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  • Herbalife Must Recruit 20 Million To Support Current Valuation [View article]
    actually the courts have been telling you for years

    read the Burnlounge decision
    - the internal sales are counted as the ULTIMATE users
    - whether the primary nature of recruiting [red more than 50%] to total sales
    Feb 28, 2015. 07:30 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Herbalife Meets The Definition Of Pyramid Scheme Set By Every Regulator [View article]
    The answer is whether the recruiting is PRIMARILY the root of the sales.

    95% > 50% > 05%
    Feb 28, 2015. 07:23 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Herbalife Must Recruit 20 Million To Support Current Valuation [View article]
    Given the firm is NOT based on recruiting, then any analysis based on recruiting is suspect.

    Nor is the amount of churn in members or distributors the proper basis. Members join predominantly to get the discount for themselves, their family and friends. If they reach they weight goal, some will naturally quit.

    Yet the real key is that the successful distributors are not the ones quitting. There is a core group that has a long term perspective.

    There is a high turnover of all businesses especially in their first year. These are the folks who leave and are replaced by others, yet that does not affect the core group at all.

    Further, Herbalife is changing the way they allow first year members to buy. This slows down their initial sales but has had a beneficial effect on retention.
    Feb 27, 2015. 03:16 PM | 8 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Herbalife Meets The Definition Of Pyramid Scheme Set By Every Regulator [View article]
    the FTC doing their job is to examine the data based on existing law and CASE law and not on what some individuals WANT the law to be.

    That the FTC has not IMMEDIATELY made a decision is not an issue for doing or not doing their job.
    Feb 27, 2015. 03:05 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Herbalife Meets The Definition Of Pyramid Scheme Set By Every Regulator [View article]
    NOBODY is PRO-PYRAMID

    yet there are many who note the difference between LEGAL MLM and ILLEGAL pyramids
    Feb 26, 2015. 01:14 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Herbalife Meets The Definition Of Pyramid Scheme Set By Every Regulator [View article]
    It is correct to ask how it operates in practice

    Burnlounge sales went down 95% without the incentives.

    Herbalife sells an information package for 1/8 to 1/4 the price of Burnlounge. Yet if they GAVE IT AWAY FOR FREE, it would affect less than 5% of their total sales

    95% > 50% > 05%
    Feb 25, 2015. 04:52 PM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Herbalife Meets The Definition Of Pyramid Scheme Set By Every Regulator [View article]
    read the Burnlounge decision

    The court explicitly stated personal use counts as the ultimate user
    Feb 25, 2015. 01:53 PM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Herbalife Meets The Definition Of Pyramid Scheme Set By Every Regulator [View article]
    the key part is "SHORT of"

    as in NOT SAYING IT AT ALL
    Feb 25, 2015. 01:49 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Herbalife Meets The Definition Of Pyramid Scheme Set By Every Regulator [View article]
    they are SEPARATE entities
    Feb 25, 2015. 01:46 PM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Herbalife Meets The Definition Of Pyramid Scheme Set By Every Regulator [View article]
    NO, not all MLM are pyramid schemes.

    read the Burnlounge decision by the 9th Circuit Ct of Appeals

    among the reasons why they accepted the expert witness testimony was his article with the title of differences between MLM and pyramid schemes.
    Feb 24, 2015. 12:51 PM | 5 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Herbalife Meets The Definition Of Pyramid Scheme Set By Every Regulator [View article]
    the COURTS will decide not the FTC
    Feb 24, 2015. 12:45 PM | 6 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Herbalife Primed For Positive Q4 Earnings With Improved Product Mix [View article]
    Wiley is NOT right as he tries to make a point about less than 1% of the total sales.

    Consider the 99% of the sales through their normal distribution and the answer is OBVIOUS to any who would think.
    Feb 23, 2015. 04:02 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Herbalife Primed For Positive Q4 Earnings With Improved Product Mix [View article]
    you can ask a million times and it still will NOT MATTER.

    you can give the product away or even pay people to take it on EBAY and it doesn't affect the total sales in any material way.
    Feb 22, 2015. 10:22 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Herbalife Primed For Positive Q4 Earnings With Improved Product Mix [View article]
    there is NO issue as the EBAY sales that are less than 1% of the total sales.

    Ebay is NOT the channel of distribution.
    Feb 22, 2015. 04:27 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Herbalife Primed For Positive Q4 Earnings With Improved Product Mix [View article]
    and none of that is relevant to the NORMAL SALES of the product through the NORMAL DISTRIBUTION channels
    Feb 22, 2015. 06:59 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
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