beentheredonthat's Comments beentheredonthat's Comments RSS Syndication from SeekingAlpha.com http://seekingalpha.comuser/325175/comments The Unsustainable Lie of Inflation http://seekingalpha.com/article/172262-the-unsustainable-lie-of-inflation?source=feed#comment-753591 753591

On Nov 09 02:25 PM Michael Clark wrote:

> Reading this makes me feel that I'm talking to myself.
>
> Inflation is the rich stealing from the poor. The Keynes' quote is
> wonderful: In this case it is the State-Capitalists (Wall Street
> aligned with Washington DC) that is stealing from its citizenry.
>
>
> Deflation is the poor getting even with the rich. Is it any wonder
> the power center in America (Wall Street and Washington DC) will
> do ANYTHING to protect their inflationary doctrine? They would rather
> destroy America that have to give back any of the money they've successfully
> stolen already.
>
> Deflation is God's way of punishing the rich. Deflation will have
> its day.]]>
Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:40:40 -0500

On Nov 09 02:25 PM Michael Clark wrote:

> Reading this makes me feel that I'm talking to myself.
>
> Inflation is the rich stealing from the poor. The Keynes' quote is
> wonderful: In this case it is the State-Capitalists (Wall Street
> aligned with Washington DC) that is stealing from its citizenry.
>
>
> Deflation is the poor getting even with the rich. Is it any wonder
> the power center in America (Wall Street and Washington DC) will
> do ANYTHING to protect their inflationary doctrine? They would rather
> destroy America that have to give back any of the money they've successfully
> stolen already.
>
> Deflation is God's way of punishing the rich. Deflation will have
> its day.]]>
How Auto Bailout Is Punishing Ford http://seekingalpha.com/article/170699-how-auto-bailout-is-punishing-ford?source=feed#comment-742066 742066 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:53:59 -0500 The Intrinsic Value of Nothing, Part 1 http://seekingalpha.com/article/169098-the-intrinsic-value-of-nothing-part-1?source=feed#comment-733967 733967

On Oct 28 11:19 AM beentheredonthat wrote:

> I think you missed the point of this blog. The activity 'striking
> the mule with a hose' has no value, unless someone is willing to
> compensate you for doing so. The hose has value, you paid for it.
> Same said for the mule.]]>
Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:21:23 -0400

On Oct 28 11:19 AM beentheredonthat wrote:

> I think you missed the point of this blog. The activity 'striking
> the mule with a hose' has no value, unless someone is willing to
> compensate you for doing so. The hose has value, you paid for it.
> Same said for the mule.]]>
The Intrinsic Value of Nothing, Part 1 http://seekingalpha.com/article/169098-the-intrinsic-value-of-nothing-part-1?source=feed#comment-733962 733962

On Oct 27 11:25 AM Hester wrote:

> I'm not an economist, and I'm not as smart as you (and I'm not being
> sarcastic). However, I think about your argument in several ways.
> I look at your economic argument from the standpoint as a normal
> American, trying to make it in modern society. I also think of your
> argument as someone who must depend on nobody to survive, as I would
> if there were some disastor that made it so. I am a naturalist as
> well as an investor, so I imagine myself sitting in the woods with
> nobody else, trying to survive. In that situation, neither gold nor
> dollars would be valuable. However, some things would still be valuable,
> which I think refutes the Austrian argument, something is valuable
> only if someone else thinks its valuable.
>
> "Nothing in this universe has intrinsic value; every single thing
> you possess, want to possess, use, can use, have used, can offer,
> have offered, or will offer is valuable only if someone else finds
> it valuable. I want you to try to imagine a universe in which no
> sentient creatures exist. How much would a “car” be worth?"
>
> This makes me think of my days hiking in the Montanan wilderness,
> with nobody else around. If I were to live in that wilderness, alone,
> with no sentient creatures around, how much would a car be worth?
> There would be nobody around to exchange something for it, like gold
> or currency or anything else. So you might say it has no value since
> there is no other human around to value it. However, it does have
> value. I would kill for a car out in that wilderness at times. You
> couldn't drive it anywhere, but you could certainly use it for shelter
> against inclement weather. You could use the cigarette lighter to
> start fires so you could preserve all important matches. You could
> use the gasoline to help fire up wet wood. You could store wood in
> the trunk to keep it dry. There are copious amounts of uses, so it
> has value, even with no other sentient creature around.
>
> You also use an anology containing a mule. If nobody would pay you
> any gold or dollars or whatever for that mule, does that mean it
> has no intrinsic value? No, not in my opinion. I guess it would depend
> on what your definition of intrinsic value is. However, a mule has
> uses and thus retains value no matter what. Even if nobody wanted
> the mule, you could still make use out of it. You could eat it for
> one. My point is, just because nobody else finds something valuable
> does not mean something retains no value.
>
> I'm not making an argument for the labor theory, I am merely stating
> what I thought of when I read this article.]]>
Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:19:49 -0400

On Oct 27 11:25 AM Hester wrote:

> I'm not an economist, and I'm not as smart as you (and I'm not being
> sarcastic). However, I think about your argument in several ways.
> I look at your economic argument from the standpoint as a normal
> American, trying to make it in modern society. I also think of your
> argument as someone who must depend on nobody to survive, as I would
> if there were some disastor that made it so. I am a naturalist as
> well as an investor, so I imagine myself sitting in the woods with
> nobody else, trying to survive. In that situation, neither gold nor
> dollars would be valuable. However, some things would still be valuable,
> which I think refutes the Austrian argument, something is valuable
> only if someone else thinks its valuable.
>
> "Nothing in this universe has intrinsic value; every single thing
> you possess, want to possess, use, can use, have used, can offer,
> have offered, or will offer is valuable only if someone else finds
> it valuable. I want you to try to imagine a universe in which no
> sentient creatures exist. How much would a “car” be worth?"
>
> This makes me think of my days hiking in the Montanan wilderness,
> with nobody else around. If I were to live in that wilderness, alone,
> with no sentient creatures around, how much would a car be worth?
> There would be nobody around to exchange something for it, like gold
> or currency or anything else. So you might say it has no value since
> there is no other human around to value it. However, it does have
> value. I would kill for a car out in that wilderness at times. You
> couldn't drive it anywhere, but you could certainly use it for shelter
> against inclement weather. You could use the cigarette lighter to
> start fires so you could preserve all important matches. You could
> use the gasoline to help fire up wet wood. You could store wood in
> the trunk to keep it dry. There are copious amounts of uses, so it
> has value, even with no other sentient creature around.
>
> You also use an anology containing a mule. If nobody would pay you
> any gold or dollars or whatever for that mule, does that mean it
> has no intrinsic value? No, not in my opinion. I guess it would depend
> on what your definition of intrinsic value is. However, a mule has
> uses and thus retains value no matter what. Even if nobody wanted
> the mule, you could still make use out of it. You could eat it for
> one. My point is, just because nobody else finds something valuable
> does not mean something retains no value.
>
> I'm not making an argument for the labor theory, I am merely stating
> what I thought of when I read this article.]]>
The World of Book Publishing Is About to Change http://seekingalpha.com/article/164700-the-world-of-book-publishing-is-about-to-change?source=feed#comment-702229 702229 Sun, 04 Oct 2009 09:01:01 -0400 Nissan, Chrysler Deal Suspended http://seekingalpha.com/article/158893-nissan-chrysler-deal-suspended?source=feed#comment-652733 652733 Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:46:37 -0400 Flickr Shuts Down Forum Discussion on Obama-Joker Image http://seekingalpha.com/article/157717-flickr-shuts-down-forum-discussion-on-obama-joker-image?source=feed#comment-642111 642111 Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:19:04 -0400 Ford: Defying the Odds http://seekingalpha.com/article/144272-ford-defying-the-odds?source=feed#comment-555925 555925

On Jun 20 11:59 AM ednaldo cunha wrote:

> How LOng will petroleum be the source of energy IN Market??]]>
Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:01:58 -0400

On Jun 20 11:59 AM ednaldo cunha wrote:

> How LOng will petroleum be the source of energy IN Market??]]>
Candidates to Replace GM, Citigroup in the Dow http://seekingalpha.com/article/140349-candidates-to-replace-gm-citigroup-in-the-dow?source=feed#comment-524205 524205 Sat, 30 May 2009 12:48:04 -0400 Fed Beige Book Gives Markets Reason to Cheer http://seekingalpha.com/article/131183-fed-beige-book-gives-markets-reason-to-cheer?source=feed#comment-465625 465625 Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:34:45 -0400 The End of (Most) Newspapers http://seekingalpha.com/article/125958-the-end-of-most-newspapers?source=feed#comment-426294 426294 Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:41:43 -0400 Putin, the Economics Professor http://seekingalpha.com/article/117911-putin-the-economics-professor?source=feed#comment-373133 373133

On Feb 02 08:21 AM Spudster wrote:

> Are you a paid shill for Khodorkovski or just dumb?
>
> Khodorkovski did not build a great oil business any more than Bush
> won the conflict in Iraq.
>
> Or perhaps your definition of build actually means steal?
>
> As for Putin - absolutely the situation in Russia isn't good. But
> it is amusing how Russia's economic situation is due to corruption
> and mismanagement, but the economic situation in the US, the UK,
> the Baltics, the rest of Eastern Europe, Japan, etc are due to <br/>"housing
> bubbles", "global recession", "high energy prices", etc etc.]]>
Mon, 02 Feb 2009 08:59:20 -0500

On Feb 02 08:21 AM Spudster wrote:

> Are you a paid shill for Khodorkovski or just dumb?
>
> Khodorkovski did not build a great oil business any more than Bush
> won the conflict in Iraq.
>
> Or perhaps your definition of build actually means steal?
>
> As for Putin - absolutely the situation in Russia isn't good. But
> it is amusing how Russia's economic situation is due to corruption
> and mismanagement, but the economic situation in the US, the UK,
> the Baltics, the rest of Eastern Europe, Japan, etc are due to <br/>"housing
> bubbles", "global recession", "high energy prices", etc etc.]]>
The SKYpe Is Not Falling http://seekingalpha.com/article/117647-the-skype-is-not-falling?source=feed#comment-371838 371838 Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:05:55 -0500 Harvard vs. Yale, Economic Edition, 1980: A Tribute to John Train http://seekingalpha.com/article/111580-harvard-vs-yale-economic-edition-1980-a-tribute-to-john-train?source=feed#comment-339320 339320

On Dec 19 08:30 PM bobace wrote:

> Agree with JE'87 Dec-19-08 01:37 PM - especially former Harvard Professor
> Tobin. If it were not for the Keysians (including Harvard's J.K.
> Galbraith) the US may have become a lesser nation: a Dickensian state
> more divided between have and have-nots than today. The current state
> of affairs was founded on Reaganomics - supply-siders, low taxes,
> higher deficit (resulting from low taxes) and deregulation of market
> participants. It was the deregulators that started the Wars on WMDs
> and Terrorism that will likely equal or exceed the $700 Billion TARP.
> Ideology on the right and left are equally dangerous. We can decide
> to rebuild a better economy through real-economy planning (New Deal)
> or sacrifice millions of poor and powerless people.]]>
Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:34:21 -0500

On Dec 19 08:30 PM bobace wrote:

> Agree with JE'87 Dec-19-08 01:37 PM - especially former Harvard Professor
> Tobin. If it were not for the Keysians (including Harvard's J.K.
> Galbraith) the US may have become a lesser nation: a Dickensian state
> more divided between have and have-nots than today. The current state
> of affairs was founded on Reaganomics - supply-siders, low taxes,
> higher deficit (resulting from low taxes) and deregulation of market
> participants. It was the deregulators that started the Wars on WMDs
> and Terrorism that will likely equal or exceed the $700 Billion TARP.
> Ideology on the right and left are equally dangerous. We can decide
> to rebuild a better economy through real-economy planning (New Deal)
> or sacrifice millions of poor and powerless people.]]>