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  • Here's The One Way Tesla Can Survive [View article]
    Specious means misleading, deceptive, false. What is misleading or deceptive or false about not being able to travel the routes from Dallas to Colorado or to Oregon or to Nevado or to Idaho or to Utah now in a Model S?

    And what is misleading, deceptive, or false about having to zig zag your way in 2016?

    Answer: not a damn thing.

    You speak as if you know what you say are facts but they aren't. They are hope and speculation at present. By the time the Model III hits the market, assuming Tesla is still in business, who knows what the density will be.

    "But your arguments are not valid for all drivers, yet you argue as though they are. "

    You are projecting your thoughts on to me. I have given examples of where the density is not sufficient. There are places, depending on your own travel requirements where the Model S will work great.

    When I first got involved with the Tesla threads, I wasn't aware of the shortcomings of the car, honestly. There are shortcomings that you don't face with an ICE. I think it's important that those be brought to light, not hidden, as you would have it.

    I have been on Tesla's side at times, such as with the fires, ask Tippydog, and with the R&D expenditures I am the one who said some should be capitalized rather than expensed.

    But there is clear Tesla bias at times, such as saying that Tesla can go on making more money even as GAAP shows losses, FOREVER. That is categorically false. It's simply mathematically impossible. Then there are those who argue that MOST or ALL R&D should be capitalized. That is categorically false, but if you don't understand why items are expensed or capitalized you won't understand why that statement is so outrageous. Then there was one Tesla bull who argued that sales revenue included sales from Tesla, the parent, to its subsidiaries. On that one I showed the actual FASB consolidation guidelines showing that was false and he still wanted to argue that I was wrong. At times you feel like pulling your hair out or strangling the person. lol

    But I realize that the bears are just as ridiculous sometimes. I think this year and next are going to be very challenging for Tesla. How it all comes out, I honestly don't know. The home battery charging business may prove to be a boom for revenues, or it may turn out to be like Enron's Broadband Division. Skilling said the Broadband Division (EBS) should contribute $20 or $40 (can't remember) to Enron's share price. At first it looked like a great play. But, that's not how it turned out, and Enron committed fraud in recording revenues from the deal before it got off the ground. It makes me wonder if this with Tesla is real or if it's a smoke screen for a struggling company.

    http://bit.ly/1zjURYw

    After seeing what Musk does with non-GAAP, how the SEC had to tell him to quit emphasizing non-GAAP over GAAP, yet he still does, I don't trust the man nor his CFO. I will remind you and other readers of this thread that the investment banks, which were compensated by Enron to handle its equity issuances, were in collusion with the company because of that compensation. So, any share price estimates for Tesla coming from them, I would be wary of.
    Apr 28, 2015. 10:46 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • New studies link rising number of earthquakes with oil and gas drilling [View news story]
    Agreed.
    Apr 28, 2015. 06:53 AM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • New studies link rising number of earthquakes with oil and gas drilling [View news story]
    "you have no data. "

    You are the one without data or evidence.


    " In the new study, researchers led by Cornell geologist Katie Keranen showed how fluid moving outward from the wells is causing earthquakes. [The 10 Biggest Earthquakes in History]

    Wastewater had been pumped into the wells since 2005, but operator New Dominion turned up the volume in 2009, according to records filed with the Oklahoma Corporation Commission, which regulates the oil and gas industry. That rise in water pressure coincides with one of Oklahoma City's earthquake clusters, the researchers said.

    Here’s how the water causes earthquakes:

    Deep below the Earth's surface, the wastewater raises fluid pressure on faults, making it easier for them to slip and undergo an earthquake. The fluid reduces the effect of friction. This link, between injecting wastewater and causing earthquakes, has been known since the 1960s, when a deep injection well at the Rocky Mountain Arsenal near Denver triggered earthquakes.
    Oklahoma earthquakes

    "It's been known for some time that you can make earthquakes at a distance from wells, given enough time, enough fluid and the right setting," Abers said. "What's new is such a big area is affected."

    To prove the link in Oklahoma City, Keranen and her co-authors precisely mapped the location of underground earthquakes and built a model of the subsurface geology based on oil exploration data. Their model shows how fluids migrating outward from the well can increase subsurface fluid pressure on small faults in the region even at a distance, triggering quakes. The pattern of actual earthquakes matches the pattern predicted by the model, the researchers found.

    Unlike most natural earthquakes, the man-made earthquakes are relatively shallow, between 1.2 miles to 3.1 miles (2 to 5 km) below the surface"

    http://bit.ly/1EhFRZW
    Apr 28, 2015. 04:13 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • New studies link rising number of earthquakes with oil and gas drilling [View news story]
    Your opinions are not logical or based on the evidence, Lohengrin. Could it be because you are employed in the oil and gas industry and are in denial?
    Apr 28, 2015. 03:49 AM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • New studies link rising number of earthquakes with oil and gas drilling [View news story]
    @Logengrin,

    "you have no data. "

    The hell I don't.

    "Some 3.3 billion barrels of wastewater were pumped into Oklahoma's disposal wells from 2011 to 2013."

    "Seismologists who have studied the phenomenon of man-made quakes—which they call “induced seismicity”—ascribe them to the massive amounts of oil and gas wastewater being injected deep underground near fault lines. Over time, geologists say, the disposal water changes underground pore pressures, in essence lubricating the fissures between tectonic plates and causing them to slip. “Wastewater injection,” says Bill Ellsworth, a seismologist at the U.S. Geological Survey, “is undoubtedly responsible for the majority of these earthquakes.” On April 21, the state-run Oklahoma Geological Survey (OGS) issued a statement declaring that the oil and gas industry is “very likely” contributing to the huge rise in earthquakes in Oklahoma."

    http://bloom.bg/1DDe57V-

    I'd suggest reading the links so your comments don't appear to be uninformed.

    Btw, aren't you employed in the industry?
    Apr 28, 2015. 03:43 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • New studies link rising number of earthquakes with oil and gas drilling [View news story]
    Lohengrin,

    Your opinion is not backed up by the science. I guess you don't read the links.

    "The earthquakes are primarily occurring within crystalline basement, deeper than most oil and gas operations. However, reactivation of deeper basement faults from water injection/disposal at shallow depths is often observed in cases of triggered seismicity."

    http://bit.ly/1QsE4b4

    The scientists don't believe it to be nonsense. Just the opposite. They don't believe the increased frequency of the quakes is a result of naturally occurring geologic processes.
    Apr 28, 2015. 03:33 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • New studies link rising number of earthquakes with oil and gas drilling [View news story]
    BillRocks,

    I guess you don't read any of the links. IF you had you would know that the rate of quakes has increased dramatically in Oklahoma where the water is being disposed and is increasing in Texas where the water is being disposed as well.

    As a result, the OGS has recently stated:
    " 'It warned residents should be prepared for a 'significant earthquake.' "

    The increased rate of quakes is causing the likelihood of a larger quake to be much more likely, not less likely, as you are arguing. And the frequency of small quakes is causing what is termed "minor property damage", i.e. cracks in ceilings, walls, and brick work. But to a homeowner this is major damage that is not covered by standard homeowners insurance, in Texas anyway.

    The opinion of the scientists is that without the disposal of waste water the frequency of the quakes would be much less, perhaps like it was prior to 2008, and the likelihood of a more significant quake reduced.
    I would suggest reading the links before posting.

    http://reut.rs/1HD7P6g
    Apr 28, 2015. 03:14 AM | 3 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • New studies link rising number of earthquakes with oil and gas drilling [View news story]

    "Yeah pumping a little water into the depth of 4km is nothing compared to tectonic stress and what not. Reminds me of the near perfect correlation between the rise of autism and health food."

    You call 3.3 billion barrels over the last 3 years "a little water"?
    Apr 27, 2015. 05:46 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Here's The One Way Tesla Can Survive [View article]
    "But that's what Tesla calls having it "Covered". LOL."
    They will have it covered next year."

    From Dallas to Co it will be an extra 100 miles and several hours longer. Zig zag. To Oregon it gets even worse. Yep, they got it covered.
    Apr 27, 2015. 04:57 PM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Here's The One Way Tesla Can Survive [View article]
    ""just pointing out things that need improvement or correction,"


    No Bryce. That's not true. What you're doing, intentionally or not, is arguing that a certain type of car CANNOT do something it's already doing, even if not to the level you want it to"

    I am not arguing you can't do long distance travel in a Tesla. I am arguing that the density is not there for a lot of trips, and I've given some examples.

    You don't have the power to decide what I am saying. I do. lol Jeez
    Apr 27, 2015. 12:37 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Here's The One Way Tesla Can Survive [View article]
    " It meets the need for those willing to plan their trips"

    In some cases yes, in some cases no. Trip from Dallas to Colorado or to Oregon, are examples where it is still not doable. And after 2016 will still take hours longer and hundreds of miles further, versus an ICE, because the density won't be there. Iowa is another state will little stations. There needs to be more density.

    That is fact, not emotion. Explain it away as not important. It's your opinion, but the average ICE owner sees through the smoke screen. IT is they you have to convince to buy an EV, not a Tesla enthusiast.
    Apr 27, 2015. 12:24 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • New studies link rising number of earthquakes with oil and gas drilling [View news story]
    @Lohengrin,

    Your opinions are without merit because you reject the evidence. You counter evidenced based research with nothing but an uninformed opinion. Even Oklahoma authorities are no longer stuped in financally backed bias anymore. And Texas is taking note. There needs to be a different way of disposing of the waste water which does not induce earthquakes.
    Apr 27, 2015. 12:13 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • New studies link rising number of earthquakes with oil and gas drilling [View news story]
    Present some data to back up your opinion about the quakes. There is now substantial scientific evidence to support that they are being caused by the disposal of waste water. Where's your "evidence" that it doesn't?
    Apr 27, 2015. 03:38 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • New studies link rising number of earthquakes with oil and gas drilling [View news story]
    I am right wing. I went to Boy's State with Alan Keyes in 1967. Was President of "Young Americans for Freedom" on my college campus. Have voted Republican all my life. This isn't a political issue. It's about personal property damage, and potential human injury or death. That is my agenda. I emailed Mac Thornberry last week about this.

    Obviously you haven't experienced this. I have just once, with no damage I am aware of. That was enough.
    Apr 27, 2015. 03:28 AM | 3 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • New studies link rising number of earthquakes with oil and gas drilling [View news story]
    Lohengrin,

    It's not the fracking that is causing the damage, but the disposal of waste water. Do you call cracks in your ceiling, walls, and brick work minor damage? I don't. How would you respond if this happened to you? It costs thousands of dollars to repair and is not covered under standard house insurance, in Texas anyway.

    People that reject valid scientific evidence are just in denial. That's all I can figure.

    http://cnb.cx/1b5Ekf9

    It will continue until something is done about it. That I am confident of.
    Apr 27, 2015. 03:22 AM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
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