jerrydd's Comments RSS Syndication from SeekingAlpha.com http://seekingalpha.com/user/317487/comments http://seekingalpha.com/article/1199801/comments?source=feed#comment-15151511 15151511 What I don't understand it what the engine building problems, costs are?

Why are not truck gasoline engines just given high compression ratio's and a NG carb?

It was done in the 70's this way and worked very well as NG is so clean they lasted 200-300k miles easily.

The only difference between a NG and liquid fueled engines is the fuel tank as far as costs goes. There is no reason a 400hp NG engine sould cost over $3k vs $10k plus for a diesel. That difference should easily cover the tank, etc costs of NG so NG vehicles should cost no more than diesel ones do. ]]> Mon, 18 Feb 2013 09:46:05 -0500 What I don't understand it what the engine building problems, costs are?

Why are not truck gasoline engines just given high compression ratio's and a NG carb?

It was done in the 70's this way and worked very well as NG is so clean they lasted 200-300k miles easily.

The only difference between a NG and liquid fueled engines is the fuel tank as far as costs goes. There is no reason a 400hp NG engine sould cost over $3k vs $10k plus for a diesel. That difference should easily cover the tank, etc costs of NG so NG vehicles should cost no more than diesel ones do. ]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/1104671/comments?source=feed#comment-13586351 13586351
Chevron and big oil stopped EV's in the 90's by faking that Fuel Cells car were the future and other lies and propganda which you seem to have bought hook, line and sinker.

Tesla S is not a joke or an economy car/EV but a high tech sport sedan that beats the pants off the others in it's price range on the track and off. And everyone made is already sold with production ramping up fast. Why would you think it was an economy car? Biased?

EV's don't have battery or range problems that don't have solutions, just car companies that don't want to make those solutions.

Range seems to be the big one yet 50 mile range takes care of 90% of US car trips that with a modest generator of 10kw/15hp gives unlimited range at far higher eff. This is far more cost effective that the small battery, bigger engine version if done right.

Big auto is on purpose making EV's expensive lying about battery cost which are under $250/kwhr for a pack and the materials are under $100 for the 22lbs of mostly plastics, alum, copper, iron that make up 97% of them. Only .5lb of lithium/kwhr is used and it isn't expensive. Again anyone can by Lithium cells for $250/kwhr RETAIL in EV quanities. Why can't big auto?

Lead batteries at $70/kwhr can work fine in EV's if designed for them again making the battery cost point moot.

I've driven my custom EV's for 15 yrs at 25% of the cost of a similar ICE would using forklift EV tech instead of the complicated ones big auto uses to make EV's look bad.

Again I drive my EV's at very low cost and laugh at others all the way to the bank.]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2013 10:05:42 -0500
Chevron and big oil stopped EV's in the 90's by faking that Fuel Cells car were the future and other lies and propganda which you seem to have bought hook, line and sinker.

Tesla S is not a joke or an economy car/EV but a high tech sport sedan that beats the pants off the others in it's price range on the track and off. And everyone made is already sold with production ramping up fast. Why would you think it was an economy car? Biased?

EV's don't have battery or range problems that don't have solutions, just car companies that don't want to make those solutions.

Range seems to be the big one yet 50 mile range takes care of 90% of US car trips that with a modest generator of 10kw/15hp gives unlimited range at far higher eff. This is far more cost effective that the small battery, bigger engine version if done right.

Big auto is on purpose making EV's expensive lying about battery cost which are under $250/kwhr for a pack and the materials are under $100 for the 22lbs of mostly plastics, alum, copper, iron that make up 97% of them. Only .5lb of lithium/kwhr is used and it isn't expensive. Again anyone can by Lithium cells for $250/kwhr RETAIL in EV quanities. Why can't big auto?

Lead batteries at $70/kwhr can work fine in EV's if designed for them again making the battery cost point moot.

I've driven my custom EV's for 15 yrs at 25% of the cost of a similar ICE would using forklift EV tech instead of the complicated ones big auto uses to make EV's look bad.

Again I drive my EV's at very low cost and laugh at others all the way to the bank.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/1104671/comments?source=feed#comment-13570301 13570301 While I completely agree on the oil part you don't understand the same forces against NG implimentation in transport are the same keeping EV's from being a big force.

From Chevron buying the NiMH battery patents then stoping anyone from building over 10amphr cells making it impossible to make EV's from them to big auto making overweight, overpriced, overteched EV's then not backing them with advertising shows the forces against them.

Next big auto claims high Lithium battery prices of $6-700/kwhr when they can be had for under $250kwhr at retail prices that Tesla uses. So Big auto is overpricing EV's by 50% at least.

If EV's were made lightweight, aero even lead batteries would give 100 mile range at far less cost. A 2 seat EV sportwagon done in composites with 100 mile range and a 7kw generator to give unlimited range could easily be produced for under $13k with a battery pack cost of $1k. But they don't rust or need much service or parts after the sale which would hurt their biggest profit center, after sales parts and cut future sales of gas cars.

GM has built 2 of these, the Impact EV, the prototype for the EV-1 and the GM UltraLite showcar either of which done in medium tech composites could be produced with a good profit for $15k.

I have custom lightweight EV's that cost 25% to run vs similar gas versions and far less to have built that present EV's. nNow if we could get someone to produce them they would sell like hotcakes.

But the EV camel's nose is already under the tent in the form of Plug in hybrids which you'll see sales jump over the next few yrs to Prius levels as gas prices go up and their prices drop.

If we just stopped protecting international oil companies for free the $400B, 50% of our military goes to just this in thePersian Gulf and the oil wars , by putting it into the price of oil both NG and EV's would boom as the price advantage of a real free market easily favors them instead of subsidizing big oil. ]]> Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:29:18 -0500 While I completely agree on the oil part you don't understand the same forces against NG implimentation in transport are the same keeping EV's from being a big force.

From Chevron buying the NiMH battery patents then stoping anyone from building over 10amphr cells making it impossible to make EV's from them to big auto making overweight, overpriced, overteched EV's then not backing them with advertising shows the forces against them.

Next big auto claims high Lithium battery prices of $6-700/kwhr when they can be had for under $250kwhr at retail prices that Tesla uses. So Big auto is overpricing EV's by 50% at least.

If EV's were made lightweight, aero even lead batteries would give 100 mile range at far less cost. A 2 seat EV sportwagon done in composites with 100 mile range and a 7kw generator to give unlimited range could easily be produced for under $13k with a battery pack cost of $1k. But they don't rust or need much service or parts after the sale which would hurt their biggest profit center, after sales parts and cut future sales of gas cars.

GM has built 2 of these, the Impact EV, the prototype for the EV-1 and the GM UltraLite showcar either of which done in medium tech composites could be produced with a good profit for $15k.

I have custom lightweight EV's that cost 25% to run vs similar gas versions and far less to have built that present EV's. nNow if we could get someone to produce them they would sell like hotcakes.

But the EV camel's nose is already under the tent in the form of Plug in hybrids which you'll see sales jump over the next few yrs to Prius levels as gas prices go up and their prices drop.

If we just stopped protecting international oil companies for free the $400B, 50% of our military goes to just this in thePersian Gulf and the oil wars , by putting it into the price of oil both NG and EV's would boom as the price advantage of a real free market easily favors them instead of subsidizing big oil. ]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/1097321/comments?source=feed#comment-13390891 13390891 By far the biggest factor is repubs in congress keeping the economy from recovering with their obstructionist policies and stupid policies like the debt limit ones that have knocked off 3% of GDP over the last 2 yrs.

They had a chance at a grand bargain which would have greatly helped the economy by providing certainty and started the national debt problem going in the right direction but instead only passed a debt increasing bill with other economic killing fights in the near future arguing whether to pay the bills they racked up.

]]> Mon, 07 Jan 2013 09:35:43 -0500 By far the biggest factor is repubs in congress keeping the economy from recovering with their obstructionist policies and stupid policies like the debt limit ones that have knocked off 3% of GDP over the last 2 yrs.

They had a chance at a grand bargain which would have greatly helped the economy by providing certainty and started the national debt problem going in the right direction but instead only passed a debt increasing bill with other economic killing fights in the near future arguing whether to pay the bills they racked up.

]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/1095801/comments?source=feed#comment-13335381 13335381 Sadly this could all be fixed if they wanted to.

Our big future expense is healthcare and the ONLY cure is VA style for all gov paid for ones at least with everyone able tpo use it on a sliding scale based on income. This cuts medicare/caid/gov retirees, etc by 50% and stops the outragous yrly cost increases.

Next stop corporate welfare like making international oil companies pay for their protection instead of giving it to them for free and having them, coal pay for the pollution damages they cause now paid for by tax payers.

A transaction tax on all investments of .25% so wall street pays for the damage it does and stops the speculation, fast trading, etc and get back to long term investing that is needed instead of the rigged gambling it is now.

SS is easy to fix just by raising the income limits on it's taxes and cutting the top rate it pays.

I can see you all about to burst but think about the lower taxes and far better economy we'll have with a balanced budget and debt paid off will easily make up for these and it puts the costs on those who cause them where it should be. We could go to a 25% top tax rate or even lower with these .]]> Sat, 05 Jan 2013 09:55:52 -0500 Sadly this could all be fixed if they wanted to.

Our big future expense is healthcare and the ONLY cure is VA style for all gov paid for ones at least with everyone able tpo use it on a sliding scale based on income. This cuts medicare/caid/gov retirees, etc by 50% and stops the outragous yrly cost increases.

Next stop corporate welfare like making international oil companies pay for their protection instead of giving it to them for free and having them, coal pay for the pollution damages they cause now paid for by tax payers.

A transaction tax on all investments of .25% so wall street pays for the damage it does and stops the speculation, fast trading, etc and get back to long term investing that is needed instead of the rigged gambling it is now.

SS is easy to fix just by raising the income limits on it's taxes and cutting the top rate it pays.

I can see you all about to burst but think about the lower taxes and far better economy we'll have with a balanced budget and debt paid off will easily make up for these and it puts the costs on those who cause them where it should be. We could go to a 25% top tax rate or even lower with these .]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/1092401/comments?source=feed#comment-13259361 13259361 I agree with Mod as the predictions here have no chance of happening!! IEA and EIA are terrible at predictions as few have ever come true.

Facts are coal in the world as well as conventional crude will be about gone and too expensive to burn, mostly used for chemical production by then.

While it won't actually be gone many other techs will take their place at far lower costs making them unprofitable for the little left.

For instance a 100'x100' US home lot gets 5Mwhr of energy/day average from the sun and it already costs less than gasoline to catch and change it into electricity. Or by 2040 machines will take it and CO2 and water to produce liquid fuels far more cheaply than drilling, etc.

This and many other techs are already here and just need to be mass produced. So betting on coal, oil or even NG longer than 5 yrs is problematic as by then these will be available to the masses cutting fossil fuels/FF profitability and paying for themselves in FF savings easily..

I already do some of this and others are finding out which will leave big energy, utility realing from it in the near future. And many other big businesses are pricing themselves out of the market by being so greedy many will find doing it themselves is lower cost and other companies that are not greedy will take their place.]]> Thu, 03 Jan 2013 11:14:50 -0500 I agree with Mod as the predictions here have no chance of happening!! IEA and EIA are terrible at predictions as few have ever come true.

Facts are coal in the world as well as conventional crude will be about gone and too expensive to burn, mostly used for chemical production by then.

While it won't actually be gone many other techs will take their place at far lower costs making them unprofitable for the little left.

For instance a 100'x100' US home lot gets 5Mwhr of energy/day average from the sun and it already costs less than gasoline to catch and change it into electricity. Or by 2040 machines will take it and CO2 and water to produce liquid fuels far more cheaply than drilling, etc.

This and many other techs are already here and just need to be mass produced. So betting on coal, oil or even NG longer than 5 yrs is problematic as by then these will be available to the masses cutting fossil fuels/FF profitability and paying for themselves in FF savings easily..

I already do some of this and others are finding out which will leave big energy, utility realing from it in the near future. And many other big businesses are pricing themselves out of the market by being so greedy many will find doing it themselves is lower cost and other companies that are not greedy will take their place.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/1083891/comments?source=feed#comment-13081421 13081421 Interesting but misses several things. First only the companies that go vertical not only making panels but building their own solar farms or selling units on homes, buildings on time or selling the power generated are likely to survive.

In the US as the economy increases PV installations will greatly increase as hard to beat them as a home. building investment if shopped well with reasonable installation costs under $3/wt total.

Making plug and play systems one just buys from the PV manufacturer FOB including panels, inverter and mountings prewired so one just plugs into a 120vac or 240vac outlet for under $2/wt is another way.

Basically PV makers need to make a better, easier, lower cost market rather than waiting for people to come buy their panels.

Those that don't do one of these and capture more of the system profit are unlikely to survive in the US and likely other places.

If I made them I'd be installing systems over parking lots, etc in the better PV friendly states as fast as I could and selling the power as peak and/or green power and reap the profits from tax credits, carbon credits and sales of peak power PV provides so well in many places.]]> Fri, 28 Dec 2012 19:26:57 -0500 Interesting but misses several things. First only the companies that go vertical not only making panels but building their own solar farms or selling units on homes, buildings on time or selling the power generated are likely to survive.

In the US as the economy increases PV installations will greatly increase as hard to beat them as a home. building investment if shopped well with reasonable installation costs under $3/wt total.

Making plug and play systems one just buys from the PV manufacturer FOB including panels, inverter and mountings prewired so one just plugs into a 120vac or 240vac outlet for under $2/wt is another way.

Basically PV makers need to make a better, easier, lower cost market rather than waiting for people to come buy their panels.

Those that don't do one of these and capture more of the system profit are unlikely to survive in the US and likely other places.

If I made them I'd be installing systems over parking lots, etc in the better PV friendly states as fast as I could and selling the power as peak and/or green power and reap the profits from tax credits, carbon credits and sales of peak power PV provides so well in many places.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/1081221/comments?source=feed#comment-12968861 12968861 Since NG only costs about $.75/gal equivalent and the Feds pay for most of the stations, etc, why are they selling it for $2.50/gal?

The cost to liquidfy is only $.25/gal or so giving them a profit of 250%! Just why would a fleet pay such high prices? The idea is lower costs to them and overcharging is a great way to not grow to the break even point. They need to cut the price by $1/gal to about $1.50/gal for the numbers of operators to change over to LNG.

I think CNG is as good as LNG with the difference in pricing. LNG is better in the long run but not if they overcharge. ]]> Tue, 25 Dec 2012 11:25:07 -0500 Since NG only costs about $.75/gal equivalent and the Feds pay for most of the stations, etc, why are they selling it for $2.50/gal?

The cost to liquidfy is only $.25/gal or so giving them a profit of 250%! Just why would a fleet pay such high prices? The idea is lower costs to them and overcharging is a great way to not grow to the break even point. They need to cut the price by $1/gal to about $1.50/gal for the numbers of operators to change over to LNG.

I think CNG is as good as LNG with the difference in pricing. LNG is better in the long run but not if they overcharge. ]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/1061631/comments?source=feed#comment-12597171 12597171 Forced to sell electricity to a monopoly at under market rates is hardly a free market. I can get over 2x's that if a real free market.

To other posts, you really don't think the market isn't rigged? If not then why do we protect international oil companies for free taking 10% of YOUR tax $ YOU pay out of your pocket?

What about coal companies/utilities causing 15k deaths, 150k hospitalization/yr mostly paid for by the gov? And that is just the top of the damages these companies do that YOU pay for in YOUR taxes.

On gov growth look it up. Bush 43-41 and Reagan grew gov employment a lot vs getting smaller under Clinton, Obama.

I can go on but as a real fiscal conservative the corporate welfare is far more than social welfare. 3/4 of defense either protect international oil companies or pork as just 1 example.

And neither SS or most of Medicare are social welfare, but paid for benefits.]]> Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:26:03 -0500 Forced to sell electricity to a monopoly at under market rates is hardly a free market. I can get over 2x's that if a real free market.

To other posts, you really don't think the market isn't rigged? If not then why do we protect international oil companies for free taking 10% of YOUR tax $ YOU pay out of your pocket?

What about coal companies/utilities causing 15k deaths, 150k hospitalization/yr mostly paid for by the gov? And that is just the top of the damages these companies do that YOU pay for in YOUR taxes.

On gov growth look it up. Bush 43-41 and Reagan grew gov employment a lot vs getting smaller under Clinton, Obama.

I can go on but as a real fiscal conservative the corporate welfare is far more than social welfare. 3/4 of defense either protect international oil companies or pork as just 1 example.

And neither SS or most of Medicare are social welfare, but paid for benefits.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/1061631/comments?source=feed#comment-12558511 12558511 So much misinformation in these posts.

The Gov is getting smaller, It gotr bigger under Bush.

Tax cuts don't make jobs or we'd be swimming in them. They actually gives us the deficit, debt and the economic crash of 2008.

Business is waiting for repubs to get off their butts and pass a decent economic budget along the Obama lines and the economy will boom. Even WS CEO's say they should be responsible and raise selective taxes.

And repubs need to stop rigging the economy for the rich and big corporations so the middle class and small business can get the economy going.

For instance Repubs won't let me, other sell electricity we make in all the US by favoring utilities and their monopolies. Not very free market and those who say we have a free market are lying or delusional. The market if clearly rigged in so many ways.]]> Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:44:29 -0500 So much misinformation in these posts.

The Gov is getting smaller, It gotr bigger under Bush.

Tax cuts don't make jobs or we'd be swimming in them. They actually gives us the deficit, debt and the economic crash of 2008.

Business is waiting for repubs to get off their butts and pass a decent economic budget along the Obama lines and the economy will boom. Even WS CEO's say they should be responsible and raise selective taxes.

And repubs need to stop rigging the economy for the rich and big corporations so the middle class and small business can get the economy going.

For instance Repubs won't let me, other sell electricity we make in all the US by favoring utilities and their monopolies. Not very free market and those who say we have a free market are lying or delusional. The market if clearly rigged in so many ways.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/1039911/comments?source=feed#comment-12241241 12241241 Cooper I gave exact data then you accuse me of not doing so. That I believe is bias.

Using the site I mentioned, sunelec.com among many others and hiring an electrician to install it even without subsidies PV pays back in 5 yrs in the US average sun and electric costs. PV lasts 20-25 yrs, Do the math.

If not biased or up to date then what is the deal?]]> Tue, 04 Dec 2012 14:00:13 -0500 Cooper I gave exact data then you accuse me of not doing so. That I believe is bias.

Using the site I mentioned, sunelec.com among many others and hiring an electrician to install it even without subsidies PV pays back in 5 yrs in the US average sun and electric costs. PV lasts 20-25 yrs, Do the math.

If not biased or up to date then what is the deal?]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/1039911/comments?source=feed#comment-12227371 12227371
You certainly are not running econo 101 as yours are rather off.

And you still haven't answered whythey shut down a working nuke in Wisconson because it couldn't compete with NG? Waiting for your answer.

Meanwhile keep paying your bills that will only get higher and I'll and other smart people will be laughing all the way to the bank.]]> Tue, 04 Dec 2012 08:50:23 -0500
You certainly are not running econo 101 as yours are rather off.

And you still haven't answered whythey shut down a working nuke in Wisconson because it couldn't compete with NG? Waiting for your answer.

Meanwhile keep paying your bills that will only get higher and I'll and other smart people will be laughing all the way to the bank.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/1039911/comments?source=feed#comment-12227111 12227111
Maybe you are as biased as Dave is. Things, costs have changed greatly in the last 5 yrs. Get up to date.]]> Tue, 04 Dec 2012 08:46:12 -0500
Maybe you are as biased as Dave is. Things, costs have changed greatly in the last 5 yrs. Get up to date.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/1039911/comments?source=feed#comment-12196931 12196931
So Dave why did they shut a working nuke plant in Wisconson that no one would buy? Their reason was it couldn't compete with new NG.

Facts are well done PV pays for itself in 4-6 yrs in most places and then give nearly free power for another 15-20 yrs.

I think any solar PV company needs to start making complete products that are plug and play to capture the full profit or build their own solar farms and sell the peak power electricity.

Like new battery plants there are too many with not enough market so if either are to survive they need to make their own market. Plug and play or powerplants in PV's case and EV's, peak power, etc in Battery manufactures case.

Personally in an eff home here in Fla one only needs under a $10k PV system if well shopped and hire your own installers by the hr can be done for under $2.5k/kw. This will pay off in about 5 yrs and give almost free power for 20 more saving ever increasing utility power rates. sunelec among other suppliers.

But Dave doesn't want to hear this as it blows his rants apart.

And it doesn't matter if the utility uses nuke or whatever as the utility markup along to cover their overhead, wires, profit, dividends, etc makes any power they buy 2-3x's as expensive as a home or building making their own by solar, wind, etc since they save or make retail costs.

This is also a big threat to utilities as RE really are simple, low cost devices once in real mass production as PV has can easily out compete utilities, big oil, coal, auto now or in the near future.

EV's too will be a big part intergrated with the home, power grid but they need to be lightweight medium tech instead of the overweight, overpriced and overteched ones they are doing now.

The home, energy and transport world will radically change in the next 10 yrs because of costs, economics. Those industries need to get with the program or they will go down like so many already have.]]> Mon, 03 Dec 2012 11:29:02 -0500
So Dave why did they shut a working nuke plant in Wisconson that no one would buy? Their reason was it couldn't compete with new NG.

Facts are well done PV pays for itself in 4-6 yrs in most places and then give nearly free power for another 15-20 yrs.

I think any solar PV company needs to start making complete products that are plug and play to capture the full profit or build their own solar farms and sell the peak power electricity.

Like new battery plants there are too many with not enough market so if either are to survive they need to make their own market. Plug and play or powerplants in PV's case and EV's, peak power, etc in Battery manufactures case.

Personally in an eff home here in Fla one only needs under a $10k PV system if well shopped and hire your own installers by the hr can be done for under $2.5k/kw. This will pay off in about 5 yrs and give almost free power for 20 more saving ever increasing utility power rates. sunelec among other suppliers.

But Dave doesn't want to hear this as it blows his rants apart.

And it doesn't matter if the utility uses nuke or whatever as the utility markup along to cover their overhead, wires, profit, dividends, etc makes any power they buy 2-3x's as expensive as a home or building making their own by solar, wind, etc since they save or make retail costs.

This is also a big threat to utilities as RE really are simple, low cost devices once in real mass production as PV has can easily out compete utilities, big oil, coal, auto now or in the near future.

EV's too will be a big part intergrated with the home, power grid but they need to be lightweight medium tech instead of the overweight, overpriced and overteched ones they are doing now.

The home, energy and transport world will radically change in the next 10 yrs because of costs, economics. Those industries need to get with the program or they will go down like so many already have.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/1010881/comments?source=feed#comment-11705111 11705111 I know Clinton did but it was repubs that stopped all regulating during Bush43 which lead o so many problems. And please don't do the lame blame myth on Barney Frank who came in at the end and repubs blocked from doing anything.

Fair taxing and paying down the debt will and gave us a great economy during Clinton. But if you destroy the middle class as repubs have been doing and giving it all to the rich and corporations we all lose as who is going to buy your products and you make money from with services or the companies you invest in?

That is very short sided thinking that has been very bad for our country.

No matter which way it goes I'll make plenty off replacing oil, coal power.

Can you honestly say the repubs haven't caused the economy from recovering by the blocking of the budgets, debt ceiling? You better make them solve it quick or you cash suffers.]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2012 18:32:13 -0500 I know Clinton did but it was repubs that stopped all regulating during Bush43 which lead o so many problems. And please don't do the lame blame myth on Barney Frank who came in at the end and repubs blocked from doing anything.

Fair taxing and paying down the debt will and gave us a great economy during Clinton. But if you destroy the middle class as repubs have been doing and giving it all to the rich and corporations we all lose as who is going to buy your products and you make money from with services or the companies you invest in?

That is very short sided thinking that has been very bad for our country.

No matter which way it goes I'll make plenty off replacing oil, coal power.

Can you honestly say the repubs haven't caused the economy from recovering by the blocking of the budgets, debt ceiling? You better make them solve it quick or you cash suffers.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/1010881/comments?source=feed#comment-11684721 11684721
The is no such thing as a real free market because they will only implode as they always have.

The real problem has been the republicans blocking the needed regulations which I think should reinstate Glass-Steagall as a first step. That would allow the Fed to stop backing the too big to fail 'banks'.

Repubs also block most everything to get the economy going along with such bad policy as not allowing the nation debt ceiling to increase until it drove us back into near recession in 2011 and a credit downgrade which knocked a % off our GDP. Plus not doing a real budget deal which has and still is keeping the economy from recovering like the Fiscal Cliff and not letting taxes return to their previous rates for the wealthy and a lot of other corporate welfare which knocked another 2% of GP this yr If they don't before much longer, knock another % or 2 in the near future.

Had they not done these the economy would be much better and the Fed could allow interests rates to rise and back out of the economy.

It really comes down to corporate welfare in so many forms like coal/utility lobbying that prevents states fropm outlawing electric sales thus preventing 30k jobs just in Fla as an example. this stop myself alone from making 100 jobs.

But this goes through banking, Ag, big energy, wall street, etc.

So if you want what the article wants to happen tell the repubs in congress to stop obstructing everything and pass decent, fair budgets that stop corporate welfare so we can get back to a more free economy with some and effective safegaurds.

Then next yr completely reform the tax system so everyone pays their share that balances the budget and pays off the debt so we can have a great economy again like under Clinton where the gov got smaller. Had we kept Clinton's budget we'd have NO National debt as it would be paid off by now .

Paying a little more in taxes and a great economy is far better than what we have now and far more profitable.]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:45:24 -0500
The is no such thing as a real free market because they will only implode as they always have.

The real problem has been the republicans blocking the needed regulations which I think should reinstate Glass-Steagall as a first step. That would allow the Fed to stop backing the too big to fail 'banks'.

Repubs also block most everything to get the economy going along with such bad policy as not allowing the nation debt ceiling to increase until it drove us back into near recession in 2011 and a credit downgrade which knocked a % off our GDP. Plus not doing a real budget deal which has and still is keeping the economy from recovering like the Fiscal Cliff and not letting taxes return to their previous rates for the wealthy and a lot of other corporate welfare which knocked another 2% of GP this yr If they don't before much longer, knock another % or 2 in the near future.

Had they not done these the economy would be much better and the Fed could allow interests rates to rise and back out of the economy.

It really comes down to corporate welfare in so many forms like coal/utility lobbying that prevents states fropm outlawing electric sales thus preventing 30k jobs just in Fla as an example. this stop myself alone from making 100 jobs.

But this goes through banking, Ag, big energy, wall street, etc.

So if you want what the article wants to happen tell the repubs in congress to stop obstructing everything and pass decent, fair budgets that stop corporate welfare so we can get back to a more free economy with some and effective safegaurds.

Then next yr completely reform the tax system so everyone pays their share that balances the budget and pays off the debt so we can have a great economy again like under Clinton where the gov got smaller. Had we kept Clinton's budget we'd have NO National debt as it would be paid off by now .

Paying a little more in taxes and a great economy is far better than what we have now and far more profitable.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/1000701/comments?source=feed#comment-11556491 11556491
Facts are repub policies of lax regulation, tax cuts, war and energy have driven the country into the ground to let it die on the vine as their saying goes. Now Krugman says it's not worth doing more of the same if that is the price of repub votes and he is right.

Think about how much money YOU lost in 2008 and how much you've made back by Obama saving your asses from a worldwide depression repubs policies that took us from a $250B surplus and would have completely retired the national debt if repubs had just continued the moderate, responsable Clintion policies?

Can you imagine where we would be now if McCain/Palin had won?

You all should be ashamed of yourselves but you have no shame from many of the posts here. Why not make America first and you'd find profits are much easier to make like under Clintion was..]]> Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:47:11 -0500
Facts are repub policies of lax regulation, tax cuts, war and energy have driven the country into the ground to let it die on the vine as their saying goes. Now Krugman says it's not worth doing more of the same if that is the price of repub votes and he is right.

Think about how much money YOU lost in 2008 and how much you've made back by Obama saving your asses from a worldwide depression repubs policies that took us from a $250B surplus and would have completely retired the national debt if repubs had just continued the moderate, responsable Clintion policies?

Can you imagine where we would be now if McCain/Palin had won?

You all should be ashamed of yourselves but you have no shame from many of the posts here. Why not make America first and you'd find profits are much easier to make like under Clintion was..]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/999221/comments?source=feed#comment-11507261 11507261 I was just pointing out facts. Isn't facts what we need to make things right?

I hear plenty here trying to blame the Dem takers when it's really Red states and the rich that take and let little left for those who actually work for a living.

You can dress up a pig but it's still a pig. That should be the repub masot.

Remember YOU are paying for the massive military, Bank, big med/drug oil, etc corporate welfare that make up most of the taxes and you blame it on those who do real work. You should be ashamed of yourselves but most of you are beyond shame. ]]> Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:19:36 -0500 I was just pointing out facts. Isn't facts what we need to make things right?

I hear plenty here trying to blame the Dem takers when it's really Red states and the rich that take and let little left for those who actually work for a living.

You can dress up a pig but it's still a pig. That should be the repub masot.

Remember YOU are paying for the massive military, Bank, big med/drug oil, etc corporate welfare that make up most of the taxes and you blame it on those who do real work. You should be ashamed of yourselves but most of you are beyond shame. ]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/999221/comments?source=feed#comment-11499151 11499151 Of course no one here mentions the debasement of the currency under Reagan/Bush and Bush 43? No inflation there at all ;^P

No debt increases either !! Or the facts that under dems employment and economy as well as earning power has greatly under Dems.

Or Clinton actually balanced the budget with a $250B surplus which if his policies had continued we would have completely paid off the national debt.

Obama made more jobs than Bush43 did in 8 yrs. And that doesn't include how many more he saved by keeping us out of a worldwide depression repubs nearly got us into.

My you all have very short and selective memories.]]> Mon, 12 Nov 2012 09:40:06 -0500 Of course no one here mentions the debasement of the currency under Reagan/Bush and Bush 43? No inflation there at all ;^P

No debt increases either !! Or the facts that under dems employment and economy as well as earning power has greatly under Dems.

Or Clinton actually balanced the budget with a $250B surplus which if his policies had continued we would have completely paid off the national debt.

Obama made more jobs than Bush43 did in 8 yrs. And that doesn't include how many more he saved by keeping us out of a worldwide depression repubs nearly got us into.

My you all have very short and selective memories.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/996291/comments?source=feed#comment-11497251 11497251 Yet under Reagan/Bush and Bush 43 both gov increased in size and under Clinton it has reduced in size, No? Or are you just delusional?

Under Clinton they balanced the budget with a $250B surplus and if his policies had continued the debt would be paid off by now.

Look at jobs or increased real income for the middle class all went up far more under dems than Repubs, No? Please don't answer until you look it up.

So yes it's a big business/gov cabal which is what fascit are. They will be found wrapped in the flag carrying a Cross as the sayiong goes sucking the money by corporate welfare mostly by banking, defense contractors and big medicine bleeding the masses dry.

And it's you paying for it YOUR taxes paying for this massive corporate welfare somehow blame dems for. ]]> Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:55:13 -0500 Yet under Reagan/Bush and Bush 43 both gov increased in size and under Clinton it has reduced in size, No? Or are you just delusional?

Under Clinton they balanced the budget with a $250B surplus and if his policies had continued the debt would be paid off by now.

Look at jobs or increased real income for the middle class all went up far more under dems than Repubs, No? Please don't answer until you look it up.

So yes it's a big business/gov cabal which is what fascit are. They will be found wrapped in the flag carrying a Cross as the sayiong goes sucking the money by corporate welfare mostly by banking, defense contractors and big medicine bleeding the masses dry.

And it's you paying for it YOUR taxes paying for this massive corporate welfare somehow blame dems for. ]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/996291/comments?source=feed#comment-11496301 11496301 You do realize Red states are the ones taking more than their share and blue ones are the donors?]]> Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:34:24 -0500 You do realize Red states are the ones taking more than their share and blue ones are the donors?]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/998001/comments?source=feed#comment-11478191 11478191 All Obama has to do is get repub 8 senators and with lame duck and retiring plus a few honest brokers he'll easily get that then send his plan as most CEO's agree is needed and a grand bargain is done and fiscal cliff goes away.

I'm tired of all the people here bitching about Dem takers when it's the Red states that take the money and blue state donating it. It's whites that get the most too. Look it up.

It's also by far corporate welfare from protecting international oil companies for free to paying for the healthcare of 15k deaths, 200k hospitalizations/yr from coal plus cleaning up all the dange done by them.

Next the defense contractors trying to force the military to buy outdated equipment they don't need or want like more M-1's and F22's and ships that are not needed, etc.

The rich also get away without paying but 2% of the medicare, SS costs leaving that total burden on the middle and lower class. As a small businessman I pay almost 20% just in payroll taxes.

And why do Hedge Fund owners pay 15% - instead of the normal rates?

I can go on as you can too if you were really honest.

Now you are going to say I'm liberal but I'm an actual fiscal conservative. And remember it's YOUR taxes that are paying for this corporate welfare , about 50% of YOUR taxes go to these.

Every tax break for someone or business is a tax increase on the rest. No?

Which economy worked best, Clintons or Bush's? Which are you going to make more money? How quickly many of you forget.]]> Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:15:28 -0500 All Obama has to do is get repub 8 senators and with lame duck and retiring plus a few honest brokers he'll easily get that then send his plan as most CEO's agree is needed and a grand bargain is done and fiscal cliff goes away.

I'm tired of all the people here bitching about Dem takers when it's the Red states that take the money and blue state donating it. It's whites that get the most too. Look it up.

It's also by far corporate welfare from protecting international oil companies for free to paying for the healthcare of 15k deaths, 200k hospitalizations/yr from coal plus cleaning up all the dange done by them.

Next the defense contractors trying to force the military to buy outdated equipment they don't need or want like more M-1's and F22's and ships that are not needed, etc.

The rich also get away without paying but 2% of the medicare, SS costs leaving that total burden on the middle and lower class. As a small businessman I pay almost 20% just in payroll taxes.

And why do Hedge Fund owners pay 15% - instead of the normal rates?

I can go on as you can too if you were really honest.

Now you are going to say I'm liberal but I'm an actual fiscal conservative. And remember it's YOUR taxes that are paying for this corporate welfare , about 50% of YOUR taxes go to these.

Every tax break for someone or business is a tax increase on the rest. No?

Which economy worked best, Clintons or Bush's? Which are you going to make more money? How quickly many of you forget.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/996291/comments?source=feed#comment-11466251 11466251 Why do you think the Keystone Pipeline will help anything? All it'll do is ship the nasty crap they somehow call oil to ther gulf to be shipped overseas because western Canada won't let them ship it through their area.

We get a couple thousand jobs for 2 yrs then maybe 100 to run it. Where is the great benefit in that? And the risk of pollution is great because it's soap/water based sludge which is very hard to contain or clean up. And why the repub Neb governer wouldn't let it correctly over their water supply.]]> Sat, 10 Nov 2012 21:28:36 -0500 Why do you think the Keystone Pipeline will help anything? All it'll do is ship the nasty crap they somehow call oil to ther gulf to be shipped overseas because western Canada won't let them ship it through their area.

We get a couple thousand jobs for 2 yrs then maybe 100 to run it. Where is the great benefit in that? And the risk of pollution is great because it's soap/water based sludge which is very hard to contain or clean up. And why the repub Neb governer wouldn't let it correctly over their water supply.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/996291/comments?source=feed#comment-11466131 11466131 I don't criticize the military troops but the leaders and corporate welfare that drives it. My goal is getting our troops out of oil and other unnessasary wars. The only reason we are in most of them is corporate welfare.

I think Ike said it best and I completely agree. I doubt anyone would say he was against the military but the corporate welfare masters from big oil to defense contrators that are now trying to force the military to buy things it doesn't even want as an example that drove it.

Just why are we in the Persian Gulf at all? We have had the tech to get off oil for 40 yrs.]]> Sat, 10 Nov 2012 21:14:28 -0500 I don't criticize the military troops but the leaders and corporate welfare that drives it. My goal is getting our troops out of oil and other unnessasary wars. The only reason we are in most of them is corporate welfare.

I think Ike said it best and I completely agree. I doubt anyone would say he was against the military but the corporate welfare masters from big oil to defense contrators that are now trying to force the military to buy things it doesn't even want as an example that drove it.

Just why are we in the Persian Gulf at all? We have had the tech to get off oil for 40 yrs.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/996291/comments?source=feed#comment-11465941 11465941
Do you really like your pocket getting picked by the same corporate welfare? I think that is a mental health problem on your part called delusional behavior.]]> Sat, 10 Nov 2012 21:04:03 -0500
Do you really like your pocket getting picked by the same corporate welfare? I think that is a mental health problem on your part called delusional behavior.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/996291/comments?source=feed#comment-11465811 11465811
If big medicine can't deliver reasonably priced health care then we need an alternative. Shouldn't the job of business be to make things more affordable? If they can't then what good are they as an example?

If they can't beat the gov doing it, what good are they? We keep hearing that business is the best yet over and over that has not proven to be the case. they need a lessen instead of given the right to screw everyone including YOU!

I actually beat the system in so many ways by making my own transport, fuels, home at 20% of the cost big business supplies the same. Sadly since I can't get medicine, other health help without paying others big money for tiny amounts of work I have a hard time there without breaking laws.

Another is in Fla it's illegal to sell electriciity!! This cuts my ability to make over 100 jobs and in the state plus others making 30k jobs because repubs in fed and Fla state gov won't change the law letting me. Why? Because big energy, utilities own repubs who keep a free market from working.

Yet most Dems are for this, So who is at fault?

I'm having to produce EV MC's because big auto has paid congress to make it where it costs $10mm just to do the legal work to build a 4wh car for production. That's why so few new companies make cars. Why not have performance standards instead? Because big auto won't allow it.

Another benefit if Universal healthcare is all insurance and lawyer costs would crash because little to sue or collect for. How much would business including mine would save not having to pay for health and other insurance? Wouldn't that make us more competitive?. Profitable?

Now with the internet info is getting near free and many old time businesses are going down as they are so overpriced one can do many things better themselves.

For instance there is little reason a home can't produce all it's own power plus for an EV and to sell!! An EV is amazingly simple unless big auto builds them overweight, overpriced and overteched on purpose to make them unaffordable. Mine cost me 25% of a similar gas one to run mostly using old 70's to 1920's tech!! It works great and I laugh all the way to the bank.

Soon many are going to find this out and many industries and paperpushers,CEO's, etc are going to be toast.

And I'll make a small fortune supplying and teach others how to bypass them all. Greed will kill itself as the crash of 2008 proves so well.]]> Sat, 10 Nov 2012 20:57:05 -0500
If big medicine can't deliver reasonably priced health care then we need an alternative. Shouldn't the job of business be to make things more affordable? If they can't then what good are they as an example?

If they can't beat the gov doing it, what good are they? We keep hearing that business is the best yet over and over that has not proven to be the case. they need a lessen instead of given the right to screw everyone including YOU!

I actually beat the system in so many ways by making my own transport, fuels, home at 20% of the cost big business supplies the same. Sadly since I can't get medicine, other health help without paying others big money for tiny amounts of work I have a hard time there without breaking laws.

Another is in Fla it's illegal to sell electriciity!! This cuts my ability to make over 100 jobs and in the state plus others making 30k jobs because repubs in fed and Fla state gov won't change the law letting me. Why? Because big energy, utilities own repubs who keep a free market from working.

Yet most Dems are for this, So who is at fault?

I'm having to produce EV MC's because big auto has paid congress to make it where it costs $10mm just to do the legal work to build a 4wh car for production. That's why so few new companies make cars. Why not have performance standards instead? Because big auto won't allow it.

Another benefit if Universal healthcare is all insurance and lawyer costs would crash because little to sue or collect for. How much would business including mine would save not having to pay for health and other insurance? Wouldn't that make us more competitive?. Profitable?

Now with the internet info is getting near free and many old time businesses are going down as they are so overpriced one can do many things better themselves.

For instance there is little reason a home can't produce all it's own power plus for an EV and to sell!! An EV is amazingly simple unless big auto builds them overweight, overpriced and overteched on purpose to make them unaffordable. Mine cost me 25% of a similar gas one to run mostly using old 70's to 1920's tech!! It works great and I laugh all the way to the bank.

Soon many are going to find this out and many industries and paperpushers,CEO's, etc are going to be toast.

And I'll make a small fortune supplying and teach others how to bypass them all. Greed will kill itself as the crash of 2008 proves so well.]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/996291/comments?source=feed#comment-11460811 11460811 James I did give multiple ways to fix the economy. But obviously many here don't want the ones causing the problems to pay for them.

Or should taxpayers including you get stuck with the bill and a bad economy? I believe in full cost accounting and those making the problems, costs pay for them. Don't You. Or do you want to pay all the corporate welfare in your taxes?

Doesn't a good economy like we had under Clinton allow you to make more money than what we have now?

Or is it all Obama's fault? I'm a real fiscal conservative actually for reducing fed spending. Are you?

For instance since the Feds now pay for almost all the old and really sick if the parasites were removed and just pay the doctors, nurses and real cost for drugs, etc instead of the bloated ever increasing prices we do now including Fed employees, congress, vets, medicare/medicaid.

We could pay for everyones care for less than we are spending now. Isn't that a better deal for the taxpayers? Or do you want to keep overpaying and go broke?

Shouldn't international oil companies pay for their own protection? Or should we keep giving it to them for free? That's about $250B/yr and the cause of most terrorism against us and it's cost too. No?]]> Sat, 10 Nov 2012 15:45:50 -0500 James I did give multiple ways to fix the economy. But obviously many here don't want the ones causing the problems to pay for them.

Or should taxpayers including you get stuck with the bill and a bad economy? I believe in full cost accounting and those making the problems, costs pay for them. Don't You. Or do you want to pay all the corporate welfare in your taxes?

Doesn't a good economy like we had under Clinton allow you to make more money than what we have now?

Or is it all Obama's fault? I'm a real fiscal conservative actually for reducing fed spending. Are you?

For instance since the Feds now pay for almost all the old and really sick if the parasites were removed and just pay the doctors, nurses and real cost for drugs, etc instead of the bloated ever increasing prices we do now including Fed employees, congress, vets, medicare/medicaid.

We could pay for everyones care for less than we are spending now. Isn't that a better deal for the taxpayers? Or do you want to keep overpaying and go broke?

Shouldn't international oil companies pay for their own protection? Or should we keep giving it to them for free? That's about $250B/yr and the cause of most terrorism against us and it's cost too. No?]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/996291/comments?source=feed#comment-11457621 11457621 I have to notice you didn't mention the 2001-2008 period when the repubs drove up the debt, cut regulations and stopped enforcing those it had, took a $250B surplus which really was the higher SS payments made by the boomers since 83 to pay for their retirement and gave them to the rich by way of tax cuts and massive porporate welfare like protecting international oil companies for free, etc

Next they didn;'t pay for 2 unnessasary wars, tax cuts or make us energy independent. Then they let banks , etc get stupid and nearly put us into a worldwide drepression.

Then in 2010 the repubs blocked anything from improving like not approving the debt ceiling cutting the GDP by 1% and downgading our credit rating, blocked reforms on regulations, etc, cutting GDP in 2012 by 2% just to make Obama look bad so they could win the election.

How to fix the economy? First charge oil, coal companies the true cost of defennding them and cleaning up their pollution alone would cut the deficit in 1/2.

Give true universal health care cutting out all the parasites like insurance, drug, etc companies we just can't afford cutting those costs by 50% solving the future medical cost problem like other decent countries do.

Cut out charity, non profit deductions as they are 75% scammers.

Cut out second home interest deductions and limit first home ones to $200k.

A VAT to capture import and off book transactions.

A .25% transaction tax to stop rampent speculation and high speed trading which are driving up everyones cost.

Cut defense by 50% as most is just waste, Fire 75% of the officers and make special forces bigger and standing army smaller and make 1 US Forces instead of the bloated 4 units now. If done right we could have the same force projection at 50% of the cost.

Make everyone pay payroll taxes on all income so it can be cut by 50%.

With these we could after the national debt is paid down cut taxes by 30-50%

It's the true fiscal conservative way to lower taxes and fiscal responsability which Clinton had given us a good start on before Bush, repubs blew it all with massive welfare for the rich and corporations while nearly destroying our economy. Wouldn't youreally want a good economy and a little higher taxes until the nation debt is paid off then responable lower taxes?. ]]> Sat, 10 Nov 2012 13:21:52 -0500 I have to notice you didn't mention the 2001-2008 period when the repubs drove up the debt, cut regulations and stopped enforcing those it had, took a $250B surplus which really was the higher SS payments made by the boomers since 83 to pay for their retirement and gave them to the rich by way of tax cuts and massive porporate welfare like protecting international oil companies for free, etc

Next they didn;'t pay for 2 unnessasary wars, tax cuts or make us energy independent. Then they let banks , etc get stupid and nearly put us into a worldwide drepression.

Then in 2010 the repubs blocked anything from improving like not approving the debt ceiling cutting the GDP by 1% and downgading our credit rating, blocked reforms on regulations, etc, cutting GDP in 2012 by 2% just to make Obama look bad so they could win the election.

How to fix the economy? First charge oil, coal companies the true cost of defennding them and cleaning up their pollution alone would cut the deficit in 1/2.

Give true universal health care cutting out all the parasites like insurance, drug, etc companies we just can't afford cutting those costs by 50% solving the future medical cost problem like other decent countries do.

Cut out charity, non profit deductions as they are 75% scammers.

Cut out second home interest deductions and limit first home ones to $200k.

A VAT to capture import and off book transactions.

A .25% transaction tax to stop rampent speculation and high speed trading which are driving up everyones cost.

Cut defense by 50% as most is just waste, Fire 75% of the officers and make special forces bigger and standing army smaller and make 1 US Forces instead of the bloated 4 units now. If done right we could have the same force projection at 50% of the cost.

Make everyone pay payroll taxes on all income so it can be cut by 50%.

With these we could after the national debt is paid down cut taxes by 30-50%

It's the true fiscal conservative way to lower taxes and fiscal responsability which Clinton had given us a good start on before Bush, repubs blew it all with massive welfare for the rich and corporations while nearly destroying our economy. Wouldn't youreally want a good economy and a little higher taxes until the nation debt is paid off then responable lower taxes?. ]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/991561/comments?source=feed#comment-11419771 11419771 Obama has had the same tax credits for NG conversions, new vehicles and filling stations since the early days of his term. It's industry that is not doing it's job both the NG and trucking/fleet users especially.

Any fleet, trucking, etc companies that don't switch shortly won't be competetive. The price of oil will only go up with a bullet as there is now 4 Billion new customers wanting their share and crude oil has peaked and only going down from here.

Yes new supplies are found but the old fields are dying faster .

Personally I drive my custom EV's at 25% of the cost of a similar gas ones with unlimited range generators for those few times needing it and laugh all the way to the bank. Them and well shopped solar are investments that will return over 10%/yr for decades in most cases. ]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:12:49 -0500 Obama has had the same tax credits for NG conversions, new vehicles and filling stations since the early days of his term. It's industry that is not doing it's job both the NG and trucking/fleet users especially.

Any fleet, trucking, etc companies that don't switch shortly won't be competetive. The price of oil will only go up with a bullet as there is now 4 Billion new customers wanting their share and crude oil has peaked and only going down from here.

Yes new supplies are found but the old fields are dying faster .

Personally I drive my custom EV's at 25% of the cost of a similar gas ones with unlimited range generators for those few times needing it and laugh all the way to the bank. Them and well shopped solar are investments that will return over 10%/yr for decades in most cases. ]]> http://seekingalpha.com/article/989791/comments?source=feed#comment-11418871 11418871
Yes the far right did get Obama elected, thanks. I'm dealing quite well with it ;^P

The real problem with the budget is corporate welfare like protecting international oil compaies for free, massive defense contractor welfare and things ;like the drug company prescription welfare act that repubs won't allow the gov to bargin on drug prices.

What about the healthcare costs the gov pays on the pollution from coal of 15k deaths, 200k hospitalizations/yr plus all the other damage it does.

All these are in YOUR taxes among other corporate welfare. Remember a tax break for anyone or corporate welfare is a tax increase on everyone else including YOU!

These costs are so much higher than your supposed noncontributing element most of which were paid for by earlier work, payments. ]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2012 10:52:42 -0500
Yes the far right did get Obama elected, thanks. I'm dealing quite well with it ;^P

The real problem with the budget is corporate welfare like protecting international oil compaies for free, massive defense contractor welfare and things ;like the drug company prescription welfare act that repubs won't allow the gov to bargin on drug prices.

What about the healthcare costs the gov pays on the pollution from coal of 15k deaths, 200k hospitalizations/yr plus all the other damage it does.

All these are in YOUR taxes among other corporate welfare. Remember a tax break for anyone or corporate welfare is a tax increase on everyone else including YOU!

These costs are so much higher than your supposed noncontributing element most of which were paid for by earlier work, payments. ]]>