gwenace: SNE is up because of building sale and TV business's prospects. Their new flagship phone is gorgeous, but

gwenace: They are mainly competing with Samsung, for the pie of android market

gwenace: Nok is just pulling back from its high. We need to have patience.

gwenace: Also Sony phones main market is Japan, followed by Europe and US. NOK is playing the China card.

Systembolaget: We need to gain market share :)

Systembolaget: Sony is very popular in Scandinavia; remember SonyEricsson?

gwenace: SonyEricsson no longer exists.

Systembolaget: It does, as Sony only. SonyEricsson logo still there in form of a darker patch on their HQ's facade :)

gwenace: I know what you mean.:)

Erick Lee: true, sony's main market is japan, but if their phone is well-received enough, that could easily change i think, and possibly their phones

Erick Lee: business could eventually become a more important source of revenue than ever before. i'm starting to get nervous about NOK. all their

Systembolaget: I drive right past it on the E22 occasionally, but no longer go in :)

Erick Lee: innovations r already priced in, while there will b many newer more innovative phones coming out in 2013. but im still long nok cuz of china

Erick Lee: im nervous if their next sleeker aluminum phone is just going 2 b the same specs as 920, cuz there will b more powerful alternatives by then

gwenace: I see your point, but I really think Nokia and Sony are not targetting the same market. Sony's phone will likely be premium priced, and

gwenace: they are not going to be launched until at least two months later. A lot of things could change within 2 months for Nokia in the WP market.

gwenace: Huawei may be launching a Windows Phone and that will more likely be a potential threat.

Erick Lee: let's hope nokia does amazingly well in china and india. and with apple probably ready to lose a significant amount of mkt share, that there

Erick Lee: be plenty more market for these companies to steal from :)

DeepValueLover: $SNE and $NOK should enter a joint R&D partnership and share patent royalties.