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How Will This Depression Differ from Previous Ones?

I suggest that principle has never existed in America. Colonists killed off most of the indigenous people of N. America and stole their land. Then they created a principled country where grand words like "all men are created equal" didn't match the reality that if you didn't own land you we're not equal to someone who did and where if your skin was a different color you were property.....shall I go on?

How Much Downside Could Still Exist?

Ignore? Apparently not. Opinions being like noses everyone has one and they are full of holes. Almost all those negatives you point out do exist to some degree here. The thing I like most about living here is that most Americans who come here to live can't adjust and go back home. Thanks for sharing and for caring enough to post! Have a great day!


On Mar 03 11:24 AM raytayzmd wrote:

> ...oh, yeah, right, you live in Bangkok -- that oasis of urban sprawl,
> air pollution, and child prostitution...is the military "junta" still
> in power?...no?...well, just wait a couple of weeks...pardon me if
> I ignore your opinion.

How Much Downside Could Still Exist?

Doesn't that really amount to no more than pepsi-coke? 99% or 99.9% I'm thinking that if you're commenting here you're likely not in the 1% or 0.1%.




On Mar 03 11:16 AM kruser53 wrote:

>
>
> If I accept your statement, then I would add to it. Communism makes
> slaves of 99.9% of the population. But hunter-gatherers are 100%
> free.

How Much Downside Could Still Exist?

Apology accepted. Thanks for being classy! Sorry to hear of your misfortune. Even sorrier to hear of the acute manner you came to realize what is really going on back there. All the best!


On Mar 03 11:09 AM Sentinel wrote:

> My apologies then "boats" for misinterpeting what you typed. <br/>
>
> Yes, I am indeed disgusted.
>
> No it is not really that easy to leave. Wife, 5 kids, laid off,
> lost most of my 401K, lost my house (not because I took a a loan
> I couldn't afford...I took a loan I could not afford if I wasn't
> working....at all). Lost faith and hope in most of my political
> and religious institutions who have all said they're here to help,
> when in fact when I begrudgenly called upon them (I've always been
> fiercely independent) for just such help, they could not or would
> not.
>
> Just trying to stabilize things so I can make a rational decision
> moving forward.....which indeed could be the option of leaving the
> country altogether.
>
> Before you become an expatriot in the physical you have to make that
> decision in the mind. That's why I said I am an expatriot in my
> own land.
>
> Or perhaps I should have more accurately stated....
>
> America has expatriated from me.

How Much Downside Could Still Exist?

Misguided rant? I'll repost my followup comment to you here:

"Sentinel,

LOL, I got out of that extremist-capitalist cesspool (America) 16 years ago! A quick check of my profile and website would have saved you some misdirected indignation.

Canada is much too like the cesspool FWIW. Denmark is a great place and still relatively safe for Yanks as long as they keep their mouth shut about how they used to do things back in the land of the formerly free.

For my money Asia is the only place to be.

I did not call you disgusting. I said you are disgusted. You know, as in you are disgusted with how bad its gotten....! "


On Mar 03 10:56 AM Sentinel wrote:

> Oh yeah...forgot to mention this because of 'boats" misguided rant
> against me.....
>
> We have already taken out most of the tech bubble gains if you factor
> in inflation.
>
> So....the Dow is not at April 1997 levels....we are actually now
> on an inflation adjusted basis somewhere in 1995 levels.
>
> Remember....your money isn't worth what it used to be whether it
> is cash in your hand or stocks bought with cash.
>
> And with Bernanke and Gang printing money like there is no tomorrow
> your cash and stocks will soon be worth even less.
>
> Which means that in reality my prediction of taking out the gains
> since the early 90's and even back to the eighties will come about
> much sooner that you think.
>
> But here's the key.....you have to "THINK" first.

Tuesday Outlook: Commodities, Emerging Markets

Great! As that is your goal how does this comment get you closer? Seriously!

Use the bits that are beneficial to you and ignore the bits that aren't!

Have a great day!


On Mar 03 10:50 AM thotdoc wrote:

> I read these comments on articles to gain more insight on the thinking
> in the article. But eventually people begin to attack each other.
> Happens on every thread. Is there a way to have intellectual discourse
> that does not eventually move to personal attacks?
>
> G

How Much Downside Could Still Exist?

Sentinel,

LOL, I got out of that extremist-capitalist cesspool (America) 16 years ago! A quick check of my profile and website would have saved you some misdirected indignation.

Canada is much too like the cesspool FWIW. Denmark is a great place and still relatively safe for Yanks as long as they keep their mouth shut about how they used to do things back in the land of the formerly free.

For my money Asia is the only place to be.

I did not call you disgusting. I said you are disgusted. You know, as in you are disgusted with how bad its gotten....!

On Mar 03 10:41 AM Sentinel wrote:

> boats....
>
> Already thinking about it.....
>
> When America is nothing more or quickly becoming nothing more than
> a patchwork, politically correct, quasi-Tribalist version of Canada.....
>
>
> Well...why not move to a country that has been Socialist for longer
> and does a much better job at it like Canada?
>
> Instead of calling me disgusting, why don't you allow yourself to
> assess this situation we are in and compare it to our Founding Fathers'
> vision of what America should be and more importantly.....how we
> got here and why we continue to decline in that vision of freedom.
>
>
> Perhaps you will then be a little less Jingoistic. (That's mindless
> Patriotism fueled by some misplaced Romantic Notion of what patriotism
> means....in case you didn't know)

How Much Downside Could Still Exist?

Another 6000 points or so.


On Mar 03 10:26 AM morph366 wrote:

> Intrigued by the title to this piece I read through it but unfortunately
> I am none the wiser as to how much downside still exists.

How Much Downside Could Still Exist?

Not possible to be an ex-pat in your own land. Rather, and I know this will resonate with you, why not put your money where your mouth is? Seriously. You're disgusted. Get on a plane and go where things are more to your liking. Easy really.


On Mar 03 10:13 AM Sentinel wrote:

> However, if the Cornucopians (American Utopians) don't see significant
> gains in early 2010 (think 1st quarter/March/April 2010) then they
> will finally capitulate and we could see DOW 1000-2000.
>
> Then we will finally see the total destruction of most of the leveraged
> debt buildup that began in the Reagan Revolution Era of the early
> 80's. As we should.
>
> (Just to be fair....I'm at fault here as well. I voted for Reagan
> and exclusively Republican all my life. I am part of this problem.
> However, I will not compound it by voting or supporting Obama and
> the Democrat Socilaist Party. I am now an Expatriot in my own land)

How Much Downside Could Still Exist?

There you go confusing freedom and capitalism. Capitalism makes slaves of 99% of the population.


On Mar 03 09:55 AM know nothing wrote:

> "You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy
> out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another
> person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give
> to anybody anything that the government does not first take from
> somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do
> not have to work because the other half is going to take care of
> them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good
> to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for,
> that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply
> wealth by dividing it."

Tuesday Outlook: Commodities, Emerging Markets

Think of how much beter the good dentist will feel from those brisk walks up the Flatirons everyday. Happy days are here again....


On Mar 03 09:43 AM patio wrote:

> How timely, from ABC news article, "upper income earners seek to
> avoid Obama's tax hike'. Well, duh. An excerpt...
>
>
> Dr. Sharon Poczatek, who runs her own dental practice in Boulder,
> Colo., said that she too is trying to figure out ways to get out
> of paying the taxes proposed in Obama's plan.
>
> "I've put thought into how to get under $250,000," said Poczatek.
> "It would mean working fewer days which means having fewer employees,
> seeing fewer patients and taking time off."
>
> "Generally it means being less productive," she said.
>
> "The motivation for a lot of people like me – dentists, entrepreneurs,
> lawyers – is that the more you work the more money you make," said
> Poczatek. "But if I'm going to be working just to give it back to
> the government -- it's de-motivating and demoralizing."

Tuesday Outlook: Commodities, Emerging Markets

Anybody that can't squeak by on $20,000 a month just ain't living right!


On Mar 03 09:43 AM patio wrote:

> How timely, from ABC news article, "upper income earners seek to
> avoid Obama's tax hike'. Well, duh. An excerpt...
>
>
> Dr. Sharon Poczatek, who runs her own dental practice in Boulder,
> Colo., said that she too is trying to figure out ways to get out
> of paying the taxes proposed in Obama's plan.
>
> "I've put thought into how to get under $250,000," said Poczatek.
> "It would mean working fewer days which means having fewer employees,
> seeing fewer patients and taking time off."
>
> "Generally it means being less productive," she said.
>
> "The motivation for a lot of people like me – dentists, entrepreneurs,
> lawyers – is that the more you work the more money you make," said
> Poczatek. "But if I'm going to be working just to give it back to
> the government -- it's de-motivating and demoralizing."

Jim Rogers: It's Better To Let Financials Fail

Easy to understand. They've got all our money and they will own everything. See?


On Mar 03 09:21 AM User 366653 wrote:

>
>
> As I have said, the people who believe that we should just let the
> chips fall as they may, never seem to explain how we rise up from
> the ashes after the collapse of our entire system.
>

How Will This Depression Differ from Previous Ones?

Well hell, lets expand ALL American wars to encompass the whole freaking planet! Great freaking idea that!!!


On Mar 03 09:16 AM Patrick22 wrote:

> There should now be a new rule: anytime anyone brings up the Soviet
> Union in an economic posting it should be automatically discarded.
> lol
>
> "On a related matter, the government could all but eliminate unemployment
> during a depression by giving every unemployed person a government
> job, which is effectively how the Soviet Union eliminated unemployment
> (that, and by sending millions of people to forced labour camps).
> Such a massive expansion of government is our greatest fear because
> it would make the depression permanent."
>
> There was a small event at the end of the 1930s, called World War
> II. Basically, the Gov't did give everyone a job. Millions were
> even working directly for the Gov't. And you know, it didn't make
> that Depression permanent somehow.

Lessons of the Great Depression: Generous Returns from Stocks

Don't pay attention to that man behind the curtain.