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Why Barron's Is Wrong About For-Profit Education Stocks

Lets take a good look at your comment Zizo. Your backwards statistic that u threw out there, "According to a recent AP analysis 24% of all Pell grants, $4.7 billion, went to students enrolled in proprietary colleges, which enroll only 10% of college students. " speaks loudly to the fact that perhaps your argument was not well though out or you are using a backward stat to sustain your house of cards argument. My guess is the reader is to infer that 76% of all pell grants went to students enrolled in for profits of which 90% are college students. NOT. Furthermore pell grants are just that grants that have no obligation from the grantee to repay the grantor. How that ties to the DOE "potentially" (?) tightening restrictions on "LOANS" according to your smoke and mirror logic makes no sense whatsoever. Additionally if you were even somewhat familiar with this sector you would also know that prior to this recession this sector was experiencing double digit sequential growth even in the "good times". You shorts crack me up. You tend to be "short" on fact, and long on innuendo, rumor and conjecture.

P.S. No-Schmuck's comment doesn't even dignify a response as warranted by the posts that follow it shooting major holes in it. An example of...wait for it.... premature ejacaPOSTulation long on runneyness but lacking thickey substance. LOL

Apollo Group Inc. – Profit from a ‘For Profit’

R Annis I am looking at the chart....the one that Paul put together that shows the P/E trending significantly downward from 2002 to FY 2009 and forward looking. To short this stock with these outstanding fundamentals (1.3 bil in cash and no debt to speak of on the balance sheet, are you kidding me) based upon a misguided fews (Citron) concerted effort to bring it down (see baseless litigous allegations, rumored DOE concerns, etc.) would be foolhardy. You shorts are letting Citron lead you lambs to slaughter. The fact that WSJ has gotten so lazy that they basically plagerized Citron's article should be a warning flag to anyone who has done any significant research on this stock. Paul has done a great job researching the stock historically and painting the clear picture that the shorts would not want you to see here. To ignore these fundamental would be fundamentally flawed. But then again if you run around following Citron trying to make a quick buck then its kind of like lying with dogs and then wondering how you got fleas.

Scrutinizing Apollo: The Deeper You Look, The More Problems You See

Proximo, I wonder if you have gotten in close enough "proximity" to this company to realize that every institution under its umbrella is a fully accreditted institution of higher learning. Not sure that your comment in comparision to Nat's comments isn't like comparing apples to lemons with yours being the lemon.

As for Mr. Tuttle, glad to see he bases his investment decisions off of "feel" (i.e. "Last, there’s something about feel that we can’t ignore with this company."). Perhaps he should pursue getting an MBA from a "real" university like UOP such that he may use a little more sophisticated methodology of evaluating companies more so than just "feel", rumor mongering, conjecture and misinformation.

More News of Apollo's Misconduct Could Impact Company's Future

Once again another baseless article filled with rumor, innuendo, false conjecture and misleading assumptions. This "writer" would do well to quit appearing in this forum with this same "short" sided propaganda in an effort to drive down this stellar performing stock so that he may prosper from Apollo's downfall. True Apollo has been targeted by a very small minority of interest in frivilous lawsuits in an effort to steal some of its very healthy 1 billion dollars of cash on the balance sheet. Most of these suits have been run out on a rail by the U.S Justice System. In terms of this EC bonus issue Apollo resolved that particular issue back in 2002 and this "author" continues to beat that dead horse and fan flames were no smoke currently exists. There are very smart people running Apollo, especially since the Credit Suisse and Accenture folks have shown up and their is no way in hell that they will allow their great relationship with the DOE to be harmed in any way by any dubious or questionable business pratices on their part.
As far as this "author's" slanderous put downs of the value of an UOP degree, once again he provides no basis for his conjecture and simply put sounds like an uneducated fool who has no degree to back up his nefarious writing capabilites and highly questionable analytical skills.
Once again Seeking Alpha does itself a disservice by publishing this trash.

Apollo's Big Dirty Secret Exposed

I love the emails from 2002. This is an old issue (EC bonuses) which has been resolved by Apollo several years ago. The "writer", if that is what you could call him, is the lowest form of carpet bagger snake oil charmer there is. I'm sure in addition to his short position on Apollo he has some "prime" real estate in the Florida Everglades and some great financial opportunities to sell you in collateralized debt obligations full of defaulted sub prime mortgage loans. I'm sure he's in bed with Citron as they are known to smear and defame good companies in an attempt to make a quick buck with their negative propaganda and lies and innuendo.

Whats astonishing to me is that Seeking Alpha would even publish this guy considering he displays no journalistic integrity and obviously has an axe to grind and a motive to profit from (admitted as being short Apollo). I won't be reading any more trash that Alpha puts out cause its quite clear to me that "you scratch my back, I'll scratch your back behind the scenes crap is going on here with Citron, Apha and this "writer".

New Information Raises Red Flags for Apollo

Citron is like the mean high school girl who thinks shes all that and speaks badly of everyone in a attempt to hide her shortcomings and raise her popularity. Just like in the typical plot teen movies this "beeitch" is revealed in her fully glory as a fraud in front of the whole school population (i.e. The Market) and forced to climb back under the rock she came out from under much to the delight of the plain looking protagonist jane who now becomes the Prom Queen based upon her inner beauty and honorable and I emphasize honorable intentions (i.e. Apollo).

How people can short such an outstanding historical play that blew out last quarter expectations and is clearly gaining steam for another fantastic quarter is beyond me? When the CS (Credit Suisse) people can't wait to jump the fence cause the grass is greener over on the other side of the septic fence to garner equity positions don't you think they realize that Apollo's star is indeed very bright?

This author should probably stop being a wall flower and ask this belle of the ball for a dance and he might see this beauty for who she really is which is a solid play in a down market. Good luck being short and listening to rumor mongering Citron and shallow mean spirited psychotic teenage girls.