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Bemused by GDP Figures

thats right, Denis....... just a play from the 'rigged game' play book.
whats their next play I wonder.
a brief continued rise for a few more days followed by another drop,BUT holding at the recent bottom, to form a 'double bottom' and the illusion of a strong base for the sheeple to go all in.... if not next week, then a few weeks later ...however long it takes to engineer the right waves and trendline.

Start Your Own Personal Hedge Fund (and Pay Yourself the 2 & 20)

I was a subscriber to Sy's newsletter for a while.
um...I was not that impressed.
I think his 'market timer 'rank last year was 9th or something like that.
I like Joe shaefer,but didnt find sy hardings all that great. sorry.

Not a Drop to Drink: Three ETFs for Future Global Water Shortages

....thank you,Joe, for the good article.

Robert Prechter's 'Conquer the Crash': A Forecast That's Still Coming True

....I want to revise my above comments a little bit. I think I understand it a little better...the elliot wave forecasters were not necessarily 'wrong' in their wave count analysis regarding the september 23 call (rally wave end), nor was Prechter 'wrong' in his call on august 3.... If you count the waves correctly, you will see that '5 waves up' completed on both those occasions.(just as its about to do again in a few days in various charts)..... so what else Can a forecaster do when the wave count says " up wave completed"..... "next wave is down",.....thats not a 'wrong forecast'.

So whats the problem then ? The problem is that the market action is Being Rigged by the Elite Game Riggers. call them by whatever name you want....new world government, power elite, goldman sachs, federal reserve, global finance power system, whatever.... whoever is pulling all the levers from behind the curtain....
What they must be doing is issueing massive buys and sells , at the right moments, engineering stick saves when needed, changing wave structures, breaking through resistance lines when needed,etc....engineering the market movement.
The wave counting is not 'wrong'.... the game is a rigged game. thats all it is.
Its good to know how to count elliott waves. Its a really great 'vision tool'. and it works.
But its also necessary to know how to 'see' the ways the rigged game is being engineered and play along if you think you can succeed at it.
Its a dual frame of mind. I ask myself two questions at all times.
1) what is the elliott wave count?
and
2) what do the NWO Game Rigging Masters WANT the market to do right now?
....and watch how the action plays out.

Robert Prechter's 'Conquer the Crash': A Forecast That's Still Coming True

This addresses the comment I was going to make. As a subscriber to that same EWI newsletter, I see you are correct.... that Prechter was 'early' forecasting the end of the rally on august 3.I might like to call it 'wrong' instead of early. it was a wrong prediction. not good.
And just recently,in the latest issue,his forecasters did it again,calling sept.23 as the top and end of rally wave.
2 weeks later, when the markets made new highs above that mark....not only was it ...'too early' again..... the wave action completely Negates the wave count they were applying .(according to elliott wave rules).... so its not just 'being a little too early'..... its a blunderous incorrect call.
Will the markets finally end their 'rally' ...of course, and maybe sooner than later. But somebody at EWI is/has been getting the count wrong. and I'm losing a bit of respect for their analysts, - Prechter's great reputation not withstanding.
For analysts who have been doing this stuff for many years.... they are making bad calls.....or else,lets put it another way.... the market is totally rigged, and elliott wave analysis is being 'overrided by' the manipulations of government sachs.
Whats a fair conclusion?
Count the waves....but always recognize this whole market system is a rigged game,and play it like the rigged game it is.


On Oct 17 11:07 AM irondoor91 wrote:

> Points to ponder regarding Prechter and his use of the Elliott Wave
> forecasting principle:
>
> . Early in his career, he won a trading championship with a gain
> of over 400% in just a few months using options.
>
> . He called the bull market of the 1980's and the crash in 1987.
>
>
> . He put out a "short" recommendation in July, 2007 a few days after
> Sec of Treas Hank said that the economy was the "best in his lifetime".
>
>
> . He called for covering those shorts in late Feb 09. This short
> trade is likely the largest S&P futures point gain in history
> (800 points) and will probably never be beat.
>
> . He forecast (in April) that the Dow would hit 10,000 in the next
> uptrend and at the end of the runup investors and the government
> would decree the bear market dead.
>
> . On the other side of the coin, he was generally recommending shorting
> the market from time to time during the runup from 2002-2007. He
> did not see the extent of the "equity mania" generated by the massive
> credit inflation during this period.
>
> . His latest recommendation was a short in August this year. Obviously
> very early, by his own admission. One of his publications called
> a later top on Sep 23rd. Still a bit early, as the market has continued
> higher.
>
> He is now publicly forecasting Dow under 3,000 in the next leg down,
> and ultimately under 1,000 before a final bottom. Many commentators
> say that we are in a new bull market and the sins of the past are
> over and were solved by government action.
>
> Someone is going to be terribly wrong and the day of recognition
> is coming ever closer.

PetroChina: Growing Giant in Clean Energy

good details, thanks....
I like PTR also, and plan to buy some as soon as it drops back to about the 105 area.

Natural Gas Stocks: The Ultimate Form of Stored Solar Energy

thanks for those picks,Joe...thats a fine gift .
....on an off note... I'd hope you might comment sometime about the issue of any second great market crash,and whether there are any markets,any sectors , that might hold up steadier than they all did last year.
are there any 'safe haven' investments to hold?
or would it be wisest to liquidate everything into cash and/or play some short ETF's.... when the 'SHTF'.....

Is China the Key to Stock ETFs in September?

I agree.

China's Massive Healthcare Initiative Provides Vast Opportunities for Investors

....ahhhhh ,ok.... so it looks like it was a mistake made by the ....seeking alpha editor/article placement system operator ?
oh kay.... so , I suggest you (geo) are innocent. sa is guilty,and ,umm, forgiven, and with a grain of salt, I shall do my own extensive research, as I should anyway....
it looks like the kind of ideal investment idea to me. ... chinese health care, as well as chinese educational systems, same for india,and brazil.Imagine how great these countries can become if they make a better way of life for their citizens.... call it the bric version of the 'american dream' which has long since died in amerika.

China vs. the U.S.- Who Will Blink First?

.... getting back to the subject,a good question,which you just started to address, really,....who will blink first.
buying or not buying us bonds to save our empire's ass is just the tip of the issue.
I think the bigger picture is about the rise of the next emerging Empire versus the fall of the current Dying empire. The dying empire is desperate not to die,and might have played it's cards right to ... let's call it... bring the rest of the economic world down with it, to level the playing field at least, or delay the inevitable rise of the new empire.... and the next issues,which could become even more desperate ,might involve the question of how fast and how well can the emerging empires recover and can they do it without being tied to the usa? and more questions emerge in this vein, like will the usa 'allow' any nations to actually 'decouple' as they might want to do? and what will/can the usa do to stop it from happening? you ask the question "who will blink first?" but tell me ,as they stand there facing each other.... what weapons do they hold in their hand?

more questions to ponder... is it a marriage of two arch enemies,or a marriage of two friends who have no real choice but to help each other survive. ? I hope it's the latter, because the world wont be left standing if these two heavyweights decide they cant find a way to live together and the old dying empire cant manage to let the new emerging empire assume the new mantle .
200 years ago, the last great empire ,Britain, new that someday the USA would emerge as the heir to the global throne.
Britain fought the usa, every step of the way with economic warfare, through the civil war, achieving great victory in 1913 with the establishment of the Fed, and have crippled the US empire as a result with such control... such that the US Empire has never been able to shine and live up to the founding father's visions.

Now, here comes China...and the question the world is waiting to see answered is... how will the USA deal with China...how will China deal with the USA. ..... fighting with industrial sabotage,bio-terror ,weapons of mass destruction,collapsing each othr's economy,intensifying desperation to the brink of armagheddon? or will they find a way to coexist and establish a smooth,survivable transition of 'empire status' for the 21 st century ?
It seems that there really is no choice. They Must find a way to cooperate. The usa has to be noble enough to allow the chinese empire to emerge.and the chinese empire has to be benevolent enough to bring the usa along in recovery ,and inclue the rest of the developing world as well.

Investing Outside the U.S.: 12 Stocks Worth Considering

...as a matter of fact,I own stock in several funeral homes....except the problem is...business is dead


On Aug 07 11:21 AM naidle wrote:

> It's sad to me how often I hear that Potash (or ag stocks in general)
> will pick up because "people have to eat". It's like investing in
> funeral homes because "everybody dies".
>
> Can you please develop an argument that shows you better understand
> the sector?

Why Today's Stock Markets Are All About Confidence and Gullibility

......You're betting that the Deceiptful fraudulent Game Controllers will not be able to maintain their control and keep this rigged game going.
The other side of the bet is the idea that.....they Will be able to keep controlling it and do whatever they want with it.
I guess I'm thinking the trick investors need to learn is to do a Mind Meld with them and figure out what their game plan is and make the right moves accordingly.
Have you seen any indications so far that they have failed to maintain control? I havent.

Why Today's Stock Markets Are All About Confidence and Gullibility

I like the ideas expressed,as to the dishonest,deceitful,ri... game. Among the important questions it raises,is just how much In Control of this game are the GS/government/central bankers/new world order controllers... have they been developing the ability in recent seasons, and years... to control the markets, now control the world markets...with such skill and cleverness, that this level of manipulation and control that we Do see ,is just the surface level of what might be a many layered,tightly controlled completely controlled system the power controllers have established....in other words,what they are doing and plan to do is like what a chess grand master does ,completely thought through 30 moves ahead ... which would mean, they are carrying forth a plan that already knows where they will reverse the next high, and how far down they will allow the plunge before they issue the next critical stick save, and move the market back and forth to create the right looking double bottoms at support,while issueing propaganda announcements that will inspire new confidence in the fearful minds of the public, they are playing the public mind like a violin.... so somewhere in the jumble of all this is a logical vision about the mass psy op they are doing to the public mind..... here's the next big thing they need to do at some right moment if their game is going to continue to work..... they know that because of the big crash last fall, and this spring, that investors are watching and waiting for the next collapse wave with Great fear. which means that the slightest draw down below the next big support line will ignite that panic....they dont want that to happen,they want to create a few key stick saves (as theyve already done ) to establish a clearly visible support level, followed by a great chorus of propaganda about the "worst is over' etc.... to reinstill confidence among the public. they may need to rinse and repeat this process a few more times for the rest of the year. It will all be the same manufactured fake market movement controlled by the Game controllers.but it will work, as it has been working thus far.

When will it stop working? It may not . it may become the 'new normal'....just like "money" is now just a million combinations of numbers in computer systems that talk to each other every nanosecond.
We may need to just figure out how to adapt to the new normal, how to play the new improved fradulent game and make a buck.
like instead of waiting and expecting Gold to soar past 1000 on its way to 5000, maybe we need to forget about gold altogether and ask ourselves if there might be better investments in different sectors, or different countries. things like Water, or farm land, or .... chinese fertilizer companies..... something Real instead of fake. something that wont become a bubble mania.

Yara International: More Than Just Fertilizer

....a good example of fine logic in the face of the impending crash that happened ....goes to show that even solid companies will crash if the whole market crashes.... the big question remains.... what can happen if and when companies can DECOUPLE from the U.S. market influence/collapsing empire.....when will that happen... That would be the time to invest in good companies like Yara.
mister Hindsight


On 2008 Apr 14 09:38 AM CT Programmer wrote:

> Don't count on a pullback. I have had this stock since June 2007
> (when Jim Jubak on MSN recommended it). It has not missed a beat
> since. I am up 127% to-date, and it keeps climbing. The most it has
> ever dropped in a day that I can remember was about 5% and that was
> exceptional in a market where +/- 5% on any day is the norm. It slid
> back a little in January 2007, and it has had a few bumps, but if
> you're waiting for a major pullback don't hold your breath. Even
> on days (like last Friday) when ALL my stocks were in the red between
> 1-10%, YARA was in the green. It's hard to get a handle on the financials
> because its a foreign stock and you can't readily get charts or data
> on common tools like Yahoo, MSN, TD Ameritrade, etc. but I read that
> their PE currently is about 19. Compare that to Potash which is in
> the 50's. This is a little known stock that I think even if Potash
> and some of the other better known fertilizer stocks crash, YARA
> won't due to its relatively lower PE.

Soaring Stocks: The Return of the Ten Bagger

....unless you sit on your fantastic DDRX now....and watch it tank to a more sane level in the coming months...then you've got a 30 % return.