the impact of the value of V stock. Admittedly many variables ( one that can set thebais will be the figures that come out on the first big settlement/verdict) and the welcome to a guesstimate. V today's say $1.00 what effect would1billion....2....... be on the price of V stock.
    May 21, 2015. 05:55 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Update: Ditch Vringo On This Pop [View article]
    If the GVR is granted (time line is?) 1.Will they ask the lower court to reverse the decision on the finding of "lack of claim of construction"?
    2. And to what effect?
    3.Will/can the court (scotus direct) the lower court ( appeals or JJ?) to fix the decimal error of the jury. Can 3x be applied?
    4.Recognizing JJ did an increase of 3.5% to 6.5% of 20%.
    What will happen and where with latches? Will Petrella vs. MGM play a roll? To what effect if any?
    5.Finally if all goes well what's $ value on SP?
    6. How many actions (appeals ect) could possably occur?
    7. time factor for above?
    8. Total projected income?..............+3x =$.............?
    May 17, 2015. 10:44 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Vringo +12.9%; case data points to U.K. ZTE settlement [View news story]
    have hit a road block getting into news paper archives
    May 14, 2015. 06:36 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Update: Ditch Vringo On This Pop [View article]
    Vet67to82
    Boies is to legal prose as Shakespeare is to literary prose. A great read that didn't skip a beat and gave direction for systematic correction.
    May 14, 2015. 03:05 PM | 4 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Update: Ditch Vringo On This Pop [View article]
    Good read for INDIA action
    Analysis:" This is undoubtedly a major judicial pronouncement on the issue of injunction and patents. However, it does not stop just there – it provides the standard for a person to be an expert in the field at issue. It also provides the framework for adequately determining balance of convenience in patent cases. Procedurally, it provides the relevant guidelines for what could be included in a rejoinder. Finally, it underscores the importance of an expert and appropriate usage thereof in patent matters.

    Vringo or ZTE could very well appeal to the Supreme Court against this order. Vringo against the fact that regardless of the fact that the expert affidavit, the plaint substantially disclosed that the patent was being infringed. This is because a comparison would show that Nokia/Vringo’s patent disclosed location of a user to a micro cell includes a simple determination first of where (i.e in which micro cell under a macro cell) a user was, versus ZTE’s admission that a user is allowed to reach a micro cell. However, this is a matter of trial. ZTE could appeal that since no factor was adjudged in Vringo’s favour, yet they were asked to render bank guarantee, accounts etc. for both ‘572 patent infringement case as well as under the ‘980 case."
    source: http://bit.ly/1PGIJTC
    for comprehensive info go to
    vrng24
    May 13, 2015. 12:21 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Update: Ditch Vringo On This Pop [View article]
    xamd
    have you go to S.A.
    Vringo +12.9%; case data points to U.K. ZTE settlement
    May 13, 2015. 11:30 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Does TapImmune Have What It Takes To Succeed? [View article]
    What's the latest?
    May 12, 2015. 03:36 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Vringo +12.9%; case data points to U.K. ZTE settlement [View news story]
    Tech
    He appears to be our Judge.... could all our delays be caused by a judge that is busy defending himself & the corruption charges. We no ZTE's reputation there ethics what they might do if the opportunity presented itself so we MUST have a Judge beyond reproach as we assume is the case in all courts. TOTO we are not in Kansas anymore...and that's why we need to know the players.
    A notable point has been made re:in may most recent comment the link, it has been pointed out to me that it appears to be a blog by Seema Sapra. So the next step will be to find news paper stories to support what's stated in the above link. Any lawyers out there....what professional journals, docket # ect could be researched.
    May 12, 2015. 01:50 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Vringo +12.9%; case data points to U.K. ZTE settlement [View news story]
    Perhaps we should keep a closer eye on India arena. Found the following in my search of the professional strengths all lawyers involved & Judges.


    Wednesday, 21 May 2014
    Corruption Complaint against Delhi High Court Judge V K Shali in connection with Whistle-blower corruption and right to life Writ Petition pending in the Delhi High Court since February 2012 – Writ Petition (Civil) 1280/ 2012 (Seema Sapra v General Electric Company and Others) and the connected matter OMP 647 of 2012 AND corruption complaint against Judge G S Sistani and Judge A K Pathak for deliberately endangering the life of whistle-blower Seema Sapra AND complaint of immediate threat to the life of whistle-blower Seema Sapra, who is a crucial witness in the corruption complaints that are the subject matter of WP Civil 1280 of 2012
    21 May 2014
    http://bit.ly/1FgtUrf
    May 11, 2015. 05:05 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Vringo +12.9%; case data points to U.K. ZTE settlement [View news story]
    All
    Lets suppress the tit for tat we can go elsewhere and see a lower level of discourse...one would hope we are at the level of disagreeing w/o being disagreeable, sorry, a clichés but applicable.
    I do appreciate SA as the comments are usually relevant, thought provoking and insightful.... with meat on the bone, how bout we maintain that level.
    "meat on the bone" how bout we research the legal teams (of both sides) & judges, history's in each country, links to there professional bio's, win/losses,experience, judges rulings ie:each of us take a country collect (cut n paste) and forward to vrng24 for posting. vrng24 has made the comment it would take to long for one to complete the task accurately. If interested see below:http://bit.ly/1F0Vy9M
    or go to the court sites or wherever and dig up names.
    May 7, 2015. 11:26 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Vringo +12.9%; case data points to U.K. ZTE settlement [View news story]
    Kevin
    Were that a motion,I would second it.
    mgt has to keep settlements vague so they don't affect future negotiations.
    Strike... did make a point "if there is any repeat of the 2012 abuses (Perlman actually cashed $ 7 million, not 400k) " humility is a virtue to be learned...Think they got that?
    May 5, 2015. 05:35 PM | 4 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Update: Ditch Vringo On This Pop [View article]
    Vet67to82,Techinvestor80
    Unsure of your past discussions/disagreements but both have added value to this discussion...would appreciate your comments on the following and would invite Vitosoranno1 to do same...Kevins out there but will ignore commenting.
    I see the value in the spread sheets as through discussion here & comments made by K.P.& others a...a 7 billion target is possible. However, there are SUBJECTIVE variables that are difficult to quantify in numbers. So, if we take the numbers in the spread sheets,quantify numerically past presidential case history, quantify a value the legal teams, quantify The Judges in @ jurisdiction ( like J. Kaplin) VET your spread sheets = much quantitative analysis of numbers reported. TECH your experience & study though not quantitative has guesstimate value that is to be considered ie: you've recognized the human VARABLES that come into play and there are many. The challenge is to quatify ( nearly impossible) those VARABLES. At best by doing (below)we can arrive at an informed analysis of those VARABLES. Nop this area is not the norm in investing, therefore as unconventional as this area of investment is these VARIABLES must be addressed to form a factual cause & effect that will bring greater credence to support Tech's doubts re: refuting 7 billion possibility.

    I had earlier noted an analogy as followers:
    Real diehard football fans know the strengths of there and the oppositions team
    player by player ect. making wagers accordingly.... why aren't we..IE: the successrate of the lawyers for both V & ZTE in each country & track records of Judges (like we know Kaplan) ...to subjective & non predictive
    as it has to do with human judgment/precedence/la... way does the football bounce? Yet billions are wagered. We are ignoring the subjective stats of those on the field. I hope "V" mgt didn't internationally.....can only assume they are of the caliber of Mr Boise (SP?)
    Admittedly this research would take much time...Numerical values assigned on the analysis of subjective variables (most difficult) and equal application of those values on all subject. Any statisticians out there?

    Thanks Teck80, Vet67,Vito1
    add:vrng24 great site
    May 4, 2015. 11:14 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Vringo +12.9%; case data points to U.K. ZTE settlement [View news story]
    Very good refrence link
    http://bit.ly/1GChsN3
    May 1, 2015. 11:19 AM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Update: Ditch Vringo On This Pop [View article]
    vito
    can't find anything in news...need court link for U.K. to plug in case numbers...but if its a settlement prob be confidential... Case Ref: HC12D03985 & HC12B04711
    Vringo v ZTE
    &
    did you get this..vrng24.wordpress...
    May 1, 2015. 10:40 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
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