Krugman vs. Sachs on PPIP Loopholes [View article]
Amateur?'s comment captures the essence of the PPIP loophole problem.
On Apr 06 07:03 PM Amateur? wrote:
> Krugman and Sachs are just stating the obvious - there are a number > of ways around this inconvenient 10% direct or indirect rule. <br/> > > How about a little course in Financial Engineering 101? > > Bank A and Bank B working together. Using the example above, Bank > A puts in $75k and buys $1m of Bank B's toxic assets. Bank B, ever > thankful, reciprocates and puts in a small $75k to buy $1m of Bank > A toxic assets. Assume same defaults and both banks win, taxpayer > loses. Easy. > > Something more complex? Bank A lends $75k to the equity investor > in the Fund on a limited recourse basis to the value of the equity > in the Fund. If the equity in the Fund is worthless, the equity > investor doesn't have to repay the loan to Bank A. Of course Bank > A doesn't care since they've just stuffed the taxpayer with $925k > of losses. > > Something with less linkage? Bank A has a portfolio of subprime > loans which it wants to sell (but not take losses). There are subprime > indexes which may not have perfect correlation to Bank A's portfolio > but will be very close. Investor puts in $75k equity into the Fund > to buy the $1m subprime portfolio from Bank A. Investor acquires > a credit derivative based on the subprime index (not based on the > actual Bank A portfolio) from Bank A which economically shifts most > of the risk on the $75k investment from the Equity investor to Bank > A. If needed, Bank A and Bank B can play the same game as described > above to mix it up a little. In general, if subprime tanks, both > the index and the Bank A portfolio are likely to go down in value > by a similar amount. The equity investor is flat, Bank A loses $75k > and the taxpayer loses $925k. > > I could give you some more clever ideas which which I'm sure the > banks are working on right now, but hopefully you get the idea. > In short, the system will be gamed unless very strict rules, penalties > and oversight is put in place.
Marc Faber's 10% Prediction? Gimme a Break [View article]
This article came up among "Marc Faber" news articles in a google news search. Maybe that was Todd's goal.
There are many ways Faber's projections could go wrong. Maybe the market will correct 20-30% instead of 5-10%. Maybe the "rally into July" will not materialize. The rate of economic deterioration could increase.
"I predict the sun will rise". How asinine!
On Apr 08 05:53 PM Errol wrote:
> Did you not get enough attention as a child? You seem to constantly > argue with people who have made good calls - Schiff, Faber, etc. > And like a previous poster said, if it's not news worthy, then why > are you writing about?
Geithner vs. Schiff: A Thought Bridge Between Two Wrongs [View article]
Hopefully your other 182 comments aren't so ridiculous.
On Mar 25 03:33 PM CJJ wrote:
> Here's a great idea. Lets have everyone save 100% of what they earn. > This will lead to 100% unemployment. All businesses will go bankrupt > and fail(I mean they were run by terrible people anyway, right, right...) > and we'll just start over with all the "smart people who don't make > mistakes" running the show. > Except cars won't have windows or air conditioning, maybe brakes. > > Online banking, atms, secure banking are all out. > Health care will be completed with leeches, CAT scans and expensive > surgeries are out. > Energy - we won't need it, we'll all be living in tents and living > off of seed. > Internet - sorry, shut down, just no capital for it. > > What petri dish does this all work in?
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On Apr 06 07:03 PM Amateur? wrote:
> Krugman and Sachs are just stating the obvious - there are a number
> of ways around this inconvenient 10% direct or indirect rule. <br/>
>
> How about a little course in Financial Engineering 101?
>
> Bank A and Bank B working together. Using the example above, Bank
> A puts in $75k and buys $1m of Bank B's toxic assets. Bank B, ever
> thankful, reciprocates and puts in a small $75k to buy $1m of Bank
> A toxic assets. Assume same defaults and both banks win, taxpayer
> loses. Easy.
>
> Something more complex? Bank A lends $75k to the equity investor
> in the Fund on a limited recourse basis to the value of the equity
> in the Fund. If the equity in the Fund is worthless, the equity
> investor doesn't have to repay the loan to Bank A. Of course Bank
> A doesn't care since they've just stuffed the taxpayer with $925k
> of losses.
>
> Something with less linkage? Bank A has a portfolio of subprime
> loans which it wants to sell (but not take losses). There are subprime
> indexes which may not have perfect correlation to Bank A's portfolio
> but will be very close. Investor puts in $75k equity into the Fund
> to buy the $1m subprime portfolio from Bank A. Investor acquires
> a credit derivative based on the subprime index (not based on the
> actual Bank A portfolio) from Bank A which economically shifts most
> of the risk on the $75k investment from the Equity investor to Bank
> A. If needed, Bank A and Bank B can play the same game as described
> above to mix it up a little. In general, if subprime tanks, both
> the index and the Bank A portfolio are likely to go down in value
> by a similar amount. The equity investor is flat, Bank A loses $75k
> and the taxpayer loses $925k.
>
> I could give you some more clever ideas which which I'm sure the
> banks are working on right now, but hopefully you get the idea.
> In short, the system will be gamed unless very strict rules, penalties
> and oversight is put in place.
Marc Faber's 10% Prediction? Gimme a Break [View article]
There are many ways Faber's projections could go wrong. Maybe the market will correct 20-30% instead of 5-10%. Maybe the "rally into July" will not materialize. The rate of economic deterioration could increase.
"I predict the sun will rise". How asinine!
On Apr 08 05:53 PM Errol wrote:
> Did you not get enough attention as a child? You seem to constantly
> argue with people who have made good calls - Schiff, Faber, etc.
> And like a previous poster said, if it's not news worthy, then why
> are you writing about?
Geithner vs. Schiff: A Thought Bridge Between Two Wrongs [View article]
On Mar 25 03:33 PM CJJ wrote:
> Here's a great idea. Lets have everyone save 100% of what they earn.
> This will lead to 100% unemployment. All businesses will go bankrupt
> and fail(I mean they were run by terrible people anyway, right, right...)
> and we'll just start over with all the "smart people who don't make
> mistakes" running the show.
> Except cars won't have windows or air conditioning, maybe brakes.
>
> Online banking, atms, secure banking are all out.
> Health care will be completed with leeches, CAT scans and expensive
> surgeries are out.
> Energy - we won't need it, we'll all be living in tents and living
> off of seed.
> Internet - sorry, shut down, just no capital for it.
>
> What petri dish does this all work in?