I've been trading AAPL options since late 2004. During that time I have followed several Apple centric forums. Not any more. After 8 years I have learned that the overwhelming majority of AAPL followers don't understand the "law of large numbers" (has absolutely nothing to do with future growth rates), the significance of those growth rates and how irrelevant they are to future success. For this reason I have withdrawn from the noise generated in Apple forums. I might add that I filed bankruptcy in 2004, after losing my business of 17 years. After the bankruptcy I had virtually nothing, having to scrape up $500 to open my options trading account. Since then, with AAPL trading being my sole source of income, I have returned to multi-millionaire status and am 100% debt free.